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VIDEO: Car Speeds Into Crowd Of ICE Protesters Outside Detention Facility

JGrimez

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Someone getting dragged into a garage and beaten by pipe-wielding white supremacists is emotional nonsense?
Say it with me - white supremacist terrorism is bad. Leftwing extremist terrorism is bad too!

Emotional nonsense is repeating those images, while still refusing to admit that ANTIFA instigated a lot of violence that day.
 

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Leftwing extremist terrorism is bad too!
JG I don't think anyone's cheering on for leftist terrorism. Russia, the world's origin of terrorism, started with a far-left cause, I've enumerated this countless times in CEP and no one has challenged me on it. I think we're all on the same page here.

Emotional nonsense is repeating those images
I wasn't aware/hadn't seen it all before and was glad cduggles posted about it.

I don't think anyone was trying to trigger you.
 

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Russia, the world's origin of terrorism
Yeah ok, learn history.
Yes, some people (even in the establishment) are cheering on leftwing terrorism.
Many people (including right here) are ignoring it or deflecting.

There was no dearth of phones and cameras, so prove your point.
*posts Bitchute link*
*link gets ignored*
*asked for evidence again*
 

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I think it’s sometimes all people can think to do, particularly people with little power otherwise.

And if it catches on, it can be an effective tool for change.

But I see your point. 🙂
very true, the collective power of the weak is strong.. when organized. Seems to be the problem(or corporate solution) to mob type rallies like occupy wallstreet(few other recent ones I ca't think of) where the leaders are arrested or the groups are infiltrated to incite violence in otherwise non-violent groups/protest. But you are right, there is a definite power in numbers..
 

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If the protesters had jobs or children then they might view their actions differently.
Many people choose to protest when they don't have work, yet still have jobs. Or they take the day off. Peaceful protest is a fundamental American right. Driving a car into a crowd of protesters is not. Case closed.
 

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Pointing out how protests are annoying and effect people's lives is like pointing at a fire and saying it's hot. Protests are meant to be non-violent methods of getting attention.
 

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So nobody is willing to admit the persistent instigation of violence from leftist sources. Probably because it (along with evidence of the incident) destroys the narrative of "evil far right white supremacist terrorists that want to murder us innocent and tolerant liberals".

Top bad that's a lie and the situation is more nuanced.
 

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Look, I don't support Antifa, or violence of any kinds, regardless of the side. That professor or whatever recently that got exonerated after nailing the dude with a bike lock, that's fucked up and wrong. I don't support that at all. But I'm just saying, driving a car into a crowd of people is never okay. I don't care if you feel threatened, you don't drive a multi-ton machine into a crowd a people, that's fucked up. It's wrong. The only time I would ever drive my car into a crowd of people is if those people were zombies and trying to eat my brain. If you feel menaced, I don't know... back up? Accept that you have to walk past a crowd into work. Or hell, worst case scenario, you can't go to work that day. You have a good excuse. You don't drive into a crowd of people, period.
 

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JG I don't think anyone's cheering on for leftist terrorism. Russia, the world's origin of terrorism, started with a far-left cause, I've enumerated this countless times in CEP and no one has challenged me on it. I think we're all on the same page here.
Move this shit to the conspiracy thread. How in the fuck did you get to this conclusion CH
 

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Maria and Anastasia were said to have crouched up against a wall covering their heads in terror until they were shot down.
The people of Russia decided to murder the Romanov family and the ensuing violence definitely qualifies as the first act of terrorism, ever. You can argue the outcome was positive for more than just the family in question, or you can argue that this isn't "terrorism as we understand it to exist today": very fair. However this is terrorism, this was the world's worst terrorist activity and it didn't take killing thousands of Americans to warp world history for the worse in many fronts: Russia's nuclear testing, Russia's CRJS system, Russia's ecological destruction of their lands, Russia's poor treatment of native peoples, Russia's political silencing/murdering of anyone who isn't Putin. Russia's nuclear submarine meltdown in the Arctic circle. Failed missile test leading to a Russian town being evacuated temporarily (why choose somewhere so close to a border you share with another nation when you are RUSSIA with TONS of land to play around with?), Russia's poisoning of the British agent with uranium in his tea, and so on.

Ivan Plotnikov, history professor at the Maksim Gorky Ural State University, has established that the executioners were Yakov Yurovsky, Grigory P. Nikulin, Mikhail A. Medvedev (Kudrin), Peter Ermakov, Stepan Vaganov, Alexey G. Kabanov (former soldier in the tsar's Life Guards and Chekist assigned to the attic machine gun), Pavel Medvedev, V. N. Netrebin, and Y. M. Tselms. Filipp Goloshchyokin, a close associate of Yakov Sverdlov, being a military commissar of the Uralispolkom in Yekaterinburg, however did not actually participate, and two or three guards refused to take part. Pyotr Voykov was given the specific task of arranging for the disposal of their remains, obtaining 570 litres (150 gal) of gasoline and 180 kilograms (400 lbs) of sulphuric acid, the latter from the Yekaterinburg pharmacy. He was a witness but later claimed to have taken part in the murders, looting belongings from a dead grand duchess. After the killings, he was to declare that "The world will never know what we did with them." Voykov served as Soviet ambassador to Poland in 1924, where he was assassinated by a Russian monarchist in July 1927.
 

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@Captain.Heroin

I feel kind of sketchy here CH. It seems this article I just read, claims a people known as "Khazarian Jews" were the bulk of the Bolsheviks. This "worlds worst terrorist activity" as you put it,well, the buck seems to stop with ethnic Kharazians. I know I have read a good amount about them being the main "type" of jew in Israel now.

It would turn my fuckin world upside down to realize that these guys have a long history of terrorist activity.

Good thing the ADL doesn't moderate here like on youtube ;-)


In the eighth or ninth century of our era, a khakan (or chagan, roughly equivalent to tribal chief or primitive king) of the Khazars wanted a religion for his pagan people. Partly, perhaps, because of incipient tension between Christians and the adherents of the new Mohammedan faith (Mohammed died in 632,) and partly because of fear of becoming subject to the power of the Byzantine emperor or the Islamic caliph (Ancient Russia, p.291), he adopted a form of the Jewish religion at a date generally placed at c. 741 A.D., but believed by Vernadsky to be as late as 865. According to the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia (Vol. VI, pp. 375-377), this chieftain, probable Bulan, “called upon the representatives of Judaism, Christianity and Mohammedanism to expound their doctrines before him. This discussion convinced him that the Jewish faith was the most preferable, and he decided to embrace it. Thereupon he and about 4,000 Khazars were circumcised; it was only by degrees that the Jewish teachings gained a foothold among the population.”
Relations between Slavs and the Judaized Khazars in their midst were never happy. The reasons were not racial — for the Slavs had absorbed many minorities — but were ideological. The rabbis sent for by Khakan Obadiah were educated in and were zealots for the Babylonian Talmud, which after long labors by many hands had been completed on December 2, 499. In the thousands of synagogues which were built in the Khazar khanate, the imported rabbis and their successors were in complete control of the political, social, and religious thought of their people. So significant was the Babylonian Talmud as the principal cause of Khazar resistance to Russian efforts to end their political and religious separatism, and so significant also are the modern sequels, including those in the United States, that an extensive quotation on the subject from the great History of the Jews, by Professor H. Graetz (Vol. II, 1893, pp. 631 ff.) is here presented:
As time passed, it came about that these Khazar people of mixed non-Russian stock, who hated the Russians and lived under Babylonian Talmudic law, became known in the western world, from their place of residence and their legal-religious code, as Russian Jews.
Under the Romanovs of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, there was no change in attitude toward the Judaized Khazars, who scorned Russian civilization and stubbornly refused to enter the fold of Christianity. “Peter the Great [reign, 1682-1725] spoke of the Jews as ‘rogues and cheats’ ” (Popular History of the Jews, by H. Graetz, New York, The Jordan Publishing Co., 1919, 1935, Vol. VI by Max Raisin, p. 89). “Elizabeth [reign, 1741-1762] expressed her attitude in the sentence: ‘From the enemies of Christ, I desire neither gain nor profit’ ” (Univ. Jew. Encyc., Vol. I, p. 384).
The reigns of the nineteenth century Czars showed a fluctuation of attitudes toward the Jewish “state within a state” (The Haskalah Movement, p. 43).
The reigns of the nineteenth century Czars showed a fluctuation of attitudes toward the Jewish “state within a state” (The Haskalah Movement, p. 43). In general, Nicholas I had been less lenient than Alexander I toward his intractable non-Christian minority, but he took an immediate interest in the movement endorsed by the highly respected Levinsohn, for he saw in “Haskalah” an opportunity for possibly breaking down the separatism of the Judaized Khazars. He put in charge of the project of opening hundreds of Jewish schools a brilliant young Jew, Dr. Max Lilienthal. From its beginning, however, the Haskalah movement had had bitter opposition among Jews in Germany – many of whom, including the famous Moses Hess (Graetz-Raisin, op.cit., Vol. VI,. PP. 371 ff.), became ardent Jewish nationalists – and in Russia the opposition was fanatical. “The great mass of Russian Jewry was devoid of all secular learning, steeped in fanaticism, and given to superstitious practices” (Graetz-Raisin, op. cit., Vol. VI, P. 112), and their leaders, for the most part, had no notion of tolerating a project which would lessen or destroy their control
Educated, and free at last to organize nationally, the Judaized Khazars in Russia became not merely an indigestible mass in the body politic, the characteristic “state within a state, ” but a formidable anti-government force. With non-Jews of nihilistic or other radical tendencies – the so-called Russian “intelligentsia”- they sought in the first instance to further their aims by assassinations (Modern European History, by Charles Downer Hazen, Holt, New York, p. 565). Alexander tried to abate the hostility of the “terrorists” by granting more and more concessions, but on the day the last concessions were announced “a bomb was thrown at his carriage. The carriage was wrecked, and many of his escorts were injured. Alexander escaped as by a miracle, but a second bomb exploded near him as he was going to aid the injured. He was horribly mangled, and died within an hour. Thus perished the Czar Liberator” (Modern European History, p. 567).

Various elements of this restless aggressive minority nurtured the amazing quadruple aims of international Communism, the seizure of power in Russia, Zionism, and continued migration to America, with a fixed purpose to retain their nationalistic separatism. In many instances, the same individuals were participants in two or more phases of the four-fold objective.

Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania, the Ukraine (A History of the Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the Russian Bolshevik party:
The name Bolsheviki means majority (from Russian bolshe, the larger) and commemorates the fact that at the Brussels-London conference of the party in late 1902 and early 1903, the violent Marxist program of Lenin was adopted by a 25 to 23 vote, the less violent minority or “Mensheviki” Marxists fading finally from the picture after Stalin’s triumph in October, 1917. It has been also stated that the term Bolshevik refers to the “larger” or more violent program of the majority faction. After (1918) the Bolsheviki called their organization the Communist Party.
The Marxian program of drastic controls, so repugnant to the free western mind, was no obstacle to the acceptance of Marxism by many Khazar Jews, for the Babylonian Talmud under which they lived had taught then to accept authoritarian dictation on everything from their immorality to their trade practices. Since the Talmud contained more than 12,000 controls, the regimentation of Marxism was acceptable — provided the Khazar politician, like the Talmudic rabbi, exercised the power of the dictatorship.
At this moment Lenin appeared on the scene, after an absence of nine years (Encyc. Brit., Vol. XIII, p. 912). The Germans, not realizing that he would be anything more than a trouble-maker for their World War I enemy, Russia, passed him and his party (exact number disputed — about 200?) in a sealed train from Switzerland to the Russian border. In Lenin’s sealed train, “Out of a list of 165 names published, 23 are Russian, 3 Georgian, 4 Armenian, 1 German, and 128 Jewish” (The Surrender of an Empire, Nesta H. Webster, Boswell Printing and Publishing Company, Ltd., 10 Essex St., London, W.C.2, 1931, p. 77). “At about the same time, Trotsky arrived from the United States, followed by over 300 Jews from the East End of New York and joined up with the Bolshevik Party” (op. cit., p. 73).
Thus under Lenin, whose birth-name was Ulianov and whose racial antecedents are uncertain, and under Leon Trotsky, a Jew, whose birth -name was Bronstein, a small number of highly trained Jews from abroad, along with Russian Judaized Khazars and non-Jewish captives to the Marxian ideology, were able to make themselves masters of Russia. “Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov — played a conspicuous part in the revolution of November, 1917, which enabled the Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus” (Univ. Jew. Encyc., Vol. IX, p.668). Here and there in the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however, are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. “The White Armies which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as common enemies” (Univ. Jew Encyc., Vol. I, p. 336).
According to the data furnished by the Soviet press, out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State. . . there were in 1918-1919, 17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Letts, 15 Germans, 1 Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 3 Poles, 3 Finns, 1 Karaim, 457 Jews.
 

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Neuroendocrine dysregulation: altered signalling of peptides that facilitate communication between the gut, brain and adipose tissue, such as ghrelin, leptin, neuropeptide Y and orexin, may contribute to the pathogenesis of anorexia nervosa by disrupting regulation of hunger and satiety.
Not surprised here in the slightest.
 

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Founded in Russia in 1878, Narodnaya Volya (Народная Воля in Russian; People's Will in English) was a revolutionary anarchist group inspired by Sergei Nechayev and by "propaganda by the deed" theorist Pisacane. The group developed ideas—such as targeted killing of the "leaders of oppression"—that would become the hallmark of subsequent violence by small non-state groups, and they were convinced that the developing technologies of the age—such as the invention of dynamite, which they were the first anarchist group to make widespread use of—enabled them to strike directly and with discrimination. Attempting to spark a popular revolt against Russian Tsardom, the group killed prominent political figures by gun and bomb, and on March 13, 1881, assassinated Russia's Tsar Alexander II. The assassination, by a bomb that also killed the Tsar's attacker, Ignacy Hryniewiecki, failed to spark the expected revolution, and an ensuing crackdown brought the group to an end.
Political assassinations continued, resulting in the assassinations of King Umberto I of Italy, killed in July 1900 and US President William McKinley in September 1901. Political violence became especially widespread in Imperial Russia, and several ministers were killed in the opening years of the 20th century. The highest-ranking was prime minister Pyotr Stolypin, killed in 1911 by Dmitry Bogrov, a spy for the secret police in several anarchist, socialist and other revolutionary groups.
Chechen separatists, led by Shamil Basayev, carried out several attacks on Russian targets between 1994 and 2006. In the June 1995 Budyonnovsk hospital hostage crisis, Basayev-led separatists took over 1,000 civilians hostage in a hospital in the southern Russian city of Budyonnovsk. When Russian special forces attempted to free the hostages, 105 civilians and 25 Russian troops were killed
Russian Spetsnaz forces pumped an unknown chemical agent (thought to be fentanyl, 3-methylfentanyl), into the building's ventilation system and raided it. Officially, 39 of the attackers were killed by Russian forces, along with at least 129 and possibly many more of the hostages (including nine foreigners). All but a few of the hostages who died were killed by the gas pumped into the theatre, and many condemned the use of the gas as heavy handed. Roughly, 170 people died in all.
 

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founding date | attacks ceased in...
1878 1883

Bombings, assassinations of Tsar Alexander II in 1881.

Not to mention the Chechnya separatists in 1994 that I'm sure more people are familiar with.
 

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Yeah communism/bolshevism/marxism has a decidedly jewish origin. Whether these are the infamous "Khazarian Jews" is an interesting discussion thread. Too bad that it will soon be illegal to discuss this (DeSantis recently signed an anti-free speech bill in Israel - more to come).

But I'm just saying, driving a car into a crowd of people is never okay. I don't care if you feel threatened, you don't drive a multi-ton machine into a crowd a people, that's fucked up. It's wrong. The only time I would ever drive my car into a crowd of people is if those people were zombies and trying to eat my brain. If you feel menaced, I don't know... back up?
Of course it's not OK. Nobody rational is excusing this guy's behavior. Or even saying that he wasn't a shit person. The issue is the authorities, bolstered by an important and deceptive media narrative, lying about the details of the case in order to push a political agenda. They're saying his intent was to murder people but the evidence doesn't show that. Still obviously he should be punished, possibly with vehicular manslaughter or a lesser charge than premeditated murder. And also it's time to crack down and honestly recognize people instigating violence at political rallies. The instigators are the true culprits - as violence and chaos easily escalates.
 

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^When did taking the high road and not killing people for simply shouting at you become an unobtainable goal for so many? :(
 
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