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Update: So I just came back from the hospital after getting out of bed and passing out last night at like 4am, I collapsed and smashed my head against the floor, Luckily my girlfriend was able to call 911.

I was prescribed meclizine for the dizziness, and 10 5mg Percocet from the headwound. I was crying in bed at the hospital because I had done this to myself before...Luckily the vertigo was not bad, I just passed out, like from low blood pressure or something. I just told the doctor I took something that releases a lot of serotonin and I got meclizine. I feel much better.

Take care everyone.


Edit: The stuff I did was a brown/tan powder with gold hairs
 

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First off I'd like to thank Innerpeace for fighting for this molecule. Because when you truly experience it you'll know. Unfortunately I couldn't remember the password for my other account, along with the pass for the email it was for... But as I said before batch/purity is EVERYTHING.

Ignot I've had two batches, one amazing and one that was EXACTLY like what you describe. All eye wiggles, with this sedating shitty high that can't hardly even be called a roll, maybe lasts for an hour or two at the peak then drops but you can still feel the serotonin flowing a bit. The other batch being absolutely amazing, no vaso, peak lasts about 7 hours with the most empathetic loving experience. I've used that batch twice and both times were magical, the second time to facilitate a break up with a girl I'd been with for 7 years. Needless to say this stuff might be better than MDMA for therapeutic sessions.

Now both batches tested as 5-mapb but one was pure while the other obviously was not.

Not sure if I can talk too much on purification here but a friend of a friend decided to purify this impure batch to see if he could obtain something similar to the pure vendor-bought batch he had before. After playing around he found a method involving denatured ethanol and acetone similar to how you would for MDMA. He was able to obtain pure white crystals that reacted exactly the same on reagents as the pure vendor batch, when before it had tested similar but not exactly the same. He took this as a good sign.

Two people who'd tried plenty of the 5-mapb before, including the impure batch before purification said that at 140mg there were points where it was too intense, and that they were up til 6am. Before purification there was no stimulation at all, no way someone would have been up that late, also 140mg dose before purification was probably considered threshold. Still more testing needs to be done, but so far its definitely apparent that the lack of stimulation/euphoria is a result of the residual oils present in the tan/beige powdered 5-MAPB. There was a good amount of thick, dark oil pulled from the crystals that smelled somewhat like sassafras and vanilla, as well as rubber chunks the Chinese didn't care to purify out... These producers could give a fuck about purity or your health.

So once again. Batches are everything, and purity is everything. If you don't have snow white crystalline powder then you don't have the good stuff, no ifs ands or buts. If you want get the good stuff you'll need to purify somewhat like you would MDMA. Sorry if this topic went out of the scope of this discussion, but I hate to see such a beautiful substance get bashed by people who bought it one time from some shady vendor then decided they know everything about it. Vendors are pieces of shit that probably rip you off more than street dealers. Also to say that people who enjoy this substance have never tried real/legit MDMA is just sad too, especially coming from somebody that doesn't even use a test kit...

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I feel like this conversation is going in a circle from months ago...

Seriously, you will not be able to test the purity of your drug without lab equipment that is most likely restricted and regulated, therefore leaving professional lab tests as the only option. If one could do this themselves, its prevalence would be noticed.

5 mapb=5 mapb. Brown/beige/white does NOT mean shit about purity. You could have fluffy white powder that is cut to shit with dangerous adulterants, the same goes with the brown color, OR both colors could have very good purity. But you can't base this off of the color, or please show something that gives evidence or proof of that.

You speak down on people who ordered once from a specific batch, yet you talk UP this substance from just ordering ONCE from a specific batch too. What makes your experience more qualified than others? All are equal, and especially here where people are much better informed by being careful and reporting DANGERS, this helps everyone while ignoring dangers helps no one.

This is not really about talking good or bad about this substance; it's talking about the experience people have had on it, and that just so happens to include the good, as well as the bad. People need to accept that. Telling people what they want to hear (oh, this stuff is only good...srsly) is a great way to fuck up harm reduction. And I guarantee you that this stuff, if none of us posted the dangers we perceive and someone is reading this thread for advice, is going to fuck themselves up from the abuse of this substance. Not everyone, obviously, but eventually someone who will be susceptible to it will. Then we're just ignorant a holes who influenced another person's bad health/death, and idk about you but I certainly don't want to have that kind of impact on anyone.
 

