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US Politics The 2020 Trump Presidency Thread

JessFR

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america has always been pals with dictators when it suits them. The problem is DC and that america is run by corporations democracy is a lie the system runs so deep. Duterte is revered in the Philippines for reducing massive crime by killing people well i don't agree with it the people that live there do and it has made a impact reducing gangs and heavy violence.

Trump is going to win a landslide biden is legit a fool. They should of put that Hawaiian lady democrat up for president she seemed pretty good. But Hillary Clinton hates other women.
There is a huge difference between having a foreign policy that involves morally questionable decisions for America's long term interests, and having a president who disregards America's long term interests just so dictators can stroke his ego.

And that's aside from the point that this is just more whataboutism. Just because other presidents did something wrong with doesn't justify this one doing something wrong.

God the endless excuses people make for trump.
 

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more allegations of the trump administration willfully misleading the u.s. population: Whistleblower says top DHS officials distorted intel to match Trump statements, lied to Congress

Brian Murphy says top DHS officials wanted intelligence to "match up" with Trump's statements about "ANTIFA and 'anarchist' groups."

WASHINGTON — A whistleblower is accusing top Trump administration homeland security officials of violating laws and policies by lying to Congress and manipulating intelligence reports to conform with President Donald Trump's political agenda.

A written complaint by Brian Murphy, who was a top Department of Homeland Security intelligence analyst, accuses top DHS officials of blocking analysis of Russian election interference, watering down intelligence reports about corruption and violence fueling a refugee flow from Central America, and "modify(ing) assessments to ensure they matched up with the public comments by President Trump on the subject of ANTIFA and 'anarchist' groups."


The complaint also says DHS gave false information to Congress last year about the numbers of suspected terrorists crossing the southern border. That allegation mirrors the findings of an NBC News report in January 2019, which determined that the Trump administration was misrepresenting the data on suspected terrorists crossing the southern border, claiming thousands when in fact there were almost none.
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Court Greenlights Lawsuit Alleging Trump’s Inaugural Committee Funneled Money to His Personal Businesses

A judge in Washington, D.C. on Wednesday rejected a bid to dismiss a lawsuit filed against Donald Trump’s Presidential Inaugural Committee (PIC). The lawsuit claims that the Committee and the Trump Organization abused non-profit funds to enrich the president’s family.

The complaint, filed by D.C. Attorney General Karl A. Racine (D) in January, alleged that the non-profit PIC violated the law by wasting approximately $1 million of charitable funds in overpayment for the use of event space at the president’s D.C. hotel.

“The Trump Entities, for-profit companies that conduct business with an aim toward maximizing revenue, were aware at their highest levels of the PIC’s nonprofit status,” Racine’s office claimed. “Nonetheless they entered into this private inurement transaction with the PIC, charging the nonprofit rates not only above market for the use of event space, but also well above the Trump Hotel’s own pricing guidelines. The Trump Entities even insisted the PIC pay these exorbitant rates in full when the Hotel could not provide the full event space on at least one day. In doing so, the Trump Entities contributed to waste and unconscionably benefited from nonprofit funds required to be used for the public good.”
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^ of course. he has absolutely no issue with trying to raise fear and induce panic over baseless, evidence-free political issues so his claimed reasoning over the covid deception is obviously bullshit...

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So uhh, the elections pretty soon.

The Wall done yet?
How bout hillary, she in jail yet?

Not that trump seems to be promising anything for a second term anyway.
 

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obamacare has been repealed and replaced with something “terrific,” “phenomenal” and “fantastic”. and, as was promised, it was done within president trump's first 100 days in office.

so let's give credit where due, eh?

wait. no. nevermind.

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Sure coulda used fantastic healthcare right now. Rather than an employment based healthcare system when everyone's unemployed.. Because of a pandemic.
 

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The one thing I like about trump is he is hard on crime. I did see a tweet once regarding of an immediate execution which I like,

Perhaps all. Lets see how much he lied tonight. He seemed humble.

Its like who sucks less here. Biden is soft. No doubt a troubled person like trump will be a hard ass, but perhaps what is needed.
 

