- Oct 1, 2009
Fatal 2C-E overdose? I don't think I heard about that, do you have a reference? I always thought the 2016 ban was either related to the NBOMes or just global political pressure.Banned in Canada in 2016 due to a fatal 2C-E overdose. We were a hub for the 2c's...cant really complain to much, still got some great compounds up here.
Post in thread 'Pics of your Stash'Can someone kindly link me to this “stash thread?”
Is it specific to psychedelics?
Fatal 2C-E overdose? I don't think I heard about that, do you have a reference? I always thought the 2016 ban was either related to the NBOMes or just global political pressure.
Never tried amt, but i have had mda and it's similar with its visuals, but i haven't gotten. The empathogenic effects from 5-cl-amt yet, but that could be because I'm going through a Benzo withdrawal...Interesting comparison- have you tried aMT and you find 5-cl-aMT more similar to MDA or is it due to it (like aMT) has a mix of empathogenic and hallucinogenic features? I heard someone also compare it to 5-meo-mipt for this reason. But that said I am interested in this one but I do find the original aMT more interesting than either of those two ( though I do llove MDA and 5-meo-mipt)
I worked myself up to 65 slowly, I'll write a report about my experiences with this substance when i sober up . So far I'm feeling pretty good. Listening to techno.@boogi12 I’d be curious about a little more detail of your experiences with this one as there is so little real reporting out there. Did you explore lower doses? I was considering a substantial jump in my dose next time around, since I was just barely threshold on my last dose. So I’m curious as to if you worked your way up to around 65mg, and if so, where you found effects starting to really manifest.
If you’d be so kind, please go a little more in depth of how this substance has treated you. Might it be better suited to combos?
And please do let us know how this 65mg treats you!
I am aware of one of these modifications, specifically on that magical 5-methoxy-position. This is the sterically similar, but metabolically totally dissimilar fluorine analogue, 5-fluoro-alpha-methyltryptamine, or 5-F-a-MT. The fluorine atom is the darling of the manipulators of molecular structure in that it is a form of fake hydrogen. True, as an atomic lump on an aromatic ring it is a lot larger and a lot heavier, but it is a lump that doesn't like to associate with anything else. It's bonding with a ring carbon is the same sort of two-electron bond that the hydrogen atom makes, but it cannot be oxidized off in the same way. So, when a drug has a position of sensitivity to oxidation, and that oxidation is thought to be responsible for some particular pharmacological property, put a fluorine there and you will deny the drug that property. This was discussed in the section on DET where the metabolism attacks a 6-position hydrogen.
And it may play such a role here. When one balances the sort-of stimulant nature of a-MT with the potent psychedelic properties of a,O-DMS, one can ask if the oxidation of the tryptamine system at this 5-position can be of some significance. Tryptamine becomes serotonin by this action. DMT becomes bufotenine by this action. If there is some extension of this to the a-MT world, then the placement of a fluoro group at that position of attack would be interesting. 5-F-a-MT has been made, and it appears to be of reduced activity in man. But it has proven to be an extremely potent monoamineoxidase inhibitor, and strongly influences the brain serotonin levels. The 6-fluoro isomer, 6-F-a-MT, is also effective.