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i had sex for hours upon hours on -mapb , yes i tested mine, 5mapb doesnt not have strong dopamine or ne like mdma. thats the only difference between this and mdma from a chemical release. serotnin release is super strong and thats where the pure empathy comes from

[igbot you and I both passed out. my gf didnt though althugh she didnt get good sleep for days afterwards. I didnt sleep good either. did you get good sleep the days afterwards?

i thought it was the t3 i was taking combned but now since two people passed out (and looks like we done the same batch, tan cystals) its no fluke we both passed out

as for the lyign down feeling, a deep tissue massage and massage with your lover, listening to night on terrance or deep house, or whatever you find , is amazing and sex is oh so amazing and even better than all of this is the openess and communication.

igbot you dont need to roll until you get positive and get a girl. I used to roll with my guy friends and its cool and all, when you have a girl (you truley love, its so much more empathetic. I would rather lay down and communicate than be wake awake and such.

im not saying miing a ne and dopamine relaser doesnt have its place bc I feel it can, if you want to try it . Im just saying first time needs to be done moderate dosed and no higher, and use it alone(meaning no mixing anything) to see how it works.

im glad I used it alone, and glad I flushed the junk. make sure purity is 100% not 99%. that was my mistake this time around-99% doesnt cut it, yes?
 
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i had sex for hours upon hours on -mapb , yes i tested mine, 5mapb doesnt not have strong dopamine or ne like mdma. thats the only difference between this and mdma from a chemical release. serotnin release is super strong and thats where the pure empathy comes from

[igbot you and I both passed out. my gf didnt though althugh she didnt get good sleep for days afterwards. I didnt sleep good either. did you get good sleep the days afterwards?

i thought it was the t3 i was taking combned but now since two people passed out (and looks like we done the same batch, tan cystals) its no fluke we both passed out

as for the lyign down feeling, a deep tissue massage and massage with your lover, listening to night on terrance or deep house, or whatever you find , is amazing and sex is oh so amazing and even better than all of this is the openess and communication.

igbot you dont need to roll until you get positive and get a girl. I used to roll with my guy friends and its cool and all, when you have a girl (you truley love, its so much more empathetic. I would rather lay down and communicate than be wake awake and such.

im not saying miing a ne and dopamine relaser doesnt have its place bc I feel it can, if you want to try it . Im just saying first time needs to be done moderate dosed and no higher, and use it alone(meaning no mixing anything) to see how it works.

im glad I used it alone, and glad I flushed the junk. make sure purity is 100% not 99%. that was my mistake this time around-99% doesnt cut it, yes?

Hell no, I been having crazy nightmares and shit. I'm so glad I flushed the rest of this shit. Straight poison
 

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Hell no, I been having crazy nightmares and shit. I'm so glad I flushed the rest of this shit. Straight poison
ive had some crazy nightmares while mine was going on, shifting between different words and states of mind like it was sooo real-the subconcious and concious mind, not knowing what I doing doing . You passed out and I passed out and thats a fact. we had about the same side effects including PASSING OUT and whoeever sold this stuff claimed it was 99% pure and dodged a question, whenever someone dodges a question and doesnt answer thats enough to say no. in addition 99% wont do, must be 100%

I feel there are others which may come out now that we out about the sides, they are just too scared to say it for fear

If you feel low blood pressure symptoms hypoglycemia, get someone to get you some fast acting carbs like orange juice asap, or if alone, crawl so if you do pass out youll go down easy. I got hypotherma, exteme shivering,like when i work my abs and they shake hard, temp was 96.1, its back to normal now

mine was over in about a seven-eight days-it was bad stuff and im so glad I flushed mine too. Im here to help

Please God can you please make empathogeons like mdma and other related legal so people can truley benefot (not to get high, to use it what it was originally used for, healing tramatic experiences, couples therapy, pure openness to bypass the amygdala part of the brain, that is involved with fear so we can be our best selfs, if we need to
 

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i dropped monday-3 hours sleep, tues-3 hours sleep, wednes- 3 hrs, thures 3 hrs, fri 4 hrs sat 5 hrs , sun 5 hrs give or take, then went back to normal

something caused me to not sleep well. i usually get 8 hours deep sleep. the wearing of immune system and lack of sleep could have effected something. make no mistake the 5mapb I used was unpure stuff
 

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All I know is that I have never done any fucking drug in which the next day the veins on my arm feel CONSTRICTED and tight. This led to me passing out while walking to the bathroom at 4am less than 48 hours after dosing.

