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They are shielded from what some people think, in the name of political correctness
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I don't really think they are though.

People shield themselves. The MSM (and lots of other industries) also distorts how people really feel about this stuff because it's career suicide. It's also social suicide in many circles.

I remember there were openly trans BL members discussing this stuff a couple (maybe five) years ago. The fact that they left only serves to support what I'm saying. I engaged in discussion with them politely and expressed my opinions about the transgender movement... and the reaction wasn't positive because trans people aren't 100% accustomed to common social attitudes towards bizarre pronouns / puberty blocking / etc.

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We’ve had a couple of BLers openly identify themselves as transsexuals.
The one I’m aware who posted in CEP&S didn’t post more than a few times. It wasn’t pretty. I felt pretty embarrassed. It was awhile ago though.

Why were you embarrassed?
 

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People shield themselves. The MSM (and lots of other industries) also distorts how people really feel about this stuff because it's career suicide. It's also social suicide in many circles.

I remember there were openly trans BL members discussing this stuff a couple (maybe five) years ago. The fact that they left only serves to support what I'm saying. I engaged in discussion with them politely and expressed my opinions about the transgender movement... and the reaction wasn't positive because trans people aren't 100% accustomed to common social attitudes towards bizarre pronouns / puberty blocking / etc.



Why were you embarrassed?
Because, BL does seem particularly transphobic, with moderators using new terms like TiM instead of trans women just to purposefully detract from respecting their feelings
 

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@Zephyn

A couple of mods doesn't make this forum transphobic. I don't know what TiM means and I'd have to see the post in question. Can you link it for me?

I tend to think (for example) that a Christian person doesn't need to call a trans woman she in order to respect her feelings. The Christian also has feelings. Language shouldn't be dictated. The feelings of trans people don't negate the feelings of others.
 

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Why were you embarrassed?
Because the response was (unlike what I would consider this thread) really degrading towards transsexuals. The individual got very angry and left and I remember feeling like I would too. I remember I was quite surprised to see this reaction in the BL community.
 

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What do people think about Canadian Psychologist Jordan Peterson?

I feel very similar to him about the issue of dictating pronouns.

I'm happy to call people who identify as women "she" but I'm not happy being pressured into doing so.

In Canada there are now laws against misgendering people.
 

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It's not a narrative. The numbers show that trans people experience sexual assault and violence at a higher rate than pretty much any other group.
You said "die by murder or suicide." My post addresses the issue of excess mortality by violence only, as it was what you were speaking about. As far as experiencing more violence, including sexual violence, I don't dispute that. It is a sad reality. These things should not happen, as no physical violence or sexual violence should happen, and such cases are, if it is possible, even more inexcusable if the person is targeted just because of their identification or appearance. The attitude that informs such behaviors is rightly called regressive and hateful and has no place in civilized society.

However, when I use the term "narrative," I mean things like the murder rate (not disproportionate) or the suicide rate (not affected by "transition") to political ends. There is a lot of that going around. Trans-identified people deserve a lot of sympathy for a lot of things but attempting to manufacture it is an abuse of the very considerable goodwill that has built up towards them of late and can only wind up coming back to bite them in the end.
And with the increased visibility, these numbers are increasing.
Do you mean numbers in the aggregate or per capita of visible trans-identified people? The former would be self-evident, the latter would be interesting to know, and news to me. I'd be genuinely interested to hear about it.
Maybe it's more acceptable among a certain group of people, but it's really not acceptable overall.
Probably the best survey on the subject shows very dramatic shifts in opinion among Millenials and Zoomers. As for what is "acceptable overall" that's a subjective statement, but I'd agree that certainly the issue of children is controversial and adult trans issues remain controversial in society, especially "hot button" issues like bathrooms and sports. But really, let's be serious about what we are talking about, and I'm going to deliberately refer to these things in an unflattering way: giving cross-sex hormones to confused young people; and letting natal males, some with genitalia intact, use the women's bathroom.

