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I dosed at 2000, redosed at 2130 and was able to sleep pretty well at 0300 after dancing quite a bit. I'm usually fairly sensitive to sleep disturbance so it seems it could be a bit shorter.

19:53 - 87mg plugged
20:13 - Feeling hot and first alerts. Anxious that this is too much as there is little info available.
20:24 - I empty my bowels a lot and see the partially dissolved capsule
21:21 - Really very little happening. Regretting losing the cap.
21:22 - 33mg sublingual
22:00 - I don't feel much but a mood lift and some pleasantness. It seems more psychedelic than MDMA-like. There is no drive to socialise - if anything I am quieter than normal. We head out to a club evening.
22:46 - I am not in the zone where I'd like to be for a club so I begin applying ketamine liberally.
23:00 - Lovely
02:00 - It certainly feels like the APDB has worn off a bit but I have still had plenty of energy and inclination to dance all evening.
02:20 - I get home and am quite tired. I have a few balloons before bed and find them even more compulsive than normal, as well as rather intense.
03:00 - I sleep fairly well, stirring occasionally but sleeping nonetheless.
 
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It seems like this stuff has very varying effects on people indeed. I also find it psychedelic. Not too much in terms of visuals but in the mind for me. How would you describe it, Transfom? Definitely more than MDMA anyway, like yourself. But I found it very sociable, crying out for some company but present circumstances meant that I was alone chatting online for company. Lots of empathy. Stimulating also and have mentioned it many times that I can't wait to give this a shot in a club. Not overly euphoric though, a nice warm lasting body feeling. How did music enhancement go in the club? Before the Ket. Yet, we are similar with the sleeping part. Easy enough and a consistent one.
 

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I didn't really feel much of it to be honest. I expect there was some music enhancement but it's not clear what was me getting myself amped up vs. what the drug was doing. There's no doubt that what little I did get was more psychedelic.

Perhaps it will be a little like MDMA in that lower doses are almost sedating and just a bit love-y while larger doses give an insatiable urge to connect with people and lots of energy.
 

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A Mecke, Marquis, Simon A and Simon B reagent test was done on 6-APDB.

After all the tests were done, the marquis and mecke produces positive results for presence of MDxx and after doing the simon reagent, the closest result on the chart for Mecke/Marquis/Simon was to MDA (except instead of the Simon reagent turning slightly blue upon reaction, the reagent changed to a vaguely tinted slight pink). The fact that 6-APDB reacts similarly to MDA is evidence to it's similarity in how it metabolizes in the body.

Therefore, it's likely that the closest "feel" of 6-APDB to another common rolling compound is MDA.
 

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Reagent tests are great but they are not intended to simulate human metabolism and so you definitely cannot draw the conclusion you have from those results.
 

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I forgot to mention before that I had taken some 3-MeO-PCP the night before doing the 6-APDB, and I'm starting to wonder if there's a bad interaction between the two and that's what's been making me feel sick. I did some googling today and apparently it's a bad idea to mix methoxetamine with MDxx or 6-APB, so it's possible that 3-MeO-PCP also shouldn't be mixed with serotonin releasers (even if you take them 18 hours apart like I did). It's also possible that 6-APDB is a lot more potent than 6-APB and I just took too large of a dose. Anyways, it's going to be a long time (if ever) before I put this stuff in body again so maybe some other brave psychonaut can figure these things out.
I'm currently about 4 hours into ~30 mg plugged (19:00ish) on the tail end of roughly 10 mg 3-MeO-PCP around midday. I've not tried 6-APDB before now and was planning to wait till next weekend to try it out as I'd had a few cheeky vapes of AMT earlier in the week. Not a huge fan of AMT personally but I've had this stuff lying around for absolutely ages and I was just a bit too bored one evening and had nout else in at the time but 2-FMA, 2-AI, poppy pods and weed... 2-FMA and 2-AI I only use for productive purposes, poppy pods have lingering noddy effects which affect my performance at work and weed is boring unless coming down from psyches or entactogens.

Anyway, the 3-MeO-PCP put me in the a pleasant but somewhat dis-inhibited mood and I couldn't quite help myself. I'm having a fantastic time though. The initial headspace is more MDMA like than with 6-APB. Definitely more empathy. The come-up is faster too, but like the APB's, doesn't have much of a "rush".

It's has plateau'd into a more 6-APB like psychedelic headspace, but as others have mentioned, there's no real visuals. The colour enhancement is fantastic though, probably better than with 6-APB which I do find somewhat visual.

As for stimulation, I can't quite tell which is more stimulating, 6-APB, or APDB... the stimulation is different, but I can't quite explain it. 6-APB feels stimulating a slightly more 2C kinda way, and 6-APDB in more of an MDMA/amphetamine kind of way yet not rushy.