You should really dismiss the whole "99% or 100%" It's 5-mapb. and it's not good. The chinese chem labs must be laughing their asses off at night knowing the Westerners are buying this shit like candy from the deep web.

I did not want to listen to the countless pages of people like Plasticity and some other guy claiming all these negative side effects. I paid for it. and for months, maybe even years forum members will be reading about these adverse reactions on this thread and shrugging them off, waiting anxiously for the mail to arrive, because they can't get mdxx. Oh man, god bless you all
 

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All I know is that I have never done any fucking drug in which the next day the veins on my arm feel CONSTRICTED and tight. This led to me passing out while walking to the bathroom at 4am less than 48 hours after dosing.

You should really dismiss the whole "99% or 100%" It's 5-mapb. and it's not good. The chinese chem labs must be laughing their asses off at night knowing the Westerners are buying this shit like candy from the deep web.

I did not want to listen to the countless pages of people like Plasticity and some other guy claiming all these negative side effects. I paid for it. and for months, maybe even years forum members will be reading about these adverse reactions on this thread and shrugging them off, waiting anxiously for the mail to arrive, because they can't get mdxx. Oh man, god bless you all

Ignot. Thank you for commenting in soo much. Glad we are sharing.

were you on any medication at all ssri's antibotic, thyroid medicine, anything?

You and I both had classic symptoms of serotonin syndrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome

Doctor I talked with today, a friend, said start 1/3 or the dose with the stuff and work up from there. so first time for me at 240 lbs would be would be like 30-40 mgs. wait three months or longer and try again maybe at 60 mgs, wait again three months or longer then maybe go to 90..... you get the point..better safe than sorryy

dose according to weight 1 mg per kg of bodyweight

do not take any exotic supplements afterwards at all, nothing no 5-htp, no egcg, no passion flower nothing, a good vitamin only and wait at least a week or even longer to jump back any supplements
 

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Nah, I don't take SSRI. I take adderall daily, but I made sure not to take any that day. I know adderall makes blood thicker or something, whatever.

I had serotonin syndrome back in 2010. I know no one is gonna believe this but I basically took 1 gram of MDMA.,spread out between friday and saturday, spent three days in bed because of vertigo and then went to the hospital.


Maybe I took one or two E pills after that hospital incident between 2010-2015, If I did, I sure as hell don't remember. I know I bought Molly twice, and was ripped off twice.

I did 6-apb back in 2012. Had a horrible comedown. It was even worse than this. But anyway... With things like bk-mdea and the APB series, I don't think I will ever try to ROLL again. It sucks because even though I overdosed in 2010, my favorite memories were in the mid 2000's taking E. I will treat my future experience with MDXX like I treat LSD and other hallucinogens if it comes to me, it comes to me. BUT I WILL not go hunt down a dealer at a EDM festival, and I REFUSE to order from the DeepWeb, and risk my life, career and home
 

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Ignot did you take 5-htp after the roll?

dont do 5-htp after a roll of any serotonin releasing agents. I used to be for it, after using it after 5-mapb I feel I gave myself serotonin syndrome bc two days after i was fine and wasnt untill I took the 5-htp. I could be wrong I think this could have caused the serotonin syndrome , either this or a mao inhibitor in a sleep supplement but ill never take 5-htp after any serotnon releasing agent or any supplement that I dont know whats in it like a moa inhibitor


Ignot I dont have a peice of paper (PHD) however im very smart and you know adderall is related to methamphetamine and most likelt that is what caused your serontin symdrome. how long have you been taking it?

as for taking a gram years ago of mdma over a few days thats just stupid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome

scroll down to interactions- methamphetamine is on there and my guess is anything related to methamphetamine like adderall, ephedrine and even stuff in pre-workouts so take a full week off everything after rolling
 
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ima just go back on anavar and winstrol
dont clog up this thread with that bs.-theres another secton on here for that Have you been trolling me the entire time?

on a serious note your stupid for not testing your 5-mapb, and stupid for doing it in your own words" just to get high" you dont belong doing empathogeons because your mindset is negative and it takes a responsible , positive mental attitude to even remotely think about doing an empathogen.

