The Main 6-APDB Thread

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hi there,

it seems like 6-APDB is available now and will become even more widely available in the near future.
i'll receive a sample of this compound soon and i'm wondering if anyone has already sampled it and how it compares to 6-ABP.
i'm also interested on how to positively identify the substance: melting point of the HCL, reagent tests etc.

thanks!
 

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I tried some which was independently confirmed by NMR to be 6-APDB. It seemed remarkably psychedelic and quite pleasant, but did make me surprisingly hot considering the subtle effects. This was at about 40mg insufflated, accounting for some which got blown out when I sneezed!

I would therefore expect higher potency than 6-APB, perhaps less stimulation and more psychedelia.
 

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apart from the hyperthermia this sounds really good.
how's the the comedown? any after effects the next day?
 

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Not at that dose but I would be shocked if it didn't display a comedown similar to MDMA, 6-APB etc
 

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Not at that dose but I would be shocked if it didn't display a comedown similar to MDMA, 6-APB etc
^ This - and it does. Some people get it immediately, and then some get none until after a few uses. (much like MDMA, MDA, or the APB's)

also, from what I've heard APDB is more potent - but no different in effects (aside from slight onset time changes) than 6-APB.
 

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well i have asked for the comedown because that's how 6-ABP is positively different from MDMA and MDA for *ME*.

i love 6-ABP compared to MDMA because of:
* added psychedelia
* no crash, easier comedown, no midweek blues

MDA has the psychedelia MDMA is missing but the side-effect are even worse.

but i always dose 6-ABP lower than most people here (judging from the B&D thread) - 120mg is my maximum and i've never felt the need to go higher.
also i don't need the fake loved-up-ness of MDMA because i have enough love anyway (thank you LSD, mescaline, shrooms, meditation, yoga, pretty women!)

so if 6-ADBP has even more psychedlia and the comedown is as "easy" as 6-ABP it could be a winner for me.
just the hyperthermia is worrying me a bit (thinking of the trouble with 5-API).

anyway, i'll receive my sample soon, will start low (of course!) and report back.
 

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My supplier has just recently added this to it's stocklist, and i've been wondering about whether to order some. This thread hasn't been updated in a while, has anyone got more experience with this compound?
 

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I did 25mg with 10mg 5-MeO-MiPT recently and had a lovely time. It's worth a try IMHO, though I don't know how much value it would have on its own.
 

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Is it that potent, are you that sensitive, or was the synergy that good?
 

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The main course for the evening was always intended to be 5-MeO-MIPT (10mg is a strong dose), with APDB simply there to enhance, particularly the social aspects. Unfortunately it seems I had some tolerance to the psychedelia from a somewhat spur-of-the-moment LSD trip 3 days prior, but the serotonergic effects did feel subtly noticeable.

Unfortunately the combination makes the report of little use for characterising 6-APDB in any meaningful way but it does at least appear that this is a pleasant combination without obvious unpleasant interactions.
 

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Ok, I have some of this stuff. Marquis reagent is a pale reddish-purple, and Mecke is a very dark purplish-black, which is pretty much identical to what I would get with 6-APB. This particular batch I have lacks the industrial-strength cleaner smell I've gotten with some past batches of 6-APB, so hey, that's a plus. ;)

I took an oral dose of 75mg about 5 hours ago, along with 400mg of chelated magnesium in case of jaw gurning. Waited a half hour, then ate a small lunch, knowing I probably won't be hungry for the rest of the day. About a half hour after that, I started to feel it coming on, with waves of hot flashes alternating with nausea. This was pretty unpleasant...I can deal with nausea on its own, but combined with hot flashes I start to freak out, because it reminds me of the one and only time I took mCPP I got really bad hot flashes on the come up and that developed into a full-blown panic attack where I was convinced I had truly poisoned myself. Anyways, this time I took half a unisom to cope, and that made me a little tired but at least it diminished the nausea a bit and staved off the edges of panic I could feel creeping in.

