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Today Tonight - Another great story

beech

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Just watching Today Tonight. Yeah I know I shouldn't be but there isn't much else on. There is a big warning story about the dangers of the evil ecstacy drug that is destroying people's lives. 1 pill and your hooked apparantly. Victims of pills everyone. Drugs bad. Today Tonight good.

I think the greatest line from Anna Coren was "All we can ask is that all young people watch this report before going out new years eve"
closely followed by "ecstacy destroys your brain" (from Anna Woods dad)
with "mmm yes that was our report on the dangers of popping party pills".

Bravo Today Tonight :\



Beech
 
I'm in Melbourne and Today Tonight is on at 6:30 on Channel 7. It was 1st story so guess it was on at about 6:35 or so.
Nothing too unusual from the media, just further scare tactics that we are kinda used to. Did anyone else see it and have a giggle? Just seems they broke out every cliche possible like "Another rave another night of drug use and overdoses" then some footage of someone strapped to a trolley being put wheeled towards an ambulance whilst twitching and convulsing.

Its a shame really because this rubbish is pretty effective on parents and uninformed people and really retards some of the great work that people like Johnboy and the Enlighten crew are doing.



Beech
 
just watched it......

my god.... suprise its another anna's story


I wish I could giggle but it shits me that the entire country gets fed shit for dinner every single weekday and they lap it up
 
I can't see the problem with the media covering stories like this, seriously...
Why should the media and community ignore the fact that people CAN overdose from ecstasy, or other drugs? and don't say that ecstasy overdoses never occur, because I witnessed 3-4 already this year... and trust me, they are far from pretty.
I think it's the media's duty to allow parents and kids to know of the possible dangers from ab/using drugs like ecstasy.
They also cover stories on the dangers of Tobacco smoking and drinking alcohol, like they rightfully should.
I'm not anti-drug or anything, but I seriously would think something is wrong if the media completely stopped coverage on the dangers of drug abuse.
 
I would never argue they should not cover drug use/abuse at all. I would however argue that it would be much more beneficial for them and everyone else to cover the stories in an accurate factual manner instead of just trying to scare the shit out of people. History has proven this method doesn't work.
Its really just the same old story of inaccurate reporting. I don't think anyone on this site would argue drug stories be swept under the carpet, quite the contrary I think most on here would like more coverage given provided it was accurate and fair. Nobody learns anything from a few provocative images accompanied by uneducated opinions and/or non factual information.


Beech
 
They have a computer program that automatically runs that story on the last friday before every new years. No, really - I've seen it. Impressive piece of equipment. :)
 
***Taken from today tonight web site www.todaytonight.com.au***

As we prepare to welcome in the New Year, Australians are being urged to remember that there is a dangerous side to party drugs.

Detective Paul Willingham of the New South Wales Drug Squad said one of the many dangers of party drugs was that there was no way of knowing exactly what you are taking.

"You literally don't know what you are getting," Willingham said.

"There's no standards, there's no controls."

He said that it was common for drug dealers to add other ingredients such as caffeine or a veterinary anesthetic like ketamine to ecstasy tablets.

Psychiatrist and head of the Brain and Mind Research Institute, Professor Ian Hickie, said party drugs were harmful substances and can even trigger the onset of mental illness.

"If you care about your brain and if you care about your memory, your concentration, your emotions, your behaviour, being able to function as an adult then avoid these substances at all cost," Hickie said.

"We would give a clear warning, it's dangerous in animals and it's highly likely to cause brain injury in humans."

Tony Wood, whose daughter, Anna, died of an ecstasy overdose 10 years ago when she was just 15, wants Australians to know that party drugs are killers.

"Ecstasy destroys your brain, what it did with Anna, the only organ in Anna's body that was damaged was her brain all her other organs were donated," Tony said.

"Anna stopped breathing in my arms on the staircase of that house, I know she died in my arms."

Anna was the first person known to have died from taking ecstacy in Australia.

"Our life altered from there on and we're still doing this sort of anti-drug campaigning now and I'm trying to warn kids that this stuff is dangerous," Tonysaid.

Despite their hard work, Tony and Angela believe Australia has learnt nothing in the decade since Anna died.

"Ten years ago we knew exactly what we know now nothing has changed," Angela said.

"Well actually it's just got worse, the evidence that we're finding is that the drug situation is far worse with our kids today than it was 10 years ago," Tony said.

Detective Paul Willingham said police recently discovered the country's biggest ecstasy laboratory so far in Riverstone in Sydney's West.

"The main reaction vessel was a thousand litres," Willingham said.

"There were 3,300 litre reaction vessels and there were three pill presses in addition to about 30 kilos of end MDMA that was found."

"Just the drugs there at the time were capable of producing 350,000 tablets so you're looking at a multi-million dollar venture."

Despite the dangers, ecstasy use is not uncommon among young Australians.

Amy*, now 20, said she first took the drug when she was about 17.

"I just had one and it was just a really good feeling," Amy said.

But then she got hooked on ecstasy, taking up to four tablets a day.

She lived with dealers who gave a free and unlimited supply.

"I had long periods of time when I didn't sleep a blink and then the downfall of it was really bad, I'd lay there and just couldn't be bothered doing anything for days," she said.

"I would get involved in really bad stuff… criminal activity… just really causing trouble around the shire where I lived," she said.

"It just wasn't good, stealing..."

After a four day bender with no sleep, Amy checked into rehab and has since managed to stay off drugs.