These difficult to explain differences make it tricky to say which is more euphoric or enjoyable. I'd say 6-APB probably has more straight up euphoria, but with this I keep finding myself getting waves of euphoria from simple things, like cuddling the cat and tasting good food. I have no appetite but eating was still enjoyable. I find eating on 6-APB a chore, with no enhancement of taste that I can tell, or even care about.

As for the possible dangers of using an SRA some time after 3-MeO-PCP, there's probably little to worry about unless you're doing large doses or other things that go against basic common sense. Methoxetamine has been shown to be an effective SRI, with an affinity for the serotonin transporter (Ki=481nM) not much lower than for the NMDA receptor (Ki=259nM). 3-MeO-PCP has a stronger affinity for SERT (Ki=216nM) But MUCH stronger affinity for NMDAR (Ki=20nM). Obviously you should still excercise caution. I'm definitely not going to be re dosing at all.

If I had to choose between 6-APB or APDB, then I think for just chilling at home like I am leaning slightly towards 6-APB. This feels more social... it's bought me out of my BL cave for a start! I rarely visit any more, never mind post. Conclusion: It's early days yet and my dose was quite low. More trials are needed to give an accurate opinion.

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https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/119087/methoxetamine2012.pdf
 
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Intramuscular IM 6-APDB

With 50 mg IM, 30 minutes after a 5 mg IM test dose:

I felt the onset within 8 minutes, and was plateaued within 20. This is the only ROA I've tried with my small sample of this compound. I'd describe the intensity of effects at "plus two" for an empathogen similar to MDMA. I have little tolerance to serotonin releasers, I did, however, use 5-MeO-aMT about a week ago, though that experience was also only at a plus two dose (and it's serotonin releasing capacities seem markedly less than 6-APDB or 5 or 6-APB.
 

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I love 6-APDB, it almost always leaves with a resounding sense of peace i've really only felt from mescaline. The amount of empathy it provides is fairly unreal as well. Not to mention its BL is truly comfortable, sedating at just the right rate making sinking into a comfy recliner for some deep thought far to tempting, though walking is/was thoroughly enjoyable as well! I mainly IM'd it, I simply enjoy the onset much greater than oral and certainly enjoy the reduction of dose as well, for me 50mgs IM was pretty much a full dose though mainly within 30mins i'd usually be caught prepping another 15-45mgs. Very comfortable to accompany other psychedelics in my experience.
 

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I dosed a little too low on 6-APDB (40 mg) this past weekend, never got beyond + and 1/2, and felt extremely sedated and almost motion sick about 6 hours later. I was surprised as 50 mg 6-APB was absolutely flooring. My partner reported the same disappointment at 100 mg.

We had both been sick with a cold/fever taking Robitussin (DXM) and Flonase for a couple days.
 

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I suppose you lost because you bought 6-apb and got something else. You may have also won if you prefer 6-apdb but it's a less reliable substance (see Pagey) than the 6-APB.
 

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^It's expensive for the kind of testing that can tell 6-APDB from 6-APB unless you're a citizen of some place like the Netherlands where the government doesn't deem deriving happiness from chemical means rather than established religions or economy-boosting material wealth acquisition deserving of death by mistaken drug identification. If you were born lucky there's subsidized testing programs.
 

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IME: 6APB: lots of euphoria, residual stimulation on the comedown, sleeping impossible without a benzo, erection impossible.
6APDB: mild euphoria, immense uncomfortable tiredness 5-6 hours after dosing, sleep like a rock as soon as i give in, rock hard erection.

I much preferred 6-APB, although i won't use any serotonin releasing drugs anymore cos' they alwy smess up my mood the following week
 

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IME: 6APB: lots of euphoria, residual stimulation on the comedown, sleeping impossible without a benzo, erection impossible.
6APDB: mild euphoria, immense uncomfortable tiredness 5-6 hours after dosing, sleep like a rock as soon as i give in, rock hard erection.

I much preferred 6-APB, although i won't use any serotonin releasing drugs anymore cos' they alwy smess up my mood the following week
IME the APBs have a much worse emotional crash than MDMA ever has.

My APB to APDB comparison was identical to yours (though cannot comment on boners). I'm glad it wasn't just me; the immense uncomfortable tiredness was totally unexpected based on other trip reports I've seen. The need to lie down was almost like nausea a few hours into APDB. I didn't sleep right away but I lied there having uncomfortable CEVs for an hour or two then fell right asleep.

Has this happened to others as well?
 

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^Definitely has. I find coming down from 6-APDB considerably more exhausting than any powerful stim I've ever come down from. It just feels like your body is giving up completely.
 
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