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the elusive 6-mapb

black53

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So I've decided to buy some benzofurans after leaving them alone for a long time. 5 and 6 apb are illegal in my country so they are out + I think it's time for a change. 5-apdb is boring (tried it a few times.... kinda like a worse version of mdai). So far I've decided on 6-apdb which is supposed to be good. But 6-mapb is giving me problems. I tried searching for reviews and there's just a hand full. So anyone here have any experience with it? How does it compare to 5-mapb?
Is it worth the price markup compared to 5-mapb?
 

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If it's not too prying a question to you mind me asking where you're based? Don't feel like you have to answer, since I know with this kind of site often so much as naming the country you're from can be too much of a personal give away - but if it's something you're not too private about I'd be curious.

Just wondering because my limited knowledge of the APB legality is in England and in Poland - in England as far as I know: 5-APDB, 6-APDB, 5-APB, 6-APB, 5-MAPB, 6-MAPB are all illegal - with the EAPBs ala MDEA being the only ones left legal. Here in Poland I think all of them are still legal but I've not seen any of the EAPBs pop up so far I don't think and certainly not 6-MAPB.

Note: I'm reading off articles and going on my own experiences and those of others, I'm fairly certain in what I'm about to assume but it's worth double checking and my word isn't the be all and end all, I could be wrong!

Having not tried it I can only offer speculation, but it's speculation with grounds in what we know already - so I feel fairly confident in my assumptions.

Here are the Ki values for 5-APB, 6-APB:
-------- NET -- DAT -- SERT
5-APB - (180) - (265) - (811)
6-APB - (117) - (150) - (2698)
(Lower = better)

- meaning 6-APB has a greater effect on norepinephrine and dopamine, making it more physically stimulating, and requiring a higher dose to reach similar empathy and tactile sensations to one with 5-APB (in fact if anything I think this is really where the quoted potency difference lies, as far as stimulation/euphoria go, dosages imo are similar)

It's expected that this will carry over to the N-methyl and N-ethyl analogues (i.e. 5-MAPB and 5-EAPB for 5-APB - and 6-MAPB and 6-EAPB for 6-APB). Now if we look at MDA, the drug 6-APB and 5-APB are both analogues of, and then at the N-Methyl and N-Ethyl analogues (MDMA and MDEA respectively) we'll see a trend, as the carbon chain on the amine gets longer, activity shifts from dopamine and norepinephrine to serotonin.

(-)-(MDMA)'s Ki values are: (704) (2425) (2306), and (+)-MDMA's are (398) (897) (948) so as you can see MDMA has a more balanced ratio of dopaminergic to serotonergic effects. 5-APB is heavier on serotonin and less stimulating, hence why people often describe it as "mongy and flooring" - and 6-APB is heavier on dopamine, hence the long rushing and partying all night many (myself included) can accomplish on the stuff.

Adding an N-Methyl to 5-APB, given that it should shift the focus further in the direction of serotonin is pushing it more and more in the direction of primarily serotonergic drugs like MDAI, IAP and the like, though still with its own euphoric push. 5-EAPB on the other hand sounds to me like it should mostly not be that revelationary.

Now with 6-APB on the other hand you have something notably more dopaminergic than MDMA, so add that N-Methyl group may just make for a very close MDMA analogue. 6-EAPB I'd also imagine would be quite similar to MDEA.

Personally aside from mixes I'd give 5-MAPB and 5-EAPB a mix myself (though for mixes I'm sure they excel wonderfully) but 6-MAPB and 6-EAPB should be pretty darn lovely. Sadly not had the chance to sample either though. Only 6-APB, 5-APB and 5-MAPB myself.
 

Section813

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Very well stated JG.

I have tried what was believed to be 6-mapb. It didn't tickle the spot from an empathy standpoint. There were some possible mitigating factors such as full stomach. I am planning on trying it again soon and possible mixing it with 5-mapb. If I get a little extra cash I plan on sending a sample of the 6-mapb to get tested.

Are there Ki values available for 5/6-mapb?
 

black53

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Thanks for the replys guys, I've decided what I'll pick.

6-apdb and 6-mapb

5 and 6 apb are out because they are illegal in my country
5-apdb is out because it's a shittier version of mdai
5 and 6 eapb are out because according to every trip report I've read they are just worst copies of the illegal benzofurans

5-mapb is a candidate and if money weren't a problem it would be one of my picks, but since money is limited... I mean I liked 5-mapb, but always found it lacking in the trypness part and the length part.

6-apdb is nice according to reports + I'd like to try something new.
6-mapb is still largely unknown but since it's available in smaller quantities than 5-mapb I figure it's worth a shot.
And if more money suddenly manifests itself 5-mapb.

>Are there Ki values available for 5/6-mapb?
Not that I've seen them.
 

adder

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We need to remember that the capability to inhibit the reuptake is not equal to the capability of releasing a neurotransmitter. Also, when you synthesize 5-APB, you're getting 7-APB as a side product, and when you synthesize 6-APB, you're getting 4-APB as a side product. Supposedly, both of these compounds add to the overall effects much. I can imagine that a lot of the psychedelic effects of 6-APB can be actually attributed to 4-APB, which is like Bromo-Dragonfly without one wing and without bromine (EDIT: actually, the furan ring fused with the benzene ring is inverted vs. Bromo-Dragonfly and 7-APB is like Bromo-Dragonfly without bromine and the other wing, so this kind of destroys the theory...; on the other hand it seems that the the furan ring on the 5th position is somewhat more important for the psychedelic action).

6-APB is more psychedelic for me than 5-APB is. 6-APB have a low affinity towards SERT, but it may still have a good affinity towards 5-HT(2A) or actually it's 4-APB that is responsible for the psychedelic effects. 6-APB feels quite speedy, more than 5-APB, so I guess that's the DAT/SERT ratio here. Both 5-APB and 5-APDB are mellower than 6-APB.

I haven't taken N-methylated analogues yet, but I guess that 5-MAPB could be a winner out of all these, most similar to MDMA. But then again some phenethylamines that are good psychedelics turn out to be worthless when they're N-methylated and they lose their 5-HT(2A) agonistic capabilities. I can imagine that's the problem with 6-MAPB/4-MAPB.
 
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jesuspeople666

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130 mg was very very similar to mdma high light & intense at the same time but i have had very trouble eating the past 2 days i dont know why cant eat mutch of anything my stomack is empty
 

jesuspeople666

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took 130 and felt like I never got quite where I wanted to be,
created 9 capsule with 150 mg today that we will bring friends, but how may others react at 150 mg? it may be too strong for somebody others maybe?
 
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