Sr. Moderator: H&R, Words, SLR
- Nov 3, 2008
- RIP CH ? - 2020
It would help everyone. Products would go down in price. We could start manufacturing things here instead of China again, and we won't have a 25% tax to pay directly to the feds (which they will squander on something totally pointless). You would find a new tier of low-income jobs; almost every American who wants employment could get it, and we would need immigrants to complete jobs that we aren't doing, instead of sending jobs overseas.I respect your opinions CH, I just understand the idea that you think minimum wage should be entirely abolished. Who would that help but the people employing people? That's the oath to creating a wage slave class. Imagine the only place you can get a job is in McDonald's and now you're making so little money it's hopeless. Eben now companies like Walmart actually encourage their employees to go on welfare to be able to support themselves. I think welfare is an important part of a strong, just society, but for those people who, say, got injured and have to not work for a year, so they can still pay their bills. But it's bullshit for Walmart to pass off part of the cost of paying their employees to the state, and ultimately the taxpayer. It's just wrong, when they (who make huge profits) could afford to not put that burden on us. Don't you think that's wrong?
People don't have to work jobs that don't pay well enough. I'm not touting getting rid of social welfare programs; this is something America still needs.
What world do you think I'm personally living in, one where I'm doctor, lawyer, politician, businessman, stock trader? Or do you think my job options are severely limited, kind of what you just described? That's where we already are, man. I'd like to think changes could move us away from where we are now.Imagine the only place you can get a job is in McDonald's and now you're making so little money it's hopeless.
The alternative is the class of people they use for the lowest-rung work will get double hours and no benefits to supplement, work twice as much. Why be angry a corporation enables people to use welfare programs you support? Should someone have to be totally fucking hopeless, jobless, foodless before they get help? Isn't help supposed to be there for anyone/everyone who needs it?companies like Walmart actually encourage their employees to go on welfare to be able to support themselves.
Is this why AOC trashed the Amazon deal? Probably. Do you think businesses should have to do better when you don't regulate or legislate them to? Why? If these business practices were regulatable in a way that could garner bipartisan support then we wouldn't be in this mess. There's also a possibility the legislative branch is way more interested in a 1,000th Trump Report/Investigation instead of solving the problems of poverty (DING DING DING, why Congress has historically abysmally low approval ratings!)it's bullshit for Walmart to pass off part of the cost of paying their employees to the state, and ultimately the taxpayer.
If you over-regulate businesses you have to wonder what impact that has on businesses itself. You have to wonder "How far is too far?", how far would be anti-capitalist, anti-free market, anti-American. There is a "too far", and I can't say we've been there (I am not an expert in this field; we may have been, we may never have been, I care not to speculate on such things). If you try to shift things too much, too quickly, the money will stop circulating and the economy will collapse again.
No, and I don't want to own a walmart, work for one or shop at one (though I have in the past), and that doesn't make me need or want one either. Sometimes it's better to set a new pace in life than to just participate or expect a participation prize. Quite frankly demanding things I'm not owed isn't going to change anything anyways, and it makes a lot more sense to work more, harder, and such. You might hear another person chanting "I need my 40 hours": I've given up on a full-time job. You might hear another person demanding a living wage: I know that isn't in the cards for most of us. I'd rather be rational about dealing with reality than wish for things I know are never coming.Don't you think that's wrong?