Whatever your attitude towards these things, consider asking anyone about them 5, 10, 20 years ago. You can bet it would've been probably in even cruder terms than those. The fact that there is even a conversation about these issues, let alone a widely accepted positive way of referring to them, at least in the media, viz. "gender affirming care for trans kids" and "using the bathroom corresponding to one's gender", means the needle has moved a lot on trans issues. A lot. And very quickly.
Posts in this thread are only indicative that many, many people have a problem with people being trans.
I haven't read most of the thread so I can't speak to that but I haven't seen a lot of outright hostility. I guess the question becomes what exactly you characterize as "a problem with people being trans." To me, that means hostility to a person because of their characteristics. Opinions on issues do not rise to that level. Many people do not share this opinion with me and believe that expressing critical opinions is "a problem" as described.
Increased visibility of these issues is not necessarily doing many favors for them.
I'd be curious as to what you mean here.
There are as many, if not more, bullies as there are people accepting of it.
"Bullies?" Are we on a schoolyard? What exactly does that mean? That there are as many people outright harassing trans people as they are people who are accepting of them? Come on. That's ridiculous on it's face.
I'm not calling anyone in this thread a bully. More speaking along the lines of jokes you hear working in construction or similar field (constant), or the schoolyard variety.
These have become significantly less socially acceptable. Not to say that people don't come out with crudities like this, but especially among younger people and especially in more liberal, educated environments, trans people are quite rapidly becoming off-limits like gays and racial groups did before them.
While a rich source of information of a certain type, I would not assume that the online transsexual community is representative of the actual diversity of the community. It’s likely that far more vocal and possibly politically active individuals are represented in online communities. The models coming from these data should be viewed with an appropriately skeptical eye.
True, and worth remembering. Although some of the concerns especially about ROGD-related are fairly intimately intertwined with being hyper-online. Nonetheless, I have no illusions that I have an insight into the head of the "average" trans-identified person by reading a lot of reddit (and other such) posts.
Is there any trans BLers here?
We’ve had a couple of BLers openly identify themselves as transsexuals.
The one I’m aware who posted in CEP&S didn’t post more than a few times. It wasn’t pretty. I felt pretty embarrassed. It was awhile ago though.
Was @GoddessLSD-XTC before your time? Interesting and funny person who I wasn't close to but who's posts I was nonetheless quite fond of reading. Flamboyant, talked a lot about doing sex work, had very little filter, definitely would be unafraid to participate here vigorously. Apparently logged in sometime last year. (*Well, if you read this, would love to hear your thoughts. I won't presume to guess you're thoughts but I bet you definitely have one or two on how trans issues have progressed since you used to post alot.*)
Because the response was (unlike what I would consider this thread) really degrading towards transsexuals. The individual got very angry and left and I remember feeling like I would too. I remember I was quite surprised to see this reaction in the BL community.
I don't think I know the thread you're referring to. Doesn't really matter. I'm trying to think of the way BL treated LSDXTC and other trans people who I've known to post here over the pretty long time I've been a Bler. There was definitely some edgy banter I can remember but generally we were a pretty accepting lot. But, and this may tie into what @deficiT was saying about visibility, the fact that (certain) trans issues are controversial right now might make someone's identity a bit more salient and people a bit more likely to get into it with them in an aggressive manner. These are salient, emotional issues after all. On both sides. No excuse to attack people on identity grounds and BLers in general as you point out are not generally people to start throwing stones on lifestyle grounds.
Because, BL does seem particularly transphobic, with moderators using new terms like TiM instead of trans women just to purposefully detract from respecting their feelings
First, I'm not a mod. "Bluelight crew" = former mod. Second, I am not going to argue about this. Flat out not going to. Sorry. I'll just say that I pick my words, and I give great thought to picking my words, because they are the best, simplest, most objective descriptors for what I am describing in a world of complex and fluid identities (e.g. I also say "MtF/FtM" elsewhere but only of people who are actually undergoing "transition.") End of story. But I am rather surprised you would honestly believe that I would go to the very significant trouble of writing as much as I wrote here, and with such attention to trying to be objective, and still feel the need to pick words simply to needle people. Not to mention the fact that part of the reason I seek out very exact language is because this is a complex and slippery topic. There is, for example, stuff such as...
I've personally met two people who transitioned and then regretted it and switched back. Thankfully at least one that I know of did not change genitals. But they still thought the entire experience was deeply traumatizing
I am sorry your friends had to go through that. It does indeed seem to be a very traumatic thing (unsurprisingly.) Adding trauma to trauma is the fact that the trans community often seems to reject desisters/detransers. They are considered something of a dirty little secret. I wonder if your friends went through that and how they dealt with it.
In Canada there are now laws against misgendering people.
You're not kidding. This is part of what I've referred to as a regressive and illiberal undercurrent in trans-positive politics. There is not a contentment with being "left alone," but rather a desire to impose certain behaviors and situations on others. This makes trans politics rather different than, say, gay politics were in the 90s-00s.
 
