DPT's visual effects (and especially their relationship to color and light) are really unique amongst psychedelics for me. Color is a prominent aspect when I take moderate doses. Fuchsia is probably the most intense of the bunch...also some mauve and lighter blue-ish hues. I usually only get blood-red with more speedy/aggressive psychedelics (I get it on mescaline quite a bit...also on acid).Thanatos said:Does anyone else get burgundy, blood red, fuschia colored visuals with this one?
Most people describe the head space but don't elaborate on the meta-analysis of its visual effects too often.
Was it less gross in your sinuses than the cinnamon? It certainly smells less gross to me, but haven't insufflated it yet myself.I tried 45mg insufflated of the white DPT and got only a + maybe ++
Perhaps the cinnamon DPT is not so impure, it does look really gross though.
Never snorting DPT again though oh god it was nasty
Interesting to know, I had some red DPT, suppose you could call it cinammon, and 50mg snorted was pretty effective for me.Please take what I have to say with a grain of (Hcl?) salt, because we have no way of knowing for sure if we're talking about the same batch, plus I'm using my subjective experience with it to guess at potency, and there's a large margin of error there..
I don't think the cinnamon DPT is totally bunk or only 20% pure, I believe it must be pretty close to completely pure. At the doses I experimented with, the cinnamon DPT yielded subjective effects very comparable to those reported on erowid etc. at the same dosages. Also, I have used the newer white batch, and did not find it to be noticeably more potent than the cinnamon one.
I think it doesn't take much impurity to change the colour of a chem like DPT. But because we don't know what these impurities are, I will never put that "cinnamon" DPT directly into my body via IM. At the same time, remember that just because the new DPT is white, doesn't mean it's necessarily more pure either. It probably is, but until it is tested by a reliable 3rd party, we just don't know.
Thank you kindly morninggloryseed! I've been experimenting with it quite a bit lately and the deathly atmospherics have definitely been occurring with a surprisingly consistent frequency. Im not sure why I've never found it to be overtly spooky though (I generally always enjoy my dpt experiences)...Im guessing it's just my disposition, I do tend to enjoy substances that others usually find to be unsettling in some way (datura, salvia, etc). I have had a few people use the substance with me in the past month or so and they've pretty much all found the experience to be unabashedly strange/ghostly/disconcerting/etc...so I'd definitely agree with you that there's kind of an inherent spookiness to the substance.morninggloryseed said:I learned recently I am not a visual learner, hammered home by reading this and knowing that I would have had to try REALLY hard to be so eloquent in describing visuals....and still would not have pulled it off.
Viṣakaṇṭha is definitely describing DPT's visual effects as far as I am concerned.
Edit: Always thought DPT had a spooky death thing going about it...from all those cancer patients in the 70s.
DPT tends to have a high variability amongst users. I often find 50mgs insufflated to be a good starting dose for people but I'll almost always break it up when others are taking the substance with me for the first time...I usually recommend taking 25mgs, waiting about 30 minutes to ere on the side of caution, and then take the other 25mgs if they're feeling up to it. For me, 50mgs is usually a bit less intense than what I would consider to be a moderate dose when I take it by itself...but again it does have extreme variability as far as dosage is concerned.Axed said:Just got some DPT (finally! been interested in this stuff for a long time), does 50mg insufflated sound like a good dose?
Good call on taking 60mgs total...I think that's much more effective. I find DPT has 30mg sweet spots. A 30mg trip tends to be light and dare I say "fun", 60mgs is usually a moderate dose, and 90 is pretty intense. 100mgs and above and the substance seems to lose its enjoyment factor for me.kingme said:my latest experience started with 40mg insufflated, then 20mg more at t+15mins. definetly a different place than the last...
Definitely! Visuals do seem to be predominantly centered around light...as opposed to entity contact, color shifts, etc. Usually the higher the dosage I take the more color becomes filtered out, but the more intense the luminosity becomes at the same time.kingme said:visually, OEVs were subdued and not bright or intrusive as were CEVs, and all were more or less light related
I also find DPT highly erotic...more so than any other tryptamine. And the sheer weirdness of it is definitely a major factor...it's relationship to death (the french euphemism for the orgasm as "La petite mort" is very fitting here), and the fact that it's a very pulsating/electrical energy-based substance both add to it's sexually enticing nature as well.kingme said:of course i tried getting erotically involved.. and i must say dpt is very high up on the list of sheer weird pleasure orgasms.
I always find it very pleasant as well. I would also generally go with DPT over DMT almost any day. From discussing it with people though and reading trip reports and whatnot, it does appear to be an experience that's not pleasurable for a large percentage of people. It's enjoyment factor seems to have as high a variability as it's dosage does. A very mysterious substance...Help?!?! said:It always makes me chuckle when I see people talking about DPTs "negative aura". I find it highly pleasant and euphoric but then again I don't necessarily go looking for those types of things as it usually doesn't bother me much.
My tek: use 1 part, by weight, baking soda to 4 parts by weight DPT HCl. About 1 drop of water per mg of DPT HCl. Mix DPT and water in a spoon, using brief moments of lighter flame beneath to add gentle heat to help it dissolve. Once dpt is dissolved, add baking soda, and stir it with a pin. You'll see it react and the freebase will clump. You can leave it to dry or smoke it wet is fine too. Feel free to crit my tek if anyone has a better one.I've read some of the thread, but help me out easy here guys. I need to convert this to freebase, does anyone have a TEK? I need instructions please. Also, hypothetical here, could I suspend the room temperature liquid freebase DPT in propylene glycol to vaporize in an electronic hookah tank? Put some flavor in there, you know, sounds good right?