Can you only post in this thread if it actually helps people please? That other bs and negatively, take it somewhere else
 

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I'm not sure what's your problem but for having the forum name "inner peace" you sure are quick to be telling other people what they should/ should not be doing. Considering we both had ill effects, I have no idea why you are attacking me. As I have not attacked anyone else, I have only attacked 5-mapb in general.

You did not roll for 15 years, and then had a good trip with your girlfriend on this stuff. Yet you flushed it right? I don't have the time to go back and make sure all of this is true, but I'm sure your the bodybuilding dude that weighs 245....

Calling me stupid for taking a drug to get high is not cool dude. I can't roll face with my girlfriend, she would kick my ass.

I did not have to test the 5-mapb because it was given to me by someone who already had it tested. I never did an online order, it was passed on to me by the same guy who gave me 6-apb. and I take his word for it.


Edit: I just went back and read your posts. All you do is constantly attack me, lol dude. I have no idea why you think your so superior to me for having your shit tested, and doing it with your girlfriend.
 
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I'm not sure what's your problem but for having the forum name "inner peace" you sure are quick to be telling other people what they should/ should not be doing. Considering we both had ill effects, I have no idea why you are attacking me. As I have not attacked anyone else, I have only attacked 5-mapb in general.

You did not roll for 15 years, and then had a good trip with your girlfriend on this stuff. Yet you flushed it right? I don't have the time to go back and make sure all of this is true, but I'm sure your the bodybuilding dude that weighs 245....

Calling me stupid for taking a drug to get high is not cool dude. I can't roll face with my girlfriend, she would kick my ass.

I did not have to test the 5-mapb because it was given to me by someone who already had it tested. I never did an online order, it was passed on to me by the same guy who gave me 6-apb. and I take his word for it.


Edit: I just went back and read your posts. All you do is constantly attack me, lol dude. I have no idea why you think your so superior to me for having your shit tested, and doing it with your girlfriend.
I think Im smarter and have better self esteem than you, and feel someone criticizing true 5-mapb is just negative, by your posts as other have stated you dont belong doing 5-mapb , at least the time of your recent posting. Never trust anyone without doing your own research. Ive been told many times stuff is good, but how do you know if you can not test it yourself, esp something as powerful and mind altering as 5-mapb, in a goo serotnin, empathy, loving, heal yourself communicative way

Im dont think im superior , I feel im better researched than you and have better self esteem and both are necessary for 5-mapb so dont try and turn this around me making me look like im in a high horse bc im not. Im here to tell you untill you get in a more positive mindset you most likely need to stay away from any empathogen bc its ding you know good. Im so thankful I have a girl that loves me and cares.

are you over serotonin syndrome and you never answered the question did you take 5-htp after 5-mapb or accidentally an moai? I feel it was the 5-hto that contributed to serotonin syndrome for myself
 

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I think Im smarter and have better self esteem than you, and feel someone criticizing true 5-mapb is just negative, by your posts as other have stated you dont belong doing 5-mapb , at least the time of your recent posting. Never trust anyone without doing your own research. Ive been told many times stuff is good, but how do you know if you can not test it yourself, esp something as powerful and mind altering as 5-mapb, in a goo serotnin, empathy, loving, heal yourself communicative way

Im dont think im superior , I feel im better researched than you and have better self esteem and both are necessary for 5-mapb so dont try and turn this around me making me look like im in a high horse bc im not. Im here to tell you untill you get in a more positive mindset you most likely need to stay away from any empathogen bc its ding you know good. Im so thankful I have a girl that loves me and cares.

are you over serotonin syndrome and you never answered the question did you take 5-htp after 5-mapb or accidentally an moai? I feel it was the 5-hto that contributed to serotonin syndrome for myself

Nah, I don't take 5-htp. Crazy lucid dreams. and no MAOI. Self-esteem goes a long way, that's true.

