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The Small & Handy 1P-ETH-LAD Thread

roi

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From our lovely AL-LAD, LSZ, 1P-LSD, ETH-LAD creators:

Next week we will be releasing a new product, 1P-ETH-LAD.
Blotters will be 100µg.
 

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Amazing.

It will be really interesting to compare this side by side with ETH-LAD, we might get a more concrete idea of how this propyl group affects the lysergemide than by comparing 1P-LSD to LSD, because there won't be the variability of people comparing to unknown dosages of LSD blotter.

Nonetheless, it might still be difficult to draw any conclusions because of the randomness of tripping.
 

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Any chemistry savy folks out there who can calculate the molar masses of ETH-LAD and 1P-ETH-LAD? It would be nice to know how the potencies of the two should compare.
 

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1P-LSD is just as potent as LSD and I see no reason why this would be any different here.
 

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The propionyl group has some weight to it, so 100µg of LSD has more molecules than 100µg of 1P-LSD. (Same idea with ETH-LAD and 1P-ETH-LAD). Maybe it's marginal.
 

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Wow, I hope it's not too expensive, although this will be a collectors item, price is irrelevant I guess. To me 1P-LSD is a pure marvel, I have no doubts this 1P-ETH-LAD will be as good.
 

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if this hits the uk market im definetly going to get it , although ill probably wait till those who've tried eth-lad compare the effects and if they are identical/ practically the same etc as was the case for a lot of 1p reports and my first hand experience ill be happy to try them. think of the other possibilities 1p-al-lad ,1p-lsa even. although why havent they produced them as 1acetyl, is it easier to make the 1p bond?
 

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I wish this was released after ETH-LAD was banned everywhere. That way they wouldn't got banned together. I guess they are trying to enter the UK market ?
 

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perpetualdawn, i think youre probably on the right track there. isnt the issue with 1p-lsd being banned is that its going to be covered by a huge all inclusive psychoactive compounds ban, so surely this would also be covered by such a ban pretty much eliminating the market? :(
 

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Yeah 1p-LSD was held back so that they could bring it out the day after the LSZ and AL-LAD ban went into effect. I hope this means that they have yet another hidden away for the next wave of bans.
 

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Checking to see if it's first of april.........Nope. :D Novelty factor for this one is just through the roof.

Unfortunately, as I don't really think there's much difference between LSD and 1-P-LSD, I'm hard pressed to think this is going to be much different than ETH-LAD, maybe just a little bit less potent. Great for the british for legality reasons, obviously. But I really don't think this is going to bring any real novel mindstates.

ETH/PRO/AL-LSZ/LSP/LSB would have been more interesting. But what the hell, I'm not complaining :)
 

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Yeah 1p-LSD was held back so that they could bring it out the day after the LSZ and AL-LAD ban went into effect. I hope this means that they have yet another hidden away for the next wave of bans.
There will be no recovery from the next ban as it seeks to completely halt the sale & distribution of ALL RC's from the UK. 1P-Eth-Lad has probably been released because once the "Blanket Ban" sets in it will kill the UK internal market.

1P-Eth-Lad supply will be limited as I doubt there is time to get another synth in even if the producer was able to recoup the high costs of producing the stuff.
 

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i read on ukrc that this has been produced more to prove the 1p theory rather than to work around the law, although it still conveniently does. they also said that it will more than likely be a one time thing and when its gone its gone as its quite expensive to produce so the main uk lysergamide vendor is going to be distrbuting them in 3,5,10 or 25, i also imagine that powder wont be available with this one unfortantly
 

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The propionyl group has some weight to it, so 100µg of LSD has more molecules than 100µg of 1P-LSD. (Same idea with ETH-LAD and 1P-ETH-LAD). Maybe it's marginal.
well, 1P-LSD should be M(LSD) + 32g/mol (molar mass of the propionyl group, minus the hydrogen originally bonded to the nitrogen). so not a big difference, because the total LSD molecule is much bulkier than one propionyl group.

ad "1p-mxe": well it depends on where the 1-position is... if you go by IUPAC, the first position is the carbonyl carbon, but this is not the same as having a substitution on the indole nitrogen in lysergamides.
 

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So could they make a 1p version of anything? I am super happy with 1p-lsd. If they could make 1p-lsz i would shit. Eth-lad i am not a big fan so i am going to skip this one.
 

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if this hits the uk market im definetly going to get it , although ill probably wait till those who've tried eth-lad compare the effects and if they are identical/ practically the same etc as was the case for a lot of 1p reports and my first hand experience ill be happy to try them. think of the other possibilities 1p-al-lad ,1p-lsa even. although why havent they produced them as 1acetyl, is it easier to make the 1p bond?
They made cit with a propynl group because ald-52 had not been tested at the time they commissioned the synthesis. They wanted to go with a tried and proven method. There were not enough reports on ald-52 at that time and there still arnt enough trip reports on It still now
 

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I'm assuming there's not a whole lot of difference to this one assuming from the original ETH just a propionyl was added. Stick with 1P-LSD and Ethyl combo should do me well for a good while :)
 
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