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Because, BL does seem particularly transphobic, with moderators using new terms like TiM instead of trans women just to purposefully detract from respecting their feelings

@Zephyn

A couple of mods doesn't make this forum transphobic. I don't know what TiM means and I'd have to see the post in question. Can you link it for me?

I tend to think (for example) that a Christian person doesn't need to call a trans woman she in order to respect her feelings. The Christian also has feelings. Language shouldn't be dictated. The feelings of trans people don't negate the feelings of others.

TiM = trans identifying (natal) male. It’s a word for people who don’t want to accept that transwomen are ontologically women, but also want to recognise that they are a particular category of person.

I feel that the way it has been used in this thread is respectful. Certainly not hateful. But all the same arguments could have been made using the more generally accepted term ‘transwomen’.

Personally I don’t accept the argument that transwomen are ontonolgically indistinguishable from natal women. I consider them to be a kind of third gender but no less valid than the two ones we commonly understand.

As for pronouns, I think legal enforcement of misgendering is wrong. We should not legislate manners and politeness. Misgendering someone is like cutting someone is like cutting someone off in traffic and giving them the finger for good measure. As we say in Australia, it’s a ‘cunt act’ that reasonable people would do their best to avoid committing.

Accidental slip ups should be forgiven and wilful use of the wrong gender just indicates a person who has no place in polite society and should be ostracised the same way social groups ostracise people committing other unacceptable behaviour.
 

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I use the term heteroflexible not to avoid saying I am bi, in fact I wish I was fully bi and I've met ppl who claimed they "brainwashes" themselves to be bi or gay by forcing themselves to cum to gay porn over and over again. But I say it because I'm open to homosexual encounters in group sex and the extremely rare occasional one on one encounter, but this would require connection on another level and tap more into my sapiosexual side. I'm quite lonely and frankly men are easier, so I do wish I was fully bi.
That is called being bisexual. There is no 'fully' about it, as that is just hair-splitting.
 

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You said "die by murder or suicide." My post addresses the issue of excess mortality by violence only, as it was what you were speaking about. As far as experiencing more violence, including sexual violence, I don't dispute that. It is a sad reality. These things should not happen, as no physical violence or sexual violence should happen, and such cases are, if it is possible, even more inexcusable if the person is targeted just because of their identification or appearance. The attitude that informs such behaviors is rightly called regressive and hateful and has no place in civilized society.

However, when I use the term "narrative," I mean things like the murder rate (not disproportionate) or the suicide rate (not affected by "transition") to political ends. There is a lot of that going around. Trans-identified people deserve a lot of sympathy for a lot of things but attempting to manufacture it is an abuse of the very considerable goodwill that has built up towards them of late and can only wind up coming back to bite them in the end.

Do you mean numbers in the aggregate or per capita of visible trans-identified people? The former would be self-evident, the latter would be interesting to know, and news to me. I'd be genuinely interested to hear about it.

Probably the best survey on the subject shows very dramatic shifts in opinion among Millenials and Zoomers. As for what is "acceptable overall" that's a subjective statement, but I'd agree that certainly the issue of children is controversial and adult trans issues remain controversial in society, especially "hot button" issues like bathrooms and sports. But really, let's be serious about what we are talking about, and I'm going to deliberately refer to these things in an unflattering way: giving cross-sex hormones to confused young people; and letting natal males, some with genitalia intact, use the women's bathroom.

Whatever your attitude towards these things, consider asking anyone about them 5, 10, 20 years ago. You can bet it would've been probably in even cruder terms than those. The fact that there is even a conversation about these issues, let alone a widely accepted positive way of referring to them, at least in the media, viz. "gender affirming care for trans kids" and "using the bathroom corresponding to one's gender", means the needle has moved a lot on trans issues. A lot. And very quickly.

I haven't read most of the thread so I can't speak to that but I haven't seen a lot of outright hostility. I guess the question becomes what exactly you characterize as "a problem with people being trans." To me, that means hostility to a person because of their characteristics. Opinions on issues do not rise to that level. Many people do not share this opinion with me and believe that expressing critical opinions is "a problem" as described.

I'd be curious as to what you mean here.

"Bullies?" Are we on a schoolyard? What exactly does that mean? That there are as many people outright harassing trans people as they are people who are accepting of them? Come on. That's ridiculous on it's face.