I understand it feels good/easier to order a batch of this stuff online and avoid having to find a reputable MDXX street dealer, or going through the deep web, I really do.
It's nice to have the mailman deliver some shit that makes your eyes wiggle and makes cuddling euphoric. But I don't think this stuff is as safe as MDMA/MDA to do. I really don't.

If anything I will admit that I need to be in way better shape and have good cardio, and a lower resting heart-rate, before I fuck around with these drugs again, That I must admit, and come to terms with.


But that's cool with me man, Just like you, I have not 'rolled' in years before taking this. So I really don't miss it, Neither am I bitter or negative.
 

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Has anyone been told the 5-MAPB is soon to be illegal and will not be shipped?
I saw an analogue act being proposed to congress yesterday, from a lawyer, that would make all analogues gone, once its passed, 5-mapb and everything is gone. Most likely Im guessing itll go through senate and be passed.

Well looks like my job is done, in this thread, I may still pop in and comment , hope i helped everyone

Looks like I will have to wait until I qualify for mdma trial 3 , which i qualify, for MAPS , since the police officers, veterans and firefighters are still in phase 2 studies or wait untill it becomes prescription for those who qualify in 2021, maybe give a few years. Or maybe theres a way to get legal mdma, use responsibly, use normal dosing, and use it for the positive , like what it was originally intended for


McFadden vs US new analogue act in supreme court yesterday will make all analogues illegal its coming sooner or later just like mdma was in 1985 and will be legal again sometime in the future once the house and senate gets a hold of it, bye, bye.

http://www.graydc.com/home/headlines/SCOTUSMCFADDEN-300841711.html
 
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Kl519, when did I come down on anyone for getting this batch or that? I clearly said anyone is capable of experiencing the effects of quality product by cleaning out the residual oils. And I was even nice enough to post the procedure, just not on this site because I hate dealing with people like yourself that don't even seem to read other people's posts.

To reiterate. Reagent results vary due to the residual oils, enough where you can actually test your batch before and after cleansing to see that it now reacts just like pure 5-mapb. Kind of similar to how MDMA varies on the Mecke when residual oils are present, the residual oils will make it react nearly instantly to a dark purple/black whereas pure 5-mapb reacts more slowly/steadily going crimson purple/red to black. (With MDMA really pure product has the beautiful turquoise before going dark blue/black, the residual oils make it react quicker barely seeing any green before going dark. Essentially the oils present make it react quicker/different.)

Yes a white substance can be cut, but with a brown product you KNOW its not pure. Its known that 5-mapb is a white/clear cystalline substance. If its brown/tan/beige, doesn't matter how you cut it, there is some residual oils. This isn't a down on anyone who bought product like that its just the truth... Don't get pissy with me if your too lazy to a simple wash procedure.

So again. Anyone who is disappointed with the effect of their product give a wash a try and see how it is afterwards. Google 5-mapb purification and I'm sure it can be found quick.

With all of that said, purification doesn't take away any danger this drug has. I'm not trying to claim this is some miracle drug, but it is a great substance if used responsibly and has a beautiful effect. If your too lazy to wash your product which is as about as simple as it gets, then don't talk shit about how you didn't get high. I'm not arguing dangers, I'm arguing effect. You yourself said it was a shit drug Kl519, all I'm saying is that its not and for the reasons stated. I'm sorry your vendor let you down but they aren't perfect, but your the one pulling this argument in circles with absolutely no credible evidence besides "I took some shitty 5-mapb and now i know all about it." I'm not saying I know this drug inside and out either, but that's what I'm asking you too, to keep an open mind. For everyone reading this to keep an open mind, drugs vary.

This is a potent serotonin releaser that plenty have already fucked up with, tread with caution as one obviously should with a new drug like this one. Plus the high affinity/agonism of 5-ht2b makes it unsuitable for using even close to the same amount as one would MDMA, I would suggest someone use this drug once a year at most. I use MDMA 3-4 times a year, so that gives you some perspective. It's great for that extra special roll event.

