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Politics The 2020 Candidates: Right, Left and Center!

TheLoveBandit

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So, plan B?

Bernie's been effectively pushed aside, whether he lays down and takes it is up to him. Personally, I'd like to see him run independent.

But as Biden heads towards the nomination, nobody wants him. Now what? Can't go back to Bernie, DNC made it clear they don't want him.

Conservatives are a murmering about who may come in and take the nomination, or ride in as VP and quickly ascend if Biden is found mentally unfit once elected. Basically, a shoe in on Joe's coattails, hand picked. There's plenty of VP names, but none with weight and merit. Though NY Governor, Cuomo, is getting a lot of free press and airtime right now with the virus...hmmm. He is Trump-lite, or so some say. Which would allow a move towards #NotTrump but still please the power movers (senior politicians, big business, etc).

Personally, I don't see it. I can't imagine someone dropping in last minute to take the nomination (a direct spit in all the candidates' faces) though maybe, just maybe a VP name with plans to take over shortly could be possible.

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edit: TLB -- it'll obviously be Buttgag

I find it to be credible as well. Is it opportunistic? Maybe. Doesn't change the fact that I think he more than likely did it.
Opportunistic? I can hardly think of a worse time from an opportunistic standpoint. Why not before Super Tuesday? Why not when Biden was in fourth place in delegates? Why not when Warren was near-to-beating Biden in the polls? Why not any time when the story wouldn't get drowned out by a huge pandemic? There are so, so many better times to reveal this information. Both Reade and Halper are long-time Democrats; Reade's brother Colin is apparently a Libertarian, so I'm not sensing any possible pro-Trump bias. (But if you are trying to support Trump, why not wait until Biden clinches the nomination, so you can really throw the Democrats into chaos?)

Sure, Katie Halper is a Bernie Sanders supporter. But we also know that Tara Reade didn't go to Katie Halper until after Time's Up rejected her. We also know that Reade was harassed by online mobs after her first complaint in early 2019.

More generally, I have a hard time understanding why nearly every time a sexual assault is reported, people think it's a "convenient" time. When would be a good time?
 

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Wish I could say I was surprised by this. :( I really wish he'd run Independent, then we could at least try to maybe break this 2-party system. I guess I'd rather have Biden than Trump, probably. Well it depends on who he picks as his vice president actually, as in all likelihood he would be replaced since he's losing his mind. I don't think he'll win in any case, but I think Bernie would have a chance, even as an Independent.
 

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I'm not saying this necessarily means anything, but he didn't really endorse Biden. He simply said he'd be the Democratic nominee.

He DID say that they'd continue amassing delegates to have greater influence at the convention. I don't know what the rules are for running as an independent or how early he'd have to declare his candidacy, but I hope he keeps that as an option. If for no other reason than to scare Biden into making some promises.
 

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I came to this god awful subforum today to tell yall as someone who normally doesn't vote left I am really disappointed by this. I was really hoping he'd get the nomination this year honestly, I don't like any of the Dem candidates at all and I would rather see someone outside of the usual suspects on both sides propped up by the corrupt establishments that own them make it to the election. It's a real shame and has done nothing but further disillusion me, which is really saying something because I'm considered a tinfoil hat person already.
 

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Do you reckon Bernie will buy a second lake house after keeping everyone's donations?
 

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Such a lame criticism of him, the guy made some money selling a book and bought a vacation house. He never claimed people shouldn't be able to make money and become wealthy off their own work. He's been in politics his whole career and never taken money from big money interests, and in his 70s, he reached what, like $1.2 million? Because of a successful book? My grandma bought a lake house like 60 years ago when she had the money for it, we've been enjoying it my whole life. I see nothing wrong with buying a lake house with money you made off your own work. And there is no precedent whatsoever to suggest Bernie would keep campaign money for himself.
 

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I came to this god awful subforum today to tell yall as someone who normally doesn't vote left I am really disappointed by this. I was really hoping he'd get the nomination this year honestly, I don't like any of the Dem candidates at all and I would rather see someone outside of the usual suspects on both sides propped up by the corrupt establishments that own them make it to the election. It's a real shame and has done nothing but further disillusion me, which is really saying something because I'm considered a tinfoil hat person already.
if there's anyone left who isn't disillusioned in our political system by now, they're either part of the establishment or just hopelessly ambivalent.

Bernie is passionate and sincere, which is all I need, personally. Unfortunately, the masses need someone younger, better looking, preferably male to help the socialism medicine go down better. (Talking about the liberal masses here as Republicans clearly have no requirement on age or beauty) .

what would be really fucking fantastic would be if some of you center right populist/anti war types would join up with the Bernie bros and independents if he decides to run this fall. Trump is using you guys. As much as you like his personality and the way he trash talks all the people you hate, he isn't really doing shit for you. The economy was on the upswing since before he got there. All he does is tweet and play golf.
 

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if there's anyone left who isn't disillusioned in our political system by now, they're either part of the establishment or just hopelessly ambivalent.

Bernie is passionate and sincere, which is all I need, personally. Unfortunately, the masses need someone younger, better looking, preferably male to help the socialism medicine go down better. (Talking about the liberal masses here as Republicans clearly have no requirement on age or beauty) .

what would be really fucking fantastic would be if some of you center right populist/anti war types would join up with the Bernie bros and independents if he decides to run this fall. Trump is using you guys. As much as you like his personality and the way he trash talks all the people you hate, he isn't really doing shit for you. The economy was on the upswing since before he got there. All he does is tweet and play golf.
Believe me I'm not that into Trump either this go around. After seeing him bail all these businesses out I lost the tiny shred of faith I had in what he claimed he stood for (first time I've ever admitted to another person I voted for him because I want to have a real meaningful discussion here for once in my life). I supported him for the same reason I support Bernie, he was an outsider and he ran on the platform of supporting the average person and not a political party and did it believably. That one factor means more to me than left or right or anywhere in between. Like I said I was thoroughly disillusioned before, and am now somehow even more disappointed. Didn't think that was possible until today.

