Having exactly the same symptoms + a couple extra, TrailBlazzer. I went through ~400mg in one session 1 1/2 yrs ago and am not quite recovered ever since. You should definitely stay far away from any serotonergics for a long time, imo. What you describe were some early warning signs I ignored a couple trips before things got really bad.
Sorry you have to go through that experience. I've always thought the comedown threads where a little exaggerated having never had what you would describe as a genuine nightmarish comedown but I now know from experience that yes, they are real and they do suck. If you gauged your recovery on a percentage basis what would you say you're currently at right now? Also, have you tried mdma and if so would you're experience confirm it's less forgiving on the brain overall? I know it's subjective but people did express those same concerns when this substance first hit the scene. If you search back earlier in this thread there are warnings to take it easy with this chem.
Unfortunately, I've never had access to mdma and the instances I was told I was sold mdma I've never tested it to see if it was genuine. My run with empathogens mostly consisted of RC's like methylone, 6-apb, etc. Since there have been a recent spike in it's popularity and more common reports of individuals having nasty residual issues with mdma even in cases where used responsibly I'll probably stay away from these types drugs indefinitely.
Both of you went above the extreme limits of dosing. These substances have dosing guidelines for a reason, just like tylenol or any other drug, take too much and you can mess yourself up or kill yourself. This isnt a scare tactic and the people who say they did a gram of 5mapb makes me wonder, if it was real , did you test it on all four tests etc bc ive seen someone go to 800 gs or so and they were hallucinating really bad , brain zaps and really bad off- its sad people dont adhere to dosing guidelines and use too often and thats why mdma was made illegal in the first place in 1986 because of abuse in a dallas nightclub where they were selling it like booze, some guy found out about it, wanted to make a profit and people were misformed and started seeing side effects from doing it every day and every weekend. Point being be responsible and do the recommended dose. Trailblazer sorry about your bd expirience, bc ive been there, my first two times was amazing, looks like you made a wrong chice, like I and many of us did. I recommend taking at least , in my experience a two years, up to four year break , like I did and learning harm prevention, responsibility , which I go into below. Its okay man, I have done some ignorant stuff
example first time try 80-100 mgs wait 3 or more months , try maybe 80 and a 40 redose, wait four months, try mixing it with caffiene,...you get my drift slowly try more advanced things but never ever do them first and you MUSt take long breaks in between
my story fifteen years ago at nineteen I discovered mdma (Daytona beach/nsb Florida pills around tampa ) did it and it was soooo amazong, so magically, so free and loved up. I did it four days later, well the next six months I did it about 25 more nights, some nights I would take a pill, then redose half a pill, some just a pill, but the magic after the third time wore off because I did it so much depleting what mdma words on (mainly serotonin, and dopamine and ne? with some other minor stuff oxytonin, vassopression? ) anways to stay on subject after about pill 10-15 it was still fun, after pill twenty I started getting depressed and felt what I was ding was fake, chasing a high that didnt seem real anymore, I felt utterly bad about myself-low self esteem. -so thurty nights of mdma in six months....I was in a bad place, felt bad, made bad logically decesions. Moving forward, I took a six month break and tried it again, I got a very breif magic feeling, but very short lived. waited two months and tried the same batch I got the breif magic from, and absolutely nothing-zip, zilch, game over....I totally lost the magic from abuse...and thats my story and just too add them side effects are real when people post about them and its no stretching the trith what-so-ever, ive been there-these things change your brain chemistry and I feel it took about 2-2.5 years for my brain to recover about 90 % and another two or so years to fully 100 % , so four to five years about a six month abuse of mdma, just to recover fully, and 2-2.5 years to get most recovered (90 percent)
point of my story if you stay within the recommended dosing and take at least three month breaks, but up to six months, and years, yes, years breaks-esp if you need to , due to abuse--- your brain will balance .itself . Using a onetime dose in normal ranges will change you brain chemistry, not any more than antidepressants, and they are far worse longterm on brain chemistry in my feelinsg than someone who uses empathogens responsibly. Responsible is the word of the day kids