It was another couple of hours before the hot flashes subsided and I relaxed into a fairly decent contented stimulation with mild OEVs and occasional nystagmus. Not getting a whole lot of euphoria though, and I'm not really sure it was worth the rough comeup. At this level I'd say it was about equivalent to 100mg of 6-APB - I would normally do 125-135mg of 6-APB, and I've gone up as high as 145mg. I haven't taken any in almost a year though, or any other in the MDxx family, so I shouldn't have any tolerance built up. I think if I try this again I will split the dose in two and take them an hour apart. I also think I'm getting too old for this stuff anymore (I'm turning 35 in a few months) and maybe it's time to give all of those serotonin receptors in the gut a rest, they've certainly taken a beating over the years. Maybe rectal admin would help with that if I do this again, I don't know. Anyways, that's my report!

Edited to add: It's the next day, and I feel pretty horrible. I barely slept, and had a few bouts of diarrhea during the night and early this morning. I feel dehydrated and overheated and I'm getting brain zaps too. I forgot to mention before that I had taken some 3-MeO-PCP the night before doing the 6-APDB, and I'm starting to wonder if there's a bad interaction between the two and that's what's been making me feel sick. I did some googling today and apparently it's a bad idea to mix methoxetamine with MDxx or 6-APB, so it's possible that 3-MeO-PCP also shouldn't be mixed with serotonin releasers (even if you take them 18 hours apart like I did). It's also possible that 6-APDB is a lot more potent than 6-APB and I just took too large of a dose. Anyways, it's going to be a long time (if ever) before I put this stuff in body again so maybe some other brave psychonaut can figure these things out.
 
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Strange, I have found no real hyperthermia with this. The slight chills and odd heat but just like MDMA really. Nothing too noticeable anyway. Maybe insufflating it does this?
 

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Tested 6-APBD orally at an event for first time to see if it works in a "suitable" setting; it was very successful. Started off with 50mg on an empty stomach (hadn't eaten in 6 hours) and after waiting one hour, some mild effects were felt but not a satisfactory level for "rolling", so another 50mg was taken orally. After waiting another hour for the effects to peak, the total 100mg was very successful. Having tried MDA, MDMA, 6-APB, and 5-APB at various milligram dosages, I had difficultly differentiating the 100mg 6-APDB from ~90mg MDA. 6-APDB had similar qualities such as ease of flowing to music, ease of conversation, disinhibition of social boundaries, jaw clenching, tactile sensations, sexual/loving desires, and increased energy. 6-APDB effects were akin to a mix between 6-APB and MDA but with much milder visual hallucinations/distortions and more focus on the mental energy. Overall, the test was successful and gives it a thumbs up.
 

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^ Nice wee summary there man. Do you think it feels cleaner than 6-apb? With a nicer empathogenic headspace? Also definitely more stimulating for me. Agree on the 50mg it's definitely not full on. Wish I'd gone higher but next time. Think 100mg will be a good shout. Can't wait to try this at a club sometime. Really think it could be a winner on that front.
 

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6-APDB feels clean and is nicely empathogenic, but I personally prefer 6-APB because 6-APB is more psychedelic since I prefer psychedelics to rolls for "empathetic" feelings. 6-APDB felt less stimulating than 6-APB; 100mg 6-APB would have my heart beating around 135-155 (which is high) while the 100mg of 6-APDB was less heart stimulating at an equal dose (around 120-135bpm). It really is a winner as far as a empathogenic amphetamine goes.
 

