Yeah you're right. LD50 for 2-FA in rats is 100mg/kg, roughly twice that of amphetamine at 55mg/kg. Also the wikipedia article does confirm it has analgesic effects.Surprisingly, this has apparently been researched as far back as 1970. It has an LD50 and everything. Does anyone know more about this beyond what I'm seeing on Wikipedia, or maybe have access to scientific articles I don't?
"Blown out my dopamine" is nonsensical gibberish from a neurological standpoint, can't you leave the speculation on neurochemistry to those who have some kind of grasp on the subject, even a basic one, rather than spout your pseudo-scientific idiotic bullshit? Sick of people on this forum learning what the words "dopamine" and "serotonin" mean and then assuming they have a detailed grasp on the brain mechanisms that drugs work on and then spouