The Methamphetamine Megathread

[rockstar 69]

CCF
Very few people manage to get clean the first time around, I was naive to think that I would, but I don't need to be filling myself up with everything else that I can get my hands on at the same time.

The first? Sorry but please just get yourself out of Bristol, back to your friends and family in Newcastle then you might be able to help your friends that need you.

This thread is complete exageration from the very first post aswell. I've spoken with a few mates in Bristol who take drugs (not because I wan't meth) and the place is not flooded with crystal meth.

 

[neilios]

^^^
Exaggeration in terms of dangers spoken about or just flooding the uk?

I find that the main people so far in this thread saying meth is relatively ok and not more dangerous than other Persians (i.e. don't believe the hype) seem to be from the uk vs. those that do who seem to be from USA / Oz.
I think the fact the uk is not flooded with meth plays a role in this differing perception (you can likely figure out why yourself mr and mrs reader*).

Also no one has even mentioned gadaffi's invention of the microwave job.



*exposure

 

[Silver Nitrate]

It is in the UK though...but you tend to have to go lookin for it.

I went lookin for it after loving 4 years or so of paste/rock/powder sulphates etc.. at first when i found it i thought ide done myself a favour..5 years later i was insane..like chronic psychosis 24/7 for the most part.. but ide never come down coz that just made me wanna kill myself.

It makes crack cocaine seem tame tbh.

(just my personal experiance and opinion like)

peace

 

[Silver Nitrate]

Also, methamphetamine hydrocloride can be eaten and snorted you dont have to smoke the shit... its easier to make in some ways than amphetamine sulphate so alot of UK 'speed/wizz/base' etc.. might be methamphetamine cut down to 2% - 5%...still enough for a rockin night out but comedown and sleep night after.

Its when your getting it pure is the problem..and that goes for any amphetamine..except lavo-amph i think thats fuckin crap but some people love it(lavo-amphetamine is usually the rock stuff and very jittery).

if you get 90%+ amphetamine sulphate you have got yourself an addiction potential right there. I had some pharm grade dex-amphetamine a few months ago had a lil 48 hour lapse and this stuff was 55 quid a gram..the chemist was superb he sold methamph to at £100 a gram said it was very clean...but i only wanted the dex-amphet that does the job like, i had 200mg's and it lasted 3 days..i did throw 2 orange xtc pills in with it on the last day maybe that kept me up abit longer although i used to use MDMA to crash from c.meth.. MDMA is anxiety reducing, everything goes wobbly and the spiders go from being scary to rather cute etc.. and i would fall asleep using MDMA as the sleeper!! since 100 benzo's wassant enough i would have had to comedown from the high... i would never do that unless i litterally couldant get it by any means. ive done half oz of standerd cut sulphate in one night and despite keeping me awake and tweeky i never got anywhere near the methamphet high. ive overdosed on yaba pills to the point i couldant move for pain..like a real bad migraine lasting days..it eventually wore off but i was throwing valium, DHC and morphine at it and none of that stuff made a dent... c.meth is powerfull fuckin stuff, but so is pure standerd amphetamine if you take enough of it.

An injecting user of sulphate is in a simaler position to a c.meth smoker IMO/IME

You cant really smoke the sulphate versions, you migh get a bit if its really pure but its wastefull..methamphetamine can be made as a sulphate and not much of a smoke, its just like real strong amphetamine like..only need half the dose. Methamphetamine hydrocloride is the stuff you can smoke and when vaporised the molicule alters or something anyway the best speed high is DextroMethAmphetamine (desoxyn/methedrine)..in its illegal form its crystal d-meth (ice, tweek, glass, crank, shard, bomb, spank, zip, co-pilot, hate mail, sex in a bag, charge,shoot..call it whatever the fuck you want really lol but in the UK speed is usually amphet sulphate, base is the name givan to stronger stuff although its not really base much of the time but still strong enough to keep you awake 3 days, and glass/ice/crank seems to be the names for methamphetamine in the UK.)

peace

 

[Silver Nitrate]

Im just gonna add, despite the odd lapse which happans about3 times a year, im into my 5th year with no c.meth at all, and minor lapses on dex-amphetamine, or if i cant get dex i'll use whatever putty/paste is about but for the most part i kicked that son of a bitch..first 3 years were pure hell..now im into my 5th..i feel better but it still invades my dreams..just not so often.

im on methadone and benzo's.. and i still drink abit. But i got rid of speed basically through not being able to get the standerd i wanted (either un-cut dex-amphet sulphate or crystal meth to smoke)

Most speed is cut to hell and back but still powerfull enough to satisfy recreational users. addicts though will want something stronger.

peace

 

[rockstar 69]

Exaggeration in terms of dangers spoken about or just flooding the uk?

About it flooding the uk, or bristol even, it might be in some tight circles it hasn't 'flooded' the place.

 

[neilios]

^^^

That's what I mean, it seems to have a slightly mythological status in the uk.

I never came across it or moved close to circles that had it (I am not well connected mind) - therefore it seems amusing to me people in the uk underplaying it's power as a drug...

@ silver nitrate - funny as people I knew that could get rare or well cooked amphetamines were from the land of wales...

 

[OND43X]

here's another post relating to meth but i have not seen this topic mentioned. 'Fyi' the figures posted below i didnt just look up in google, i came up with due to a battle i fought for almost 2 years trying to pass drug tests and still use meth. They are my average and the medical standard together.

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the majority of worksites now test for drugs here in australia, and police 'RBTs' also drug test. i dunno what the go is in the uk in regards to random testing at worksites and police random drug tests but if you guys dont have one or both well i can bet your government and large companies would be looking into it. so anyone in tne uk that does get drug tested randomly (or will in the future) at work i wouldnt suggest switching from amphetamine to methamphetamine as this WILL increase the probability of returning a positive drug test.

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meth lasts longer than amphetamine inside the body/it takes longer for methamphetamine to break down. For a novice user who has had a try it takes about 2 days for meth to get below cut off levels (aust standard) of 300ug/l. 3-4 days for for a regular userwho dabbles in .1-.5 over afew days and a user who regularly dabbles(has been over a long period) will take 5-7days. australian standards for roadside drug tests is meth - 50ug/l. It is a saliva test, the medical standard is 24 hours (i have not had the chance to play around with the testers to give a personal figure).

i read that some people believe meth is being found in 'speed. 'heres some info that will help BL'rs who think their 'speed' may be an impure form of meth.​

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inside the body between 20 - 50% will convert into amphetamine. So buying a basic drug test from the pharmacy will tell you if you did have meth if you test positive for amphetamine and methamphetamine. You snould test positive for amp for upto two days, within 24 hours you must. If you only test positive for methamphetamine that is an indication that is wasnt meth/you tested yourself too many days late. I have tested myself many times and i will always test positive for amp 2 days later​

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easiest way is if you have a mandelin ez tester. Test the powder, good quality meth (without impurities) like 'ice' will make a green change, powdered meth/impurities (what is sold here as speed etc) will go orange. Thats what ur looking for.​

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

- therefore it seems amusing to me people in the uk underplaying it's power as a drug...

They aren't. You're just continually choosing to misquote me.

Not saying its a drug without problems, of course not, but I don't rank it any worse than pv. At least with meth I know why I'm chasing another hit after being awake 3 days.

Don't want to underplay it because I've seen the shadow side of both, but it ain't the devil the hype makes it out to be. Like crack wasn't, like acid wasn't, like dope wasn't.

You're even using my word ('underplay').

There's a difference between harm minimization and satanic imagery. Just say no doesn't work in case you hadn't noticed.

 

[Cornishman]

i must say its alot more dangerous than heroin IME/IMO... and no help for it..no dex-amphetamine pills...when i first presented myself to the drug service for help they didnt know what to do with me...most drug workers dont know anything anyway and are mostly caterd for heroin addicts and methadone. They told me to take responsibilty and basically then said they couldant help me.

mephedrone has left one hell of a gap in the market thats yet to be filled...c.meth will fill it...and its alot worse than drone.

private docs might script dexies but NHS wont. (unless for nacolepsy)

peace

Not true.

The NHS prescribes dexamphetamine for children with ADHD.
Once you hit 18 though, they won't prescribe it anymore (on the NHS). Because for some reason ADHD only exists in children.

 

[neilios]

They aren't. You're just continually choosing to misquote me.



You're even using my word ('underplay').

There's a difference between harm minimization and satanic imagery. Just say no doesn't work in case you hadn't noticed.

Shm - you seem a bit paranoid mate (I do not want to seem patronising, so please don't take it that way - just not sure why you think I was referring to you?)

In the quote you have taken I was referring to people in the uk in general AND this thread, NOT just you - the earth revolves around the sun!

And why on earth do you claim I have also 'used your word' when I wasn't even quoting or referring to you specifically! And also underplay was not a word you invented! It is for everyone to use!!!

Chalwalla - that is my word mind, so dont go stealing it

Also what is all this stuff about just say no???! When has that been mentioned by any one? I am an avid drug user with socialist leanings who believes in freedom of mind!

I did mention that I know recreational users of meth, in fact I would consider myself a recreational user of meth (just planning to stay away from it most of the time). Merely suggesting / opining my views, subjective experiences and what I hope amalgamates to as an objective (or at least close to - nothing can really be objective eh) attitude as possible.

 

[neilios]

An shit, just remembered that! Totally forgot about that film.

Bollocks, thought that was my word (used between a few friends) - seems like you are all free to use it.

 

[Silver Nitrate]

Not true.

The NHS prescribes dexamphetamine for children with ADHD.
Once you hit 18 though, they won't prescribe it anymore (on the NHS). Because for some reason ADHD only exists in children.

They usually go with ritalin/methylphenidate first though... in the USA it seems any bored kid can get on pharm grade amphetamines, there is such a thing as adult ADHD.

Giving kids speed to treat ADD/ADHD is abit daft since alot of them and up on street amphets when there script has stopped...amphetamines and methamphetamines are addictive, ADHD or not... alot of peple that were mis-diagnosed and givan ritalin or dex-amphet end up going into a deep depression when they have the stuff taken away from them as they no longer have ADHD... just a huge amphetamine addiction.

Getting amphetamine out of the NHS is bloody hard work..i only know one place online that does dex-amphet and adderal. Its really quite difficult to find pharm grade amphets...and the NHS wont script an addict, despite it being a huge help for an addict ready to stop..but they expected to stop and feel like they wanna die for at least 3 years...they should be givan dex-amphet or even just ritalin would help

Drug help is pre-dominantly for heroin users that inject... i went to a service as a poly-drug user on dihydrocodine, morphine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, bottle of vodka day, and loads of benzo's...they said they couldant help me as i was too chaotic..so just sent me away with fuck all. I had to quit the crytsal meth and the amphetamine paste by myself which when you havant got a source for it is posible... but horrible place to be, i overdosed(on pourpose) 7 times in the first 3 years off speed.. none of them worked unfortunaly(i dont like life very much, since my dopamine seratonin and GABA pathways are fucked..along with some damage to the liver.)

i finally got a script when my usage was down to benzo and morpine..i kept having seizures coming off the benzo;s and booze too fast..not getting good enough tapers etc.. got to the point that i was fitting alot and the consultant at the hospital orderd my GP to give me a diazepam reduction..it was 18months long and i completed it...stayed off benzo's for about 4 and a half months and then slowly got back into them.. now im doing about 100 blue valium a week and lataly stared drinking more again. Alli really wanna do is bask in a vat of methadone..like shed loads of it but i only got one source and it aint exactly cheap.. i get through at least 300mls methadone over a weekend, on top of my 70mls scripted amount. they dont script me any benzos at the moment they got a "do it yourself" attitude round my way... basically if you aint on heroin or morphine they dont give you any help..if your on heroin or morphine you get subutex or methadone..i hated subutex, switched to methadone(which took 6 months as i was lied to by my drug service, they said i could switch to methadone if i didnt like subutex but turned out to be more lies..took 6months to change from subz to methadone)

Methadone stops withdrawel and if a double dose feel some opaite effect, i have to tripple my dose to get any kind of high off the stuff. i wish they would have scripted me morphine, or let me have all my weeks methadone picked up once a week..that way i could use less int he week and more on the weekend..have sme control over it like, but nah my bitch of a GP wont let me off dialy supervised..so its 70mls or nothing.. so obvously im taking the 70mls and having to buy extra t get high with. im also got a massive benzo habit..and it all costs... but the drug service in my area dont know the meaning of the word 'harm reduction' ...they rather me go to the street and risk getting mugged, ripped off, buying poison etc.. they would rather me do that than give me a legit script of a benzo.

peace

 

[Silver Nitrate]

@ silver nitrate - funny as people I knew that could get rare or well cooked amphetamines were from the land of wales...

Lots of countryside...perfect for labs, cook it up in a caravan or something way out in the woods. And the welsh just seem to like the stuff lol.

peace

 

[Morpheus74]

I've been high pretty much non-stop for the last 6 months without taking a break. Now I have to clean up for a piss test so I am scared to death of how horrific of an experience it is going to be to find sobriety after all this time. Anybody give me any insight to what I should anticipate this experience?

 

[MuseEPDBluesRepeat]

Well, it’s definitely Meth, I’ve been up 24 hours even with ~ 14mg xanax and lots of alcohol, plus 120mg of oxy to play with. Madness - I’m still lying in bed rushing my tits off, I feel INSANE!!!

Thank god I only got 1 g and soooo many xans..

Was going to put this on Reddit but it’s so user unfriendly!

 

[MuseEPDBluesRepeat]

Fuck, I hope to hell I don't get anywhere near it, MDPV was bad enough, Meth would ruin me but I'm not sure I'd resist the temptation of giving it a go, its taken on a bit of a mythical status in the UK

tried them both now, meth was gorgeous if a bit too more-ish, but PV was straight up EVIL, a truly truly horrible drug