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Politics The 2020 Candidates: Right, Left and Center!

Xorkoth

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I spoke with my mom the other day, she was saying she's so glad Biden looks like he'll win the primary because she doesn't want another old man in charge and at least Biden said he'd pick a woman VP. I didn't really bother trying to explain my position on that to her but it shows how prevalent identity politics is.

There are some fine women candidates who would make great VPs and I'd be happy to have a woman VP or president. But I dislike how people disregard the qualifications for a president or vice president or any public office purely on the basis of ethnicity or gender or whatever other group.
 

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Biden also said that he would appoint an African American female to the Supreme Court.

That bothers me more than a VP pick. VP has always been basically a political/strategic choice. It used to be you picked someone because they were from a battleground state. Hilliary naively chose to continue that tradition even though it's proven to be ineffective in recent elections.

I hope Biden has someone advising him on this because I believe it will be the key to him winning if there's any chance of that at all. I'm fine with him nominating a woman...but he better make sure it's a progressive woman. If he doesn't nominate a progressive...one that can inspire people to have hope for the future, he will lose.
 

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Many people will vote for Biden "to try and stop Trump" even if they expose themselves as massive partisan hypocrites in the process.
I don't think I will. I had a bad taste in my mouth after voting Dem in 2016. If they won't let Bernie have the nomination, I certainly won't vote for Biden. I honestly don't know who I'll vote for... anyone but Biden.
 

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Getting to the point ...
I'm fine with him nominating a woman...but he better make sure it's a progressive woman. If he doesn't nominate a progressive...one that can inspire people to have hope for the future, he will lose.
Interesting angle. Who he noninates for VP will also be a statement to the Democratic base to either retain the Bernie Bro's leaning hard left or to drive them out, depending upon who is selected. My thinking is, Biden (and Bernie, and Trump) are older than dirt. BOTH parties need to be grooming future candidates, and Biden's VP ought to be more about the direction of the DNC than a simply grab for votes in this election, IMO.
 

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I think you are correct, I could be wrong when I say this but I still don’t see something that pulls me from the conservative side. The only thing that intrigued me by Bernie was legal marijuana.
Interesting angle. Who he noninates for VP will also be a statement to the Democratic base to either retain the Bernie Bro's leaning hard left or to drive them out, depending upon who is selected. My thinking is, Biden (and Bernie, and Trump) are older than dirt. BOTH parties need to be grooming future candidates, and Biden's VP ought to be more about the direction of the DNC than a simply grab for votes in this election, IMO.
 

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Interesting angle. Who he noninates for VP will also be a statement to the Democratic base to either retain the Bernie Bro's leaning hard left or to drive them out, depending upon who is selected. My thinking is, Biden (and Bernie, and Trump) are older than dirt. BOTH parties need to be grooming future candidates, and Biden's VP ought to be more about the direction of the DNC than a simply grab for votes in this election, IMO.
there may be no "future of the DNC" if Trump is elected again.

Biden needs the youth/latino/white progressive vote. They know it. They NEED a gifted speaker, one who can communicate a message of hope (even if it's a lie).
 

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Yeah I'm really done voting for any Dems if they snuff Bernie this year. And what's worse is, I think Hillary's campaign did actually snuff his... but all Biden has to do is say, "I'm the slightly less gross looking version of Trump... and fuck those Commie Reds!" and boom he won over the 'liberal' 'independents'. He's like 1% less conservative than Trump, it's absolutely disgusting.

I can't emphasize enough, FUCK Joe.
 

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Actually if the Democratic National Part (nominating committee) had thought this through they might have come up a win/win solution without all the drama.

By creating a Biden/Sanders (or Sanders/Biden) slate as Pres/ V P they could have consolidated the voting pull of both ends of the Party. If Trump is going to be beat it will need all the votes the Party could have generated, but istead they sniped at each other weakening both of their positions. Too late now, even if they they form a coalition the damage is done as they have mutually assassinated each other shattering the illusion of Party unity.
 

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What if all the old candidates die of corona and Gabbard is last man standing?
 

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And what's worse is, I think Hillary's campaign did actually snuff his...
the DNC openly admitted years ago that they rigged the 2016 primaries for Hillary, and argued in court that they have no responsibility to honor democracy or the will of the people

Biden can't win though, Republicans are already bringing the Hunter Biden shit back up, and nobody wants to vote for Biden only against trump (compared to the tens of millions of young voters, independents, progressives, and conservatives that want Bernie), and the election fraud Democrats are perpetuating to make Biden's nomination appear legitimate will be used against them to ensure trump's reelection, since the GOP is infinitely more skilled and experienced at rigging elections

Democrats would win by a landslide if they had fair, honest, transparent elections, and fought to ensure they stayed that way, but that would mean a Sanders presidency, and Democrats openly admit they prefer losing to trump than allowing us filthy peasants to have a say in how our government is run and how our taxes are spent

By creating a Biden/Sanders (or Sanders/Biden) slate as Pres/ V P they could have consolidated the voting pull of both ends of the Party.
Democrats don't want to win, they want to stop Bernie, they'll never allow Bernie as VP. Hillary is likely to be Biden's VP
 

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the DNC openly admitted years ago that they rigged the 2016 primaries for Hillary, and argued in court that they have no responsibility to honor democracy or the will of the people

Biden can't win though, Republicans are already bringing the Hunter Biden shit back up, and nobody wants to vote for Biden only against trump (compared to the tens of millions of young voters, independents, progressives, and conservatives that want Bernie), and the election fraud Democrats are perpetuating to make Biden's nomination appear legitimate will be used against them to ensure trump's reelection, since the GOP is infinitely more skilled and experienced at rigging elections

Democrats would win by a landslide if they had fair, honest, transparent elections, and fought to ensure they stayed that way, but that would mean a Sanders presidency, and Democrats openly admit they prefer losing to trump than allowing us filthy peasants to have a say in how our government is run and how our taxes are spent
It hurts me inside my soul, to know how truthfully you speak. Ugh.
 

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the DNC openly admitted years ago that they rigged the 2016 primaries for Hillary, and argued in court that they have no responsibility to honor democracy or the will of the people

Biden can't win though, Republicans are already bringing the Hunter Biden shit back up, and nobody wants to vote for Biden only against trump (compared to the tens of millions of young voters, independents, progressives, and conservatives that want Bernie), and the election fraud Democrats are perpetuating to make Biden's nomination appear legitimate will be used against them to ensure trump's reelection, since the GOP is infinitely more skilled and experienced at rigging elections

Democrats would win by a landslide if they had fair, honest, transparent elections, and fought to ensure they stayed that way, but that would mean a Sanders presidency, and Democrats openly admit they prefer losing to trump than allowing us filthy peasants to have a say in how our government is run and how our taxes are spent


Democrats don't want to win, they want to stop Bernie, they'll never allow Bernie as VP. Hillary is likely to be Biden's VP
I wish I could disagree, but you're 100% right. :\
 
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