Hell I might've even came out for Bernie this year even after Hillary Clinton and the Left made a fool of me last election by taking him out when it suited them. I voted Bernie for the primary then that went down and I went with Trump for the election. I went with my principle despite how much of a fool he is.
 

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Such a lame criticism of him, the guy made some money selling a book and bought a vacation house. He never claimed people shouldn't be able to make money and become wealthy off their own work. He's been in politics his whole career and never taken money from big money interests, and in his 70s, he reached what, like $1.2 million? Because of a successful book? My grandma bought a lake house like 60 years ago when she had the money for it, we've been enjoying it my whole life. I see nothing wrong with buying a lake house with money you made off your own work. And there is no precedent whatsoever to suggest Bernie would keep campaign money for himself.
I've already taken Bernie apart in detail in this thread. Not gonna beat a dead horse.
He's a lying grifter who duped a lot of people. Lots more people realized it this time around, that's why he lost to Biden of all people... couldn't even beat a senile pedo.


Joe Rogan Would Vote For Trump Over Biden
 

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I've already taken Bernie apart in detail in this thread. Not gonna beat a dead horse.
He's a lying grifter who duped a lot of people. Lots more people realized it this time around, that's why he lost to Biden of all people... couldn't even beat a senile pedo.


Joe Rogan Would Vote For Trump Over Biden
I get where you're coming from but I don't think Biden beat him in any sense of the word. I think the DNC realized that he was actually gonna win with or without them this time and took him out forcibly somehow. Every liberal person I know came out for him in earnest this year and hates Biden, so Bernie dropping out this time stinks like shit to high heaven of some kind of blackmail or threat.
 

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Yeah I know a few Biden supporters, but almost everyone I know who isn't for Trump voted Bernie in the primary.
 

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Creepy Joe vs Trump
cage fight MMA

I'd buy it so long as only one came out alive, or winner versus coronavirus. Money's on coronavirus.
 

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People are having too much fun with Joe Biden's new 'I'm on Team Joe' avatar maker

The Joe Biden campaign has rolled out a new toy at avatar.joebiden.com and people are already having a lot of fun with it. All you have to do is upload a photo, add a catchy slogan, and —BOOM! — you’re on Team Joe.

We’re certain we missed lots of good ones, but they’re coming in so quickly it’s hard to keep up — forgive us if we missed yours.



















Those may be feeding the meme thread for the next 6 months.
 

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Kinda said that after 67 pages the nomination process is essentially over. The MSDNC has spoken. Our sacrificial lamb has been chosen.
 

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Now the race for VP nomination, no? It's great any qualified males will not be considered. Thank you identity politics.

In related news....

'The View' co-host to Stacey Abrams: Would it be 'slap in the face' for Biden not to pick black woman as VP?

"The View" co-host Sunny Hostin continued pushing the idea that former Vice President Joe Biden has an obligation to choose a black woman to serve as his running mate.

"Do you think that not choosing a woman of color -- a black woman, actually -- is a slap in the face to the black, female voters who are credited with really reviving his candidacy?" Hostin asked Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams.

The question came as Abrams touted herself as an "excellent" pick for vice president.
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"I [Abrams] would share your concern about not picking a woman of color because women of color, particularly black women, are the strongest part of the Democratic Party -- the most loyal, but that loyalty isn't simply how we vote, it's how we work," she added.
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Hostin previously argued that black women had "earned" a spot on Biden's ticket.

"As a lot of people say, the VP pick is — it isn’t an incentive. It’s a thank you, and I think it should be a thank you to black women," she said last week.

"I think black women are going to have to carry the load in this election like they always do. We are their strongest voting base, and half of black women live in states where I think they are going to obstruct the vote. I think there won’t be mail-in voting.

"So, that means that black women are going to have to risk their lives during this pandemic to vote. They’re going to have to bring their sons and their brothers and their fathers and risk their lives to vote," she argued, adding that Biden's campaign was pulled "out of the grave" due to African-American support in South Carolina.
Because nobody else is risking their lives during the pandemic to vote, I suppose? The View. I should expect this. I don't blame Abrams too much for this, she was asked the question.


Stacey Abrams thinks she would be 'an excellent running mate'

Stacey Abrams, the former minority leader for Georgia's House of Representatives and Democratic nominee in the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial election, spoke to Elle for a profile published Wednesday, in which she said she would be "honored" to run with Biden.

"I would be an excellent running mate," Abrams said. "I have the capacity to attract voters by motivating typically ignored communities. I have a strong history of executive and management experience in the private, public, and nonprofit sectors. I've spent 25 years in independent study of foreign policy. I am ready to help advance an agenda of restoring America's place in the world. If I am selected, I am prepared and excited to serve."

Biden last month pledged to pick a woman as his running mate, and he has floated Abrams as a possibility, last fall listing in a series of potential candidates "the woman who should have been the governor of Georgia." In fact, Axios reported back in March of last year that Biden advisers were debating whether he should, in an unconventional move, actually announce Abrams as his running mate right at the start of his campaign.
I love how fashion magazines like Elle and Vanity are now political outlets.
 
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