These have become significantly less socially acceptable. Not to say that people don't come out with crudities like this, but especially among younger people and especially in more liberal, educated environments, trans people are quite rapidly becoming off-limits like gays and racial groups did before them.

True, and worth remembering. Although some of the concerns especially about ROGD-related are fairly intimately intertwined with being hyper-online. Nonetheless, I have no illusions that I have an insight into the head of the "average" trans-identified person by reading a lot of reddit (and other such) posts.


Was @GoddessLSD-XTC before your time? Interesting and funny person who I wasn't close to but who's posts I was nonetheless quite fond of reading. Flamboyant, talked a lot about doing sex work, had very little filter, definitely would be unafraid to participate here vigorously. Apparently logged in sometime last year. (*Well, if you read this, would love to hear your thoughts. I won't presume to guess you're thoughts but I bet you definitely have one or two on how trans issues have progressed since you used to post alot.*)

I don't think I know the thread you're referring to. Doesn't really matter. I'm trying to think of the way BL treated LSDXTC and other trans people who I've known to post here over the pretty long time I've been a Bler. There was definitely some edgy banter I can remember but generally we were a pretty accepting lot. But, and this may tie into what @deficiT was saying about visibility, the fact that (certain) trans issues are controversial right now might make someone's identity a bit more salient and people a bit more likely to get into it with them in an aggressive manner. These are salient, emotional issues after all. On both sides. No excuse to attack people on identity grounds and BLers in general as you point out are not generally people to start throwing stones on lifestyle grounds.

First, I'm not a mod. "Bluelight crew" = former mod. Second, I am not going to argue about this. Flat out not going to. Sorry. I'll just say that I pick my words, and I give great thought to picking my words, because they are the best, simplest, most objective descriptors for what I am describing in a world of complex and fluid identities (e.g. I also say "MtF/FtM" elsewhere but only of people who are actually undergoing "transition.") End of story. But I am rather surprised you would honestly believe that I would go to the very significant trouble of writing as much as I wrote here, and with such attention to trying to be objective, and still feel the need to pick words simply to needle people. Not to mention the fact that part of the reason I seek out very exact language is because this is a complex and slippery topic. There is, for example, stuff such as...

I am sorry your friends had to go through that. It does indeed seem to be a very traumatic thing (unsurprisingly.) Adding trauma to trauma is the fact that the trans community often seems to reject desisters/detransers. They are considered something of a dirty little secret. I wonder if your friends went through that and how they dealt with it.

You're not kidding. This is part of what I've referred to as a regressive and illiberal undercurrent in trans-positive politics. There is not a contentment with being "left alone," but rather a desire to impose certain behaviors and situations on others. This makes trans politics rather different than, say, gay politics were in the 90s-00s.
I loved GoddessLSD-XTC's writings! She is around, just not as active on bluelight these days.
 
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I haven't read most of the thread so I can't speak to that but I haven't seen a lot of outright hostility. I guess the question becomes what exactly you characterize as "a problem with people being trans." To me, that means hostility to a person because of their characteristics. Opinions on issues do not rise to that level. Many people do not share this opinion with me and believe that expressing critical opinions is "a problem" as described.
Well for one, I'm sure slurs and truly awful stuff has been edited out by the modteam, but in general there is plenty of blowback against 'all this lgbt shit'. You can word something politely while still ultimately drawing unflattering conclusions with your points. Similarly to how people who see themselves as 'color blind' feel they are enlightened, while missing the point about racism entirely. Critical opinions are not inherently problematic, but a lot of times people engage with these topics in bad faith.

I'd be curious as to what you mean here.
There is a push for trans rights, but there is just as much negativity directed towards trans people. This should be self evident.

"Bullies?" Are we on a schoolyard?

Don't be obtuse. You know how immature people are. They make light of this shit constantly and always spin negative yarns about trans people.

These have become significantly less socially acceptable.

Just because famous people get in "trouble" for saying ignorant things, doesn't mean there isn't still wide acceptance of the ignorance pointed at trans people. Especially in certain workplaces and internet communities. Again, this is self evident and I don't know what to say if you don't see it.

I'm not arguing that there hasn't been real progress, just that it comes with plenty of pushback.
 

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Well for one, I'm sure slurs and truly awful stuff has been edited out by the modteam, but in general there is plenty of blowback against 'all this lgbt shit'.