Quick question, has anyone combined this with MDMA? I've seen very few good comments on this combo. It seems people who can get quality MDMA don't bother with 5-mapb, which again is a shame, I have a feeling if the dosages were just right it'd be a magical experience that neither could reach alone.


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Kl519, when did I come down on anyone for getting this batch or that? I clearly said anyone is capable of experiencing the effects of quality product by cleaning out the residual oils. And I was even nice enough to post the procedure, just not on this site because I hate dealing with people like yourself that don't even seem to read other people's posts.

To reiterate. Reagent results vary due to the residual oils, enough where you can actually test your batch before and after cleansing to see that it now reacts just like pure 5-mapb. Kind of similar to how MDMA varies on the Mecke when residual oils are present, the residual oils will make it react nearly instantly to a dark purple/black whereas pure 5-mapb reacts more slowly/steadily going crimson purple/red to black. (With MDMA really pure product has the beautiful turquoise before going dark blue/black, the residual oils make it react quicker barely seeing any green before going dark. Essentially the oils present make it react quicker/different.)

Yes a white substance can be cut, but with a brown product you KNOW its not pure. Its known that 5-mapb is a white/clear cystalline substance. If its brown/tan/beige, doesn't matter how you cut it, there is some residual oils. This isn't a down on anyone who bought product like that its just the truth... Don't get pissy with me if your too lazy to a simple wash procedure.

So again. Anyone who is disappointed with the effect of their product give a wash a try and see how it is afterwards. Google 5-mapb purification and I'm sure it can be found quick.

With all of that said, purification doesn't take away any danger this drug has. I'm not trying to claim this is some miracle drug, but it is a great substance if used responsibly and has a beautiful effect. If your too lazy to wash your product which is as about as simple as it gets, then don't talk shit about how you didn't get high. I'm not arguing dangers, I'm arguing effect. You yourself said it was a shit drug Kl519, all I'm saying is that its not and for the reasons stated. I'm sorry your vendor let you down but they aren't perfect, but your the one pulling this argument in circles with absolutely no credible evidence besides "I took some shitty 5-mapb and now i know all about it." I'm not saying I know this drug inside and out either, but that's what I'm asking you too, to keep an open mind. For everyone reading this to keep an open mind, drugs vary.

This is a potent serotonin releaser that plenty have already fucked up with, tread with caution as one obviously should with a new drug like this one. Plus the high affinity/agonism of 5-ht2b makes it unsuitable for using even close to the same amount as one would MDMA, I would suggest someone use this drug once a year at most. I use MDMA 3-4 times a year, so that gives you some perspective. It's great for that extra special roll event.

Quick question, has anyone combined this with MDMA? I've seen very few good comments on this combo. It seems people who can get quality MDMA don't bother with 5-mapb, which again is a shame, I have a feeling if the dosages were just right it'd be a magical experience that neither could reach alone.


-GC
This is a long post so bear with me here. I feel strongly all this needs to be said bc not too many reports are out there on this stuff.

I had a good experience while on , and a very bad experience after on this stuff on days 2-8 after I took it-i experienced serotonin syndrome , which Ive never experienced on mdma, which ive done thirty times. The reward was awesome with my girlfriend on it and the risk wasnt worth it accessing risk vs reward on my previous roll, and while the roll was awesome and cleaned my psyche out so to speak, helped me connect better with myself , and my girlfriend, and helped me overcome and face some tramatic childhood memories and it did help for sure. The after effects weren't worth it and could have died. No point in ding these if your dead to not benefit from them Reward always needs quite great compared to risk

Yes, after havng done research on mdma and other empathogeons throughout the years, before I did mdma I researched it -back in 2000, I didnt know much about harm reduction back then) anyways this is more recent and I Researched 5-mapbs many, many, many hours over many months I had it a couple months before I even used it, tested it on all five regeants tests a few times and it tested out as good (I wrote down my test results/colors a few pages back a couple months ago, if i remember right)

From my research tan to brown can be good, all it means is its a different mixer/binder chemical.
brown to tan =hcl
fluffy white=succinate
supposely some new white hcl is going around so idk*theres so much people say from all my research I dont know what to beleive one person says cystal brown 5-mapb is a=apvp, another says its good etc.

