- Aug 11, 2001
Welcome to the Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread
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#xxx 5-METHOXY-DALT; TRYPTAMINE, N,N-DIALLYL-5-METHOXY; N,N-
DIALLYL-5-METHOXYTRYPTAMINE; INDOLE, 3-[2-(DIALLYLAMINO)ETHYL]-5-
SYNTHESIS: Synthesis section removed by moderator. Wait for the book and buy it!
DOSAGE: 12 - 20 mg. orally
DURATION: 2 - 4 h
QUALITATIVE COMMENTS (from various sources): (with 10 mg. orally)
"I am looking at everything through someone's open friendly eyes,
not mine. I would like to go through life like this if others
saw me as OK. I am 10 feet tall, my pulse is 72 but uneven, and
light-headed is a better describer of where I am than
(with 16 mg. orally) "The music was fabulous, as was the sex and
neither of us had a problem with orgasm. But there was a total
lack of imagery -- less than I would normally have to the music
when unstoned, so there might have been an actual suppression. I
was pretty much baseline by the third hour."
(with 20 mg. orally) "It's coming on strongly in 15 minutes, and
at the half hour point I am at a +++ with eyes closed -- but
nothing with them open! No hang-over."
EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY: The rapid onset and rapid drop-off of
5-MeO-DALT is remarkable. With oral administration, it is common
to be aware of the effects in less than 15 minutes and to be
fully there at the half-hour point. This implies absorption into
the blood stream directly from the stomach and rapid metabolic
To my total suprise, this compound is not in the scientific
literature, at least as searched by Chem. Abstracts. Its
synthesis and its pharmacology have never been published.
There are a number of modifications of the two double bonds
ont there on the nitrogen alkyl groups that would be interesting
to explore. If they were changed from double bonds to triple
bonds, one would have 5-methoxy-N,N-dipropargyltryptamine, or 5-
MeO-DPRT. I have made a little bit of it but it was quite impure
and difficult to clean up. The complexity of the GCMS patterns
suggested that there might be some chemistry going on between the
two propargyl groups.
Another direction possible for modifying the structure
would be to relocate the oxygen in indole ring over to the 4-
position. 4-Methoxytryptamine is commercially available, and it
should be directly substitutable for the 5-methoxytryptamine used
in this synthetic process giving rise to 4-MeO-DALT. Yet further
out, what about starting the 4-benzyloxytryptamine and walking
the same path? The product could be easily stripped of the
benzyl ether by the usual catalytic hydrogenation, giving rise to
the diallyl analogue of psilocin, 4-HO-DALT. I would wager a ten
dollar bet that the acetate ester of this material, 4-AcO-DALT
would be in the brain within minutes of swallowing the pill.
There are a lot of interesting extensions, but all of them
would call for careful chemistry. And, of course, the essential
care of tasting new things in very small increasing doses. Some
of these could be extremely potent.
I will be dosing this substance tomorrow afternoon and will have a trip report done and posted by the early evening. I will try to give as much details and descriptions as I can as I'd imagine alot of people would be interested in reading about it.perceptionist said:Damn, some one needs to write a trip report quick....
By saying "it was also synthed around 1960" are you saying that the 5 Methoxy (5-MeO) variety of DALT was synthesized around 1960? I ask this because I was under the impression that 5-MeO-DALT was just invented by Shulgin, according to the entry for it mentioned on a previous page of this thread, unless I read it wrong.Gorgon222 said:Info on DALT has been documented and was released at the same time as the info for 5-meo-DALT. It was also synthed around 1960 apparently.
From the entry on DALT:ppirc said:By saying "it was also synthed around 1960" are you saying that the 5 Methoxy (5-MeO) variety of DALT was synthesized around 1960? I ask this because I was under the impression that 5-MeO-DALT was just invented by Shulgin, according to the entry for it mentioned on a previous page of this thread, unless I read it wrong.
I'm curious, what board are you guys getting this information on new entries for this new book from? Other than this thread on Bluelight, I can't find or locate information about this new substance anywhere.
Come late morning I'll be dosing; I will be preparing myself tonight.
I don't think there was any 5-MeO-DALT circulating on the grey market before Shulgin and anonymous had made the entry available, if I remember correctly it happened shortly after.morninggloryseed said:Shulgin chose to make this entry (from his forthcoming book) available because 5-MeO-DALT had been circulating on the grey market anf there was no other information. That was very nice of him. No more is available because we just have to wait for the new book!