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well i have asked for the comedown because that's how 6-ABP is positively different from MDMA and MDA for *ME*.

i love 6-ABP compared to MDMA because of:
* added psychedelia
* no crash, easier comedown, no midweek blues

MDA has the psychedelia MDMA is missing but the side-effect are even worse.

but i always dose 6-ABP lower than most people here (judging from the B&D thread) - 120mg is my maximum and i've never felt the need to go higher.
also i don't need the fake loved-up-ness of MDMA because i have enough love anyway (thank you LSD, mescaline, shrooms, meditation, yoga, pretty women!)

so if 6-ADBP has even more psychedlia and the comedown is as "easy" as 6-ABP it could be a winner for me.
just the hyperthermia is worrying me a bit (thinking of the trouble with 5-API).

anyway, i'll receive my sample soon, will start low (of course!) and report back.
Ohhhh gotcha, I somehow managed to think you were referring to the days after, not the immediate comedown.
 

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6-APDB feels clean and is nicely empathogenic, but I personally prefer 6-APB because 6-APB is more psychedelic since I prefer psychedelics to rolls for "empathetic" feelings. 6-APDB felt less stimulating than 6-APB; 100mg 6-APB would have my heart beating around 135-155 (which is high) while the 100mg of 6-APDB was less heart stimulating at an equal dose (around 120-135bpm). It really is a winner as far as a empathogenic amphetamine goes.
That's interesting how you find 6-apb more psychedelic. Haven't really got much from it on that front apart from the tail end with a few shimmers here and there. Always found that it very heavy on the head though. Even at a lower dose I felt that 6-apdb was more psychedelic. No visuals really apart from the brightness but my head had that familiar feel. Kind of similar to a small mushroom dose. Clearer and less fuzzy. I agree that it feels less stimulating on the body but more energy to it in a subtle way. It's there but you don't really realise it. With 6-apb I get really monged out and lazy but was up and chatty last night. Maybe even more so than MDMA. Would easily be up and dancing. Unlike 6-apb, I feel this is not one for solo adventures. Would have loved to have people around. I had no trouble sleeping either which, again, is similar to MDMA for me. Early days but I'd like to agree with your last sentence.
 

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Another attempt at 6-APDB was made today at a 100mg single dose with a friend who took the same amount (and who also has never rolled [he/she has only ever taken amphetamine/adderall, so that friend's perspective was a great help). Setting was a dubstep event/club. It's been a week since the last dose and no amphetamines were taken between that week. Again, similar effects were felt for myself and I danced for two hours straight but I think the friend's report on the experience is more important. The friend was getting:
-Nystagmus (eye shaking)
-Jaw clenching
-Visual trailers/tracers
-Color brightening/color contrast increase
-The friend claimed to have physical orgasms 8 times during the event
-Chattiness
-Mental and physical euphoria (after asking the friend whether we should leave, the friend said "I feel great! I could dance all night even though I know you guys can't")
-Tactile sensations where the friend said "I feel your touch after you touch me" which I deduced as the goosebumps that follow immediately after touching one's skin, as well as becoming extremely overwhelmed with happiness when massaged or rubbing cloth across his/her face)
-Sexual excitability

We both had a fun time and the friend said that he/she definitely would do it again.
As far as 6-APB goes for me, I act "differently", so 100mg MDMA tend to calm or slow me down while 100mg 6-APB has me in an intensely euphoric psychedelic roll for ~12 hours. I like 6-APB better than MDMA so that may be where my bias comes in; 2C-X's are more euphoric to me than MDxx/MDx's, hence another bias towards psychedelics.
From highest favoured "roll" to lowest: 6-APB>6-APDB=MDA>MDMA>5-APB (amphetamine is my favourite "roll" because of the entactogenic/empathogenic feelings I get at higher doses, but it's not commonly considered a roll). For the second time trying 6-APDB, I rank it pretty highly for an entactogen/emphathogen.
 

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MMPA, you seem to have a preference for the more dopaminergic substances, and I believe that they are dopaminergic in decreasing order of intensity in the exact same sequence: amphetamine > 6-APB>6-APDB=MDA>MDMA>5-APB

I find it very interesting however that you prefer the 2C's euphoria over the MDxx, considering that 2C's only slightly affect monoamine levels
 
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