There is a push for trans rights, but there is just as much negativity directed towards trans people. This should be self evident.
Don't be obtuse. You know how immature people are. They make light of this shit constantly and always spin negative yarns about trans people.
While it is true that there is a reasonably strong LGBTQI-phobic contingent amongst our members, in my view this thread has set a high water mark for the sophisticated and sensitive discussion of a very hot-button topic.

In the main, those who don’t buy the transwomen are women argument or even the pronoun protocols have made their points in a way that has acknowledged the humanity of transpeople and been respectful towards them. Same goes for people who have an argument that pathologises some trans people in a medical sense.

I haven’t seen a huge number of reported posts (there have been some) so I don’t feel that the modteam has had to do a great deal to keep things sensible, rational and polite.

In my view, when people like @SKL elevate the debate a lot of the cretins and trolls stay away for fear of looking like the cranks and fools that they are. Credit where credit is due.
 

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While it is true that there is a reasonably strong LGBTQI-phobic contingent amongst our members, in my view this thread has set a high water mark for the sophisticated and sensitive discussion of a very hot-button topic.

In the main, those who don’t buy the transwomen are women argument or even the pronoun protocols have made their points in a way that has acknowledged the humanity of transpeople and been respectful towards them. Same goes for people who have an argument that pathologises some trans people in a medical sense.

I haven’t seen a huge number of reported posts (there have been some) so I don’t feel that the modteam has had to do a great deal to keep things sensible, rational and polite.

In my view, when people like @SKL elevate the debate a lot of the cretins and trolls stay away for fear of looking like the cranks and fools that they are. Credit where credit is due.
For the record, I am speaking generally and not necessarily about this thread.

I do think that a majority of the posts I've seen have had plenty of nuance and been well studied. I don't think @SKL and I ultimately agree on much, but I admire his thoughtful posts, even if I disagree with some of his conclusions.
 

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It would be very boring if we all agreed on everything. And it would be sad if were not sometimes able to change each other’s minds with well-reasoned arguments.
 

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It would be very boring if we all agreed on everything. And it would be sad if were not sometimes able to change each other’s minds with well-reasoned arguments.
It's important to be willing to be flexible with your views and open to learning things, while staying faithful to your beliefs. If that isn't the case then you are simply practicing dogma instead of rational intelligence. We will have no success if we can't rely on each other to teach us new things.
 

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You said "die by murder or suicide." My post addresses the issue of excess mortality by violence only, as it was what you were speaking about. As far as experiencing more violence, including sexual violence, I don't dispute that. It is a sad reality. These things should not happen, as no physical violence or sexual violence should happen, and such cases are, if it is possible, even more inexcusable if the person is targeted just because of their identification or appearance. The attitude that informs such behaviors is rightly called regressive and hateful and has no place in civilized society.

However, when I use the term "narrative," I mean things like the murder rate (not disproportionate) or the suicide rate (not affected by "transition") to political ends. There is a lot of that going around. Trans-identified people deserve a lot of sympathy for a lot of things but attempting to manufacture it is an abuse of the very considerable goodwill that has built up towards them of late and can only wind up coming back to bite them in the end.
I meant to post this in my original reply but forgot. According to this study, the data used to study this type of stuff has some major flaws in accounting for trans people. Something else I pulled outlining some of these flaws:

"These totals
represent only the known victims;
there may very well be countless
other victims of fatal anti-transgender
violence whose deaths we will never
know about because police, the press
or family members have consistently
misidentified them based on their
assigned sex and name at birth. Even
in many of the known cases, local
media reports misgendered the victims
and used their birth names. The local
media also further stigmatized some
of these women by highlighting arrest
records and using mugshots instead of
personal photos.
While awareness about violence
against the transgender community
is improving, there are still major
barriers to data collection and
reporting. Following the passage of
the Matthew Shepard and James
Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention
Act in 2009, the FBI began tracking
bias-motivated crimes based on the
victim’s actual or perceived gender
identity. While this data is incredibly
valuable, it does not paint a complete
picture of hate crimes against LGBT
Americans because the vast majority
of jurisdictions either fail to report
their data or inaccurately report that
they have had no hate crimes in their
jurisdiction."

I mean that one study I linked above seemed to indicate that transgender and cisgender people had an equal chance of being murdered, if you don't factor in the problems I listed above with the data. Also acknowledging that the murder rate for young transgender women of color is absolutely higher.