Amy said getting hooked on ecstasy is a bad mistake.

"It just ruins your life, big time," she said.

Michael Milojkovic has also been affected by drugs.

He has just kicked a five-pill a day habit and warns of the addictive nature of ecstasy.

"It made me feel good, happy, I felt like dancing and it put me in a very good mood," Michael said.

"I used to spend my whole pay cheque in that and other stuff."

"Once you get hooked, it's pretty hard to get off and you shouldn't use it regularly… because it loses its effects, you have to take more and more to get the same effects."
 
I saw it and i was suprised there was no harm reduction what so ever.

Interestingly enough i was at my parents place watching this with my brother - we broth drop ing to say hello.

I had a giggle at the misinformation and dramatisation but eventually i just got angry.

I took my bro out side and had a talk, turns out he had gotten 4 pills. He never had pills before. He had no idea of how many to take.

I can only thank this report for getting me speaking to my bro to clear up its bullshit and actually give some good advice, when i think that he could have DD his first trip I get the shivers.

Additionally: Anna Woods parents, my god. I saw aussie harm reduction try and speak to them on a tv show a few years ago. I remember thinking, with parents like those its no wonder the kids where too scared to try and get help, harsh I know and i do not celebrate any death but come on woods your daughter died of lack of knowledge and responsibility .. but no doubt this has been debated 1000's of times.

Here is the coreners report for Anna and various interviews.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_health5.shtml
 
Diacetylus said:
I can't see the problem with the media covering stories like this, seriously...
Why should the media and community ignore the fact that people CAN overdose from ecstasy, or other drugs?

I'm sure that no one here is advocating that ecstasy is harmless or using it does not come with risks. I think what people are complaining about is how television shows like Today Tonight report on drugs like ecstasy.

If tabloid journalism was still real journalism; the type that looked objectively at both sides of a story and presented a complete picture to the viewer, we'd see just as many stories about people like this.

Instead all we hear about are kids who develop four or five pill-a-day habits. Sorry, but just like the government-sponsored ad campaigns, these stories just don't gel with my picture of reality.

What results is a huge gap between what parents are learning from television and newspapers and what kids are learning from watching their friends, taking the drugs themselves and websites like this.

In that context, how can parents and children possibly speak the same language when it comes to drugs?

Most of us here know about the dangers of ecstasy, but how many people who watch Today Tonight know about the benefits of pill testing? And where are they going to hear about it?
 
idiots :(

reminds me of that old joke:

want another pill? you know anna wood (would) %)

ok, i'll just grab my coat and leave now...
 
I managed to record the story, you can download it below.

Download Here (right click, save as) (12MB)

It would have been nice if they had people from both sides to discuss the topic, but in the usual Today Tonight style they only tell one side of the story.

Anyway it's Today Tonight after all . . . what more can we expect.

-Sp0t
 
I'm sure that no one here is advocating that ecstasy is harmless or using it does not come with risks. I think what people are complaining about is how television shows like Today Tonight report on drugs like ecstasy.

If tabloid journalism was still real journalism; the type that looked objectively at both sides of a story and presented a complete picture to the viewer, we'd see just as many stories about people like this.

Instead all we hear about are kids who develop four or five pill-a-day habits. Sorry, but just like the government-sponsored ad campaigns, these stories just don't gel with my picture of reality.

What results is a huge gap between what parents are learning from television and newspapers and what kids are learning from watching their friends, taking the drugs themselves and websites like this.

In that context, how can parents and children possibly speak the same language when it comes to drugs?

Most of us here know about the dangers of ecstasy, but how many people who watch Today Tonight know about the benefits of pill testing? And where are they going to hear about it?

Actually, I totally agree. But, we all know that Today Tonight is biased in their views on such complex issues, such as drug usage. It is considered a family media show, that is displayed at a time where the kids and their parents are usually sitting in front of the television, sharing their thoughts on the current topic at hand. Could you even begin to imagine the bad coverage Today Tonight would get if they were to glorify recreational drug usage in front of such an audience? Sorry, but so long as channels such as the ever so popular channel 10, 9 and 7 are present, you will come across such sensationalised views when it comes to topics such as drug usage, video games or say... for instance internet porn. The two latter, just as simple examples.
Channels 7, 9 and 10 will always be projected towards the majority... that is, quite simply put... the "family viewers", who, ever since the mid 1920's have always perceived illicit/recreational drug usage as "evil or immoral".

Then, of course... we are blessed with the smaller, more independant channels, such as the almighty channel(s) 2/ABC and SBS. Still, some of their shows can be a little extreme on such issues, but alot less biased and more balanced, for the sake of argument. You will find the journalists and news crews apparoach the issue(s) at hand with alot more "mindfullness" and give us a perspective from both sides.
Of course, these channels are still widely watched by an audience of many different ages, but usually at an hour children (and not whole family) are either outside playing, or snug tightly in bed.
Now most people reading this are probably thinking, "What the fuck is this guy on about! What does this all have to do with the price of fish!?"
But, from the angle the media look at it, this all comes perfectly into play.
I hope I made sense.
 
thanks a heap, Sp0t for those who missed it.

TodayTonight always gets me so fired up, unfortunately my whole family seems to believe that whatever they see on the news is very real and that watching it every day is a healthy thing to be doing.:p
 
I popped a pill about 30mins before the show started and watched it whilst coming up.

I don't know why I did it, but all I can say is that I am now hooked on the drug and will only stop taking it after it's killed me.
 
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