Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread - Part 2

[Solipsis]

Welcome to the Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread​

[Go to the previous Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread here]

Subthreads:

• Combinations

External links:

• Wikipedia 5-MeO-DALT page
• Erowid 5-MeO-DALT Vault
• Isomer Design's TIHKAL page on 5-MeO-DALT

• Erowid 5-MeO-DALT Experiences Page
• BL's Trip Reports on 5-MeO-DALT

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[Solipsis]

Some posts from the previous thread:

Well ove the last few days I've been experimenting with various doses. Low oral doses are very uninteresting. like a more edgy mdma. Higher doses I find relaxing and mildly visual, can be very nice. As someone mentioned on here I think things seem to be stretched and warped. Vaping is VERY intence. Did two hits last night and was very enjoyable, kind of like psychedelic crack. beware heart rate shot through the roof, not something you would want to be doing on the regular.

Elaborate on psychedelic crack please.

you smoke it for short rush that's really intense and elevates your heart rate and is also psychedelic.

It hits you incredibly quick with psychedelia for a short while then subsides, i thought it was pretty self explanatory.

 

[twelvesevndi]

from a random thread a couple days ago

its not really like other tryptamines (except maybe low-doses of MiPTs or DiPTs). for me, it feels like some clean version of amphetamine until doses of ~60 mg where i find music appreciation and some of the tripping mindset. at only ~90mg i felt uncomfortable and and unwell, and also very hungry for tomato soup.

for many people that feeling of toxicity/discomfort can come as low as 40 mg... if you want to explore this compound for its psychedelic properties you will probably need to slowly titrate the dose upwards
...
personally i think 5-meo-dalt is misunderstood and really more of a social enhancer than a psychedelic. for me its primary utility is as a stimulant without crash/rebound or appetite disruption (when combined with weed i get the munchies to an unprecedented level).

 

[BananasAndOranges]

A social Enhancer lol!? Dude this shit makes it hard to even talk during the peak and even after. I do not think it feels like an Amphetamine at All it gives you Munchies. Whatever that above guy took I question.

 

[twelvesevndi]

try a low dose sometime then? i was never saying 75 mg would be good for a night out.

tbh, tho i'm not even clear what you are trying to say... it seems like you may always have a hard time talking.

i agree its not actually amphetamine and it won't help anyone study.
just try a low dose...im sure you'll figure it out.

 

[ravemau5]

LSD + 5-Meo-DALT

I researched 60mg of the 5-meo-dalt at a rave the other night [+00:00 40mg caps, + 01:20 20mg raw]. Raged out the hardest I have since August of 2011. The trip was very mild and stoney/energetic. Not much happening with OEV's; mebbe some movement/wall breathing/light color phosphors. When I closed my eyes and raged out, the CEV's were pretty fucking cool; but compared to something like 400mics of LSD and staring at a wall, I had a hard time fully examining the visuals/fractals from the 5-meo-dalt. it was like trying to remember an image from a dream. I remember during the show I would blink really fast and the CEV's would transfer onto OEV's, giving people auras around them and other things I cannot describe- it didn't last long though. The mindfuck was oh-so light and gave me a light "wow" sensation. coming down and looking out my apartment window; everything seemed jolly, fresh, and beautiful. interesting weird mild psyche.

I am going to another show soon and I am tempted to try around 60mg 5-meo-dalt with 200-300mics of LSD. Would this be a safe combination? I feel as if the L could help focus on the CEV's of 5-meo-dalt. IMO, that'd be AWESOME. Is this a silly notion or a valid research topic?

 

[seiler]

bump

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

The combo should be fine, it's not dangerous or anything if that's what you meant to ask. Also, when trying combinations that you haven't attempted before, be cautious in your dosage.

 

[ravemau5]

thanks. and yeah I was not sure if it was safe or not, over thinking it.

200-300mics LSD then at around 2-3hr[20-15min before main dj comes on] + 50mg 5-meo-dalt

I think that will be a good time~!
I am confident that i can handle this tryptamine combo. 300mic is how much i usually need for an enjoyable, not overwhelming trip. might do 200mic though...
50mg 5-meo-dalt should defiantly be interesting admist an L peak, hehe.

 

[boiledfruit]

I'm glad someone else likes 5-meo-dalt for a rave setting, I find it the tryptamine version of 2C-B. 40mg and liquor was good enough for me.

 

[theghostofbillhicks]

Seems a bit blunt edged to me. Any further specifics anyone? At the moment I'm definitely not convinced!

 

[hx_]

Seems a bit blunt edged to me. Any further specifics anyone? At the moment I'm definitely not convinced!

I smoked it, tastes MINGING. Intensely floral and synthetic tasting.

Found it to just be an anxious "rush" with the feeling of overwhemledness, intense hunger and muscle weakness. Along with hints that visuals might appear, but no, everything just looks a little more "sharp".

I'd compare it to a cannabinoid overdose without the fear or panic.

 

[Jinux]

I took ~70mg (mixed with water, oral) on sunday evening and it was VERY intense. Everything was covered in bright coloured swirling patterns and the body high was awesome, I had that overwhelming urge to move coupled with the orgasmic loss of strength (named because it also happens to me after orgasm, you know, the weak knee syndrome ).

I read a lot of people here having crappy/boring/not-worth-it experiences and I just can't see how, it's a strange situation. As with all other Psychs, I find company potentiates the trip 100-fold, maybe you guys should try tripping socially?

I smoked it, tastes MINGING. Intensely floral and synthetic tasting.

I found the same, and drinking it (as above) also tasted disgusting. The only way I can see to avoid this is to bomb it in a rizzla maybe?

 

[Normski]

Bombing it works fine, I've always bombed it and it comes on in 10-15 minutes on an empty stomach.