The number of murders absolutely increased and no one is "manufacturing" grievance.
 

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I don’t feel that the modteam has had to do a great deal
It’s been a great discussion to follow, but it has been a lot of information to process and mod! 🙂

I think there’s a lot of food for thought here, and I think @SKL is correct that the research and selection for funding is highly politicized, and it shouldn’t be. Following the data is obviously my preference. It’s difficult to do in the current climate. I’ve been part of the funding process in a major city, so I have personal experience in this arena.

However, I do have concerns about the iceberg effect, where on the clinical side and online you are looking at quite select populations.

Clinical research is usually based on studying pathology rather than looking at a population as a whole. And those who engage in online communication are self selected. (I’ve expressed my reservations in this regard, but I appreciate the level of debate in the thread.)

I do wish we had openly transsexual individuals who would like to discuss either their experience and/or ideas here. But alas it seems we do not. Yet!
 

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wilful use of the wrong gender just indicates a person who has no place in polite society and should be ostracised the same way social groups ostracise people committing other unacceptable behaviour.

Not sure I agree with you on that one.
 

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Not sure I agree with you on that one.
I would think of a person who repeatedly and deliberately misgenders people in much the same way I think of a man who constantly refers to women as ‘bitches’ or ‘cunts’.

Both such people would just have no place in my sphere of social influence because I’d find being in their company equally distasteful. I think most decent educated Australians would respond similarly. That is, not make a fuss but steer clear of the rudeness or coarseness.

Maybe not the yobs and the yahoos, but certainly anyone brought up decently. It’s just part and parcel of being polite and getting along in the world. It doesn’t mean people need to buy into the whole ideology - as I’ve posted above I certainly don’t.
 

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I would think of a person who repeatedly and deliberately misgenders people in much the same way I think of a man who constantly refers to women as ‘bitches’ or ‘cunts’.

The truth is: it's easier for some people (to be progressive) than it is for others.

If grow up in a shitty area of Johannesburg, you might find it harder than being someone who grows up in Melbourne. Similarly, I think, it's easier for younger generations... It's easier for young people to not be homophobic, racist and sexist.

People who are like 100 years old grew up in a different world.

It's harder for a hardcore Christian to accept transgenderism than it is for people brought up in an atheist family with trans relatives. Most of us exist somewhere between those two points. Everything is a spectrum.

I don't believe in free will, so I disagree (on principal) with blaming people for their actions.

I understand that you're selective about who you want to spend your time with. Everybody's selective.

But, misgendering people is not the same as being proactively abusive.

Don't socialize with people who refuse to misgender people. That's fine.

But, why call them something they are not?

The problem with speech being dictated like this is: it only works in one direction.

The first group tells the second group what to say. The second group has no power in this situation, because they have an unpopular opinion. It's not an uncommon opinion. Just unpopular.

Society is alive. It adapts and it evolves. There are some crazy BL members here who don't believe in order, but most us know that it is a necessary thing. Domestic cats don't like being domesticated, but they don't want to be wild either.

We should have learned from history.

It is dangerous to fuck with the fabric of society.

If you can't see what's wrong with allowing language to be dictated, you aren't looking.

This is an offensive idea, apparently, but (in my opinion) it depends on how well people "pass" as the other gender. If a male friend of mine says they're trans and they don't change their appearance at all, I'm going to have a harder time calling them a woman.

I don't care if people misgender me. I couldn't give a rat's ass.

I spent a lot of time in various states of oblivion and I've spent a fair amount of time breaking down the idea of gender because I deconstructed everything repeatedly until I couldn't put the pieces back together.

When I deconstruct my gender, I'm left mostly without a gender.

Clothes and make-up and the length of hair and whether or not you shave your legs. None of that has to do with the way I perceive gender. People throughout history have expressed gender in different ways across countless cultures and civilizations. This is not gender. It is all superficial and interchangeable. There are deeper more profound differences between men and women that are not superficial or interchangeable.

If you take a lot of acid, you can deconstruct something incorrectly and end up having a distorted perception of it. People get traumatized by bad trips. The transgender movement is society having a bad trip and falsely deconstructing gender.

I understand why people are rejecting their given/dictated gender, but the solution is not to oppose it.

We should discard the idea of gender and just be.

It doesn't matter if a woman is a "woman" or a man is a "man" in the same way that it doesn't matter if a black man is black or a white man is white.

People need to stop focusing on the superficial.
 
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