*One thing is for certain if it tests out on the five regeants tests then thats the closest testing procedure, without having to pay in the hudreds of thousands of dollars for a super testing machine

Gc where are you getting this information brown is bad?

The last two trip reports in this thread me and another guy (igbot) we both got serotonin syndrome on the brown stuff. weighed out 107 mgs for myself , was 245 lbs at time and gf at 165 lbs used 75 mgs. -she didnt get serontin syndrome she said, did get some ild after effects. CG , I felt I almost died, freaked out told my mom and dad they did a goodjob of raising me, told me mom if I die im in a good place what I did etc...i started it two days after i tok it, after day 1 and 2 i was pretty good then for the next 5-6 i had it and passed out in my kitchen on sunday evening. (dosed on monday so six days after i dosed! Ignot passed out as well and went to hospital where he told doctor he did serotonin releaser.

I went to my doctor asap and didnt tell him, just told him the side effects i was having and got bloodwork done. I 100% had serotonin syndrome and about a 7-8 on a scale of 1-10, anymore i could have died, it was bad going in and out of conciousness, dizy, passing out, hyper like, tearing up crying a lot in front of people (btw i never do this). I mentioned what happened to me and hat I took tor friend of mine, who is a doctor, and he said start at 1/3 the normal dose and go up from there. normal dose is 1 mg per kg of bodyweight. what I wish I did was 40 mgs instead of abut 110 mgs - hindsights 20/20 though. I was and i guess am under the impression 5-mapb is fine once every 3 months like mdma, once one finds out the correct, responsible and safe dosing for themselves. Just note that this could take a year or so to find out your dosing, say the first time one does 30 mgs, wait some months, then next time 60 --etc untill sweet spot is found

...i know from previous experience 110mgs way quite much for me during the trip, and while the body does change and such I could be wrong I dont think id ever need any more than this with using responsibly. Gc, Im not debating with you because you could be right and im all for harm reduction , you're talking to a guy who got bad serotnin syndrome and couldnt do anything for a whole week (no gym, just taking it real easy and expirencing bad sides so im on your side as far as harm reduction)
whats your reasoning behind once every six months year ?

Would you agree , if someone were inclined to do this,to start low, at one third the dose, same thing a friend of mine, doctor, said?
The last thing id want someone to do is go through what I went though! (or worse) some of these phines on here take way more than expected and
ive dont know if its a troll, theres a report out there of a person who did 5-mapb at 1000 mgs over three days or so and almost died, and I thought it was possible I was goign to die from 110mgs

you mention high affinity/agonism of 5-ht2b, which mdma, mda, is a non selective Agonist of. why do you feel 5-mapb would be any worse than these if the responsible dose is used , and the adequate breaks taken in between?

im experienced in all of this in experience and research, first tried mdma in 2000 at nineteen. No never mixed mdma and would never think about it with 5-mapb high serotonin release. one could mix 10-20 mgs ephedrine with 5-mapb to create a mdma like feel bc ephdrine has the dopamine and ne almost on parr with mdma dopamine and ne release. That said, I highly HIGHLY dont reocmmend doing this untill more is found out about 5-mapbs. 5-mapb has stronger serontin release than mdma on paper, and from experience from what ive felt.

im just curious why a normal dose of brown crystal 5-map, caused me moderate to high serotonin syndrome on days 2-8 , after I did it. day 3-4-5-6-7 were the worst-seriously never experienced bad sides like this ever on mdma so tread with caution or dont do it. I ended throwing all mine out flushing it down the toilet. I just dont want to see people hurting themselves

btw theres a trip report on erowid where someone used 30 mgs and compared it to a normal pill of mdma, if i remember right, so take it from my bad experience, dont do this at all, or if you do want to be a research monkey, start low at 1/3 normal dosing . Just enough isnt known about this.unfortunely I threw mine out f out and dont have any , if in doubt probally best to dont use it not for the oridary person for sure, one needs to be researched, educated, responsible ----look at all the research, testing etc did on it and still ended up with a good degree of serotonin syndrome =-( Be safe and responsible please everyone
 
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