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When do his lies stop to us for his short term benefit:

Forbes, Despite Trump Claims, CDC Says Vaccine Won't Be Widely Available Until Late 2021


Despite Trump Claims, CDC Says Vaccine Won't Be Widely Available Until Late 2021
Andrew SolenderForbes Staff
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TOPLINE Top U.S. health officials on Wednesday poured cold water on President Trump’s optimistic timeline for a coronavirus vaccine, stating that while a vaccine may be in limited supply by the end of 2020, it will not be distributed widely enough for a return to normal life until well into 2021.
Senate Appropriations Committee Holds Hearing On Response By HHS To Coroanavirus Pandemic
WASHINGTON, DC – SEPTEMBER 16: Centers for Disease[+]
GETTY IMAGES

KEY FACTS
In nearly every one of his public appearances in recent weeks, Trump has said a vaccine will be available before election day and framed vaccine approval as tantamount to distribution, telling supporters during a North Carolina tele-rally earlier this month, “It’ll be delivered, the vaccine, before the end of the year and frankly, maybe even during the month of October.”

Trump has also argued that vaccine approval would mark the beginning of the end of the pandemic, stating at a rally in Nevada on Sunday that, thanks to speedy vaccine development, “We’ll be ready before the end of the year and we will very easily defeat the China virus” and “we’re making that round beautiful last turn” in the pandemic.

But Paul Mango, the deputy chief of staff at the Department of Health and Human Services, told Bloomberg that the U.S. would have the capacity to vaccinate every American by April 2021, but that only 20 million doses would be ready if a vaccine were approved in October.

Redfield offered a grimmer timeline, telling the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee that a vaccine would be in “very limited supply” and would have to be “prioritized” if approved between October and December, and estimated it would be “generally available” to the public by “late second quarter, third quarter 2021.”

Redfield also played down the importance of a vaccine – something Trump has framed as marking the end of the pandemic – in relation to masks, arguing that masks are “the most important, powerful public health tool we have,” and even going so far as to say they are “more guaranteed to protect me against COVID” than a vaccine.

Forbes has reached out to the White House for comment.

CRUCIAL QUOTE
“Taking this at face value it means we aren’t even halfway through the pandemic,” Washington Post data reporter Christopher Ingraham said of Redfield’s comments on when a vaccine would be available.

CHIEF CRITIC
Democratic politicians have expressed concern about the vaccine approval process, alleging Trump’s desire for a speedy end to the pandemic has led him to impose political pressure on the process. “I would be hesitant, but I’m going to ask a lot of questions,” Cal Cunningham, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate in North Carolina, said of taking a vaccine at a debate on Monday. “I think that is incumbent on all of us right now, in this environment, with the way we’ve seen politics intervening in Washington.”

BIG NUMBER
44%. That’s the percent of American adults who said in an NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll in August that they would take a coronavirus vaccine approved by the government. As much as 22% said they would not take one, while 33% said they were unsure.
 

Anonymous Dissident

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Omfg, it's only day 1336 of the Trump presidency. Apparently one doesn't need to be on high doses of psychedelics for time dilation to be a real bitch🤣
 

JessFR

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Seems like trumps of the view that once a safe vaccine reaches the end of its phase 3 trial, hundreds of millions of doses just magically show up around the country in needles ready to go.
 

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After watching Trump tonight, suggesting that the ballots be removed from the election and just having each state legislature select who will be sent to vote, I'm really starting to wonder if this is how the rise of Hitler felt to those Germans who weren't into the whole fascism thing...

Or maybe the decline of Rome under Nero would be a more apt comparison? Either way, we might be fucked....

This is getting more than just fucking scary...

FUCK YOU TRUMP!!!!
 

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Yeah, he also refused to say he would leave peacefully. Incredibly scary, I honestly don't know what's going to happen to our country. Worst thing we ever did was elect that narcissistic psychopath.
 

TheInvisibleStoner

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Yeah, big things are coming. I am getting ready. No clue what I will do since all americans are treated as termites now with covid. Plus there is also covid going on. This is nuts. Maybe go to a small town and stay in a motel for a bit if shit gets wild. Especially in this city things will happen.
 

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Bill Maher was saying this was gonna happen like, over a year ago. People laughed at him.
 
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