I've read a sick trip report about this once, curious about what other people think of it.
Personally I think it's on the expensive side but on the other hand the doses are low, sometimes that doesn't totally add up
Big & Dandified
Everyone please tone it down with the vendor discussion, no need to walk the edge with that. The well meant advice is much appreciated I'm sure but let us reserve this thread for actual talk about the stuff itself.
I heard that this is great chemical, I read very positive report *snip* The author of this report claimed he had +4 with this chemical(obviously, it is possible that he could be just tripping very hard).
It is a pity that its synthesis requires some hard-to-obtain precursors.
^ Well, "difficult synthesis" isn't totally offtopic, no? (I hope this doesn't count as synth discussion). It implies that, for example, fake 5-Methyl-MDA is possible to apper on the market. I hope to get some real 5-Me-MDA eventually.
this chemical makes me question weather or not the oxygens are nesesary in all chems at the positions they are in. say 4 or 3 substituted 2,5-methyl-pea's or such. imagine the 2cg counterpart of something like that. a ring with all those methyl groups jabbin around hah. doubt that would work though no electronegativity
And yes ign5s I agree that does seem like it would not hydrogen bridge bond well... but what if we would retain the 4-oxygen of 5-methyl-MDA but not the 3 one, you would get 7-methyl-5-APDB (numbering is rearranged all of a sudden mind you)... or the other way around make a 4-desoxy version of MMDA (yielding 3-methoxy-6-APDB if I am not mistaken).
Just fantasizing of course, some of the weird effects I have read of 5-methyl-MDA combined with those of the AP(D)B's that could get very sketchy. OTOH it might be chockfull of win.
MMDA is known for its 'brain movie' effect, am I deluded or does it seem like 5-methyl-MDA might also have something hinting towards that potential?
when magickalkat started talking about 5-Methyl-MDA's CEV's in comparison to MMDA, you notice real quick just how close 5-methyl-mda is to 3-methoxy-mda (mmda). the activity on the 2 position of MDA's phenyl group is what you're wanting to focus on right? nope you're not deluded, i picked up on that too
MMDA is not 3-methoxy-MDA, it is 3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine or 5-methoxy-MDA. Confusing you might say, but notice that even though the "4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine" part abbreviates to MDA as well it is not the same since the numbering changes it. MDA is 3,4-MDA.
I would personally be pretty interested in MMDA-2 but it does not have a methoxy on the 2-position of MDA... on MDA itself its the 6-position though at the moment you attach it you have to re-number it making the 6 the 2 all of a sudden and making the 3,4 a 4,5 again.
yes, i apologize for confusion it was laziness on my behalf, mmda is 3-methoxy-4,5-mda. mmda-2 i've only read about from one person outside of Shulgin, they reported a positive experience. out of all the mdxx's i only have experience with mda/mdma/mdea but i really love the talk of these mda analogues
When I get some of this substance in I will report back with a full detailed dandy read.. I'm pretty hyped up about it.. I wonder if a few hundred past experiences with MDA/MDMA/MDE will tamper with this chemical.. I have lost the MDxx "magic" From what I understand though this is more hallucinogenic then empathic ... We shall see!
there are very limited and scattered reports of this substance. best to be careful and not hope for too much, especially if you dont know your source that well. last i read, there were only a couple of reports of its use, some probably with bunk material, others with good reports.