Hi, I wondered if any of you wonderful people could help/advise me. I tried posting this to Reddits Tianeptine forum but was automatically removed right away for some reason.
Firstly a little bit my mental health and addiction/substance abuse history.
For as long as I remember I have suffered with severe social anxiety and depression. When I say severe, I mean it has had a significant and ongoing impact on my life to the point where I have come close to the edge on a number of occasions. This has led to to attempting to cope through substance abuse. I am a recovering alcoholic, 3 rehabs and now 2 years sober. I am also an ex IV heroin and coke addict, have been cross addicted to many other substances (you name it, I've probably done it) have been on and off benzo's for 10 plus years, currently am prescribed Clonazepam 2mg per day (down from 6mg a day 5 years ago) on a reducing dose, use about 4-8 grams of kratom a day and 2-3g's of phenibut.
I used to have a chronic Phenibut addiction (10 years ago) before I was as clued up to it's dangers (worst wd ever btw, if your gonna take phenibut for anxiety, make a plan and stick to it, I can dose as heavily as I am at the moment because I have a tried and tested tapering method which means I get 3 good months and then a month of mild agitation, a small price to pay for me for the benefits i get from it but I would never advise anyone else to do this as if you don't know what you are doing you can end up in deep trouble very quickly!)
Anyway, back to the reason for my post. After doing an awful lot of reading up on the subject and taking into account the many anecdotal reports on here and other forums as to Tianeptines efficacy around elevating mood and relieving anxiety and with a healthy regard for it's addictive properties I decided to bite the bullet and ordered a gram of Tia Sulfate from a company (I won't name yet as I haven't spoken with them) that delivers from the UK. I received it, fab service and I was honestly quite excited to try this novel compound. After an allergy test I started with the suggested dose of 50mg using the microscoop included (empty stomach apart from coffee, phenibut, .5 clonazepam and 1-2g of Kratom) waited two hours, nothing. So i upped my dose to 100mg, again waited 2 hours nothing, maybe a slight placebo effect, so I did something quite irresposible and took another 300mg, thats nearly half a g and half my tub, by the evening there may have been some effect (smoked 2 joints also) felt a bit tired but no pronounced effects like other users have reported.
This morning (next day) I decided to try again and dosed 150mg on an empty stomach and only had 1g of phenibut and a cup of coffee. Took the dog out thinking I will certainly be able to feel it kicking in if i'm out and about having to interact with other humans, still little to no effect. ROA - I have been just putting the powder on my tongue and washing it down with water. At this point i'm pretty dissappointed and would like to know if in any one with significant experience with Tia could advise me as to whether I am just expecting too much from this or did I maybe just buy a bunk batch. I was hoping for something to give me a lift and maybe a bit of fun and relief for a day or two now and then, Something in my arsenal against this shitty disease.
I am well versed in addiction and after many years I absolutely know where my limits are and am very careful with what I do, when I do it and how I do it so although I appreciate the concern please no lectures on the dangers of addiction, I know Tia is not something to be taken lightly.
Many thanks, Blue
Firstly a little bit my mental health and addiction/substance abuse history.
For as long as I remember I have suffered with severe social anxiety and depression. When I say severe, I mean it has had a significant and ongoing impact on my life to the point where I have come close to the edge on a number of occasions. This has led to to attempting to cope through substance abuse. I am a recovering alcoholic, 3 rehabs and now 2 years sober. I am also an ex IV heroin and coke addict, have been cross addicted to many other substances (you name it, I've probably done it) have been on and off benzo's for 10 plus years, currently am prescribed Clonazepam 2mg per day (down from 6mg a day 5 years ago) on a reducing dose, use about 4-8 grams of kratom a day and 2-3g's of phenibut.
I used to have a chronic Phenibut addiction (10 years ago) before I was as clued up to it's dangers (worst wd ever btw, if your gonna take phenibut for anxiety, make a plan and stick to it, I can dose as heavily as I am at the moment because I have a tried and tested tapering method which means I get 3 good months and then a month of mild agitation, a small price to pay for me for the benefits i get from it but I would never advise anyone else to do this as if you don't know what you are doing you can end up in deep trouble very quickly!)
Anyway, back to the reason for my post. After doing an awful lot of reading up on the subject and taking into account the many anecdotal reports on here and other forums as to Tianeptines efficacy around elevating mood and relieving anxiety and with a healthy regard for it's addictive properties I decided to bite the bullet and ordered a gram of Tia Sulfate from a company (I won't name yet as I haven't spoken with them) that delivers from the UK. I received it, fab service and I was honestly quite excited to try this novel compound. After an allergy test I started with the suggested dose of 50mg using the microscoop included (empty stomach apart from coffee, phenibut, .5 clonazepam and 1-2g of Kratom) waited two hours, nothing. So i upped my dose to 100mg, again waited 2 hours nothing, maybe a slight placebo effect, so I did something quite irresposible and took another 300mg, thats nearly half a g and half my tub, by the evening there may have been some effect (smoked 2 joints also) felt a bit tired but no pronounced effects like other users have reported.
This morning (next day) I decided to try again and dosed 150mg on an empty stomach and only had 1g of phenibut and a cup of coffee. Took the dog out thinking I will certainly be able to feel it kicking in if i'm out and about having to interact with other humans, still little to no effect. ROA - I have been just putting the powder on my tongue and washing it down with water. At this point i'm pretty dissappointed and would like to know if in any one with significant experience with Tia could advise me as to whether I am just expecting too much from this or did I maybe just buy a bunk batch. I was hoping for something to give me a lift and maybe a bit of fun and relief for a day or two now and then, Something in my arsenal against this shitty disease.
I am well versed in addiction and after many years I absolutely know where my limits are and am very careful with what I do, when I do it and how I do it so although I appreciate the concern please no lectures on the dangers of addiction, I know Tia is not something to be taken lightly.
Many thanks, Blue