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The Small & Handy MIPLA (Methylisopropyllysergamide) Thread

mescaphysicality94

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iupac = (8β)-N-Isopropyl-N,6-dimethyl-9,10-didehydroergoline-8-carboxamide

The production of this compound was hinted at by a very reputable source. There is next to nothing on this compound that I can find on the web, besides a single erowid article. If anyone has any useful information on this one I would love to hear it!

I also think it is pretty neat this thread turned into a Small & Handy
 
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I never heard of that one but the substitutions make sense to me in a way. seems to be similarily bulky compared to N,N-diethyl (LSD).
 

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Oh MIPLA! I didn't expect this would see the light of day, thought it would be PRO-LAD next for sure. MIPLA does seem like one of the more promising lysergemides. It will be interesting to see how this substitution affects the effects.
 

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Oh MIPLA! I didn't expect this would see the light of day, thought it would be PRO-LAD next for sure. MIPLA does seem like one of the more promising lysergemides. It will be interesting to see how this substitution affects the effects.
They said they are dropping pro-lad in about 6 months, not sure if there is a set release on this one.
 

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Oh MIPLA! I didn't expect this would see the light of day, thought it would be PRO-LAD next for sure. MIPLA does seem like one of the more promising lysergemides. It will be interesting to see how this substitution affects the effects.
Also saying affects the effects is fun.
 

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I hope they wait.
I kinda do as well, as much as it pains me to imagine some sort of ban is immenent. They also addressed LSZ, saying the synth was difficult and they were not going to persue it. Not that I cared for it, but it is worth noting. I am still however interesed in what this particular compound is all about. From what I read it is somewhat stimulating and not as "balls to the walls" as some of the other lysergimides. Looking for more info, the structure is very interestimg to say the least.
 

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I know a guy who've tried MIPLA once (he got it from a non-RC lab somewere) He said it was like LSD, but different, less potent than LSD obviously. I'll ask him about details next time I see him.

It would be very interesting to try.
 

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Theres a kinda trip report on erowid https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/me...de/methylisopropyl_lysergamide_article1.shtml.

After my third bioassay of methylisopropyl-lysergamide (aka lamid) as a known substance, I now believe it is the same mysterious drug that my friends and I encountered in a small run in the 1990s, which was provided to us as "another sort of acid" by my primary acid dealer. We all also had LSD during the same time, and it was clearly not the same molecule. My dealer called it "the beauty kind," but soon most of us were referring to it as "candy acid." It might be synonymous with the similarly curious "acid lite" that appeared in limited quantities during the late 1990s in England under the name "bliss." I bioassayed candy acid a couple dozen times during those years, and was left both wanting more and wondering what the fuck it had been.

Unlike LSD, lamid does not appear to become fully psychedelic even with increased dosages. Its effects were largely the same with 200 mics as with 100 mics, except for a relatively minor increase in euphoria and stimulation, with a significant increase in body load. Friends in the 1990s attempting to get stronger visual effects by taking far larger doses (well into the low milligrams) generally reported falling asleep. It does not appear capable of ever reaching colorful and geometric levels.

The known material, provided on blotter paper, tasted like some sort of acetate. But otherwise the "taste"--more a feeling than a flavor--was distinctly acid-like. First alerts appeared within 15 minutes, with onset around 40 minutes. There was lots of rushing euphoria, delicious radiant body sensations, altered perception, and a nicely magical glow to the world, but with maybe a tenth as much mental alteration and almost no introspection, as compared to LSD. Nevertheless, the introspection that was there was gentle and clear-minded, compared to the sometimes pushy self-analytical character of acid. Socializing was easy and comfortable, even when a surprise visitor dropped by.

The body load was similar to LSD. Around onset, there was a bit of edginess with some minor cramping, and abdominal discomfort was intermittent throughout the experience. Movement took more effort than normal; but, overall, walking was no problem and enjoyable. Hot tubbing was fine, although I overheated fairly rapidly.

While there were not many visuals, anything showing any movement looked odd and exaggerated. Especially outdoors, everything appeared to be hyper-real, as if there was too much contrast or as if the auto level command in Photoshop had been applied to an overly dark digital photo.

Sex required focus, with minor difficulty maintaining an erection. Tactile senses were elevated, and the erotic/sensuousness aspects were really sweet. It showed less than a three hour peak, and the effects had largely faded by the sixth hour, with only minor residuals for several more hours.

This is a really nice molecule if one can resist viewing it as an "acid substitute." It's a wonderful thing on its own: euphoric, stimulating, and mind altering in an open, expansive way that permits easy contact with other people and one's surroundings. If a person wanted to ingest acid, he or she probably would be disappointed with lamid, consider it boring, or maybe not even like it, since it largely lacks visuals and is missing most of the mental aspects of acid (preserving only around 10% of them), yet it retains many of acid's somatic discomforts, such as the inability to comfortably regulate one's temperature and significant elements of body load.

However, if someone wanted to visit a museum, participate in an interactive public situation, or go out and socialize, lamid could be an ideal molecule. I suspect that it will find a place of great value if judged on its own merits, rather than being thought of as a replacement for LSD.
 

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Really interesting trip report. I'm very curious about this "acid lite" that the reporter claims was circulating in the UK in the late 90s. That's the language a lot of people use to describe AL-LAD (myself included), it would be pretty neat if that was going around back then.

If the report is indeed about MIPLA, it's sounds like this should be a pretty interesting and unique drug.
 

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The "very reputable source" the OP was refering to posted this on uk research :

It's funny how people interpret what one says. I merely told someone I was interested in MIPLA, that doesn't mean it's going to soon be available.
So it doesnt look like MIPLA will come out any time soon especially because of the new blanket ban in the uk
 

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The "very reputable source" the OP was refering to posted this on uk research :



So it doesnt look like MIPLA will come out any time soon especially because of the new blanket ban in the uk
That is why I rephrased what I said. The uk ban isn't effecting anything, though. They are moving, and dropping pro-lad within the next 6 months. While it may not be available for sometime the fact that they are hinting at this being produced with almost nothing out on it is obviously very worth noting.
 

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It could become very popular as a party drug because of it's relatively short duration of 6 hours, and more entactogenic than psychedelic qualities. Shulgin & Nichols wanted to keep it a best kept secret.
 

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It could become very popular as a party drug because of it's relatively short duration of 6 hours, and more entactogenic than psychedelic qualities. Shulgin & Nichols wanted to keep it a best kept secret.
Do elaborate! I would love to hear more about this!
 
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