 

[DexterMeth]

The stuff doesn't give me very strong visuals, but it's more so mental tofu than 2C-D even. I've vaped it and found that to be quite uneventful.
@psychedelic crack: ya pretty much. The first gram I got of this stuff, I killed in less than a week. "Tripped" almost the entire time, and I never do that anymore. It feels more like an ultra-nootropic than a psychedelic to me. I can function perfectly well in society on it, drive fine, etc.

 

[omicamushroom]

22mg made me feel pretty terrible. It gave me a bad headache. (I may have been due for a headache).

18mg wasn't too bad for me... but it wasn't very good either.

This chem lack in comparison to the other chems I got. I'd rather eat 2c-c or even low dose foxy (if I want to stick with the tryptamine buzz)

 

[davem]

I've been experimenting with this chem for some time now and several things have been noted:
1. set and setting are more important than any other chem I've come across, so much so that I thought I'd been ripped off with two purchases I made, only to be proven wrong at a later date....as a result I've now got about 20g to get through!!
2. I find 40mg is my comfortable dose - orally taken in gelcaps. Full/empty stomach makes a huge difference in on-set time. Feelings of nausea seem to be bought about by wind and a good burp will clear it, no problem
3. A night of partying, 1st dose of evening MDMA/mxe/mpa (200/20/40mg), followed about 4 hours later by 5-meo-dalt/mxe/mpa (40/20/40mg) is sublime, but a whole night (8 hours or so) is required. Just as the MDMA is tailing off, the 5-meo-dalt kicks in and makes it a whole wonderful something else - I can happily dance 8 hours solid on that at 50 yrs of age...and still be dancing on the way back home!! :D
4. It is perfectly possible to be taken by surprise by this chemical - I've had it from no effect at all, 2 hours to come on and coming on within mins, just as I've climbed in to the car for a 5 minute journey immediately after dropping the cap. I always take the dose orally in capsules. - As a result of this I will no longer be driving after taking it, no matter how long I think I've got before it hits - it can be fast and furious!!
5. It potentiates beautifully with mxe/mpa, if you like a fast n furious come up, followed by a sublime trip.
6. It appears to mix well with 3-meo-pcp - I've tried it twice now, again at reasonable doses, 2/3 my normal dose for each chemical and both times have ended up with a constant comfortable level trip where neither chemical has dominated and an evening of lovely headspace ensued with no probs eating, communicating or sleeping within a relatively short time of taking (around 4 hours).
7. I had the most amazing life affirming trip on it after a weekend of abuse - driving 250 miles, partying hard and no sleep for the best part of 48 hours - took it with a cup of tea, just before getting some sleep - it was my 4th dose of the weekend (40mg) didn't expect anything to happen due to no reserves left and tolerance levels due to repeated dosing, but thought I might wake up about 4 hours later in a nice post trip headspace. Before I'd made my tea it was hitting me fast n furious. Sat with cuppa in garden watching sunrise through mist and garden coming in to vital life - 1 hour of pure bliss, then a cold shower and slept like a baby that sleeps really well!!
8. I love this chemical.....I always feel well rested and recovered at the end of a 5-Meo-DALT trip - it's like someone has hit the reset button and all is understood and well with the world

 

[MrDiamondFDC]

I'm curious about how this mixes with 4-Aco-DMT or DXM. I'm gonna find out one or the other this weekend.

 

[killerd]

I've played around with 5-meo-dalt a few times now and honestly I've taken a real liking to it, last night was the best I've had so far:

Took orally 20-22mgs at bout 4am coming down off a night on MPA & booze (had dosed orally 80mgs, 60mgs then another 60mgs + 15mgs 6APB + 20mgs mxe at intervals between 9pm and 1am roughly + a few beers) also split 40 mgs MXE into 3 bumps which I had between 4 & 6. Seemingly the DALT transported me from feeling pretty shit coming down to this state of carefree, calm, serenity. I felt a relaxing warmth, and just layed around half watching a ridiculously good girl on girl porno. Quite a trippy feeling with mild closed eye visuals, and with eyes open I twice hallucinated some geometrical shapes flying about - cool but literally they were like just there for a flash and then gone. Looking through some photos was the coolest though, if you focussed on them they slowly seemed to have this dimensional depth, and this life-like look, & were moving really slowly. I must've passed out around 6ish, I came to abruptly at about 7.15 with very little memory of the preceding night (this has come back by now though) and felt this wierd sense of panic like there was something I needed to urgently sort out, had all these complicated thoughts and didn't fully understand what was going on, but in trying to figure out what it was I needed to so I gradually realised that this was just some kind of dream and the scary feeling had pretty much dissipated within 5 mins.

When it was wearing off by 8 or 9 I got up and did a few chores cleaning the place (all be it moving quite slowly, possibly since I'd now taken 2 etizolams planning to go to sleep before deciding I didn't want to just yet), had a cup of tea and managed to force down a slice of toast and a protein shake. Had a shower, then went and layed down with another 10mgs DALT & a couple of 10mg mexy bumps, was alright but not as eventful as the first time, was asleep by 12, and up at 5pm in a pretty good mood.

General thoughts:
- davem's advice posted above is good advice, I definately agree with what he's saying
- dosage is really something to consider with this stuff, bear in mind Shulgin only did amounts between 12 & 20mg!
- There really isn't that much info out there about 5-meo-dalt so all the more reason to be careful, start low, work up etc
- I've read that there's a lot of variation in the purity.
- There are both freebase and salt versions, & this coupled with chosen ROI can lead to considerable variation in effects.
(above report relates to the freebase which I dosed orally)

 

[shishigami]

Can the HCl be vaped and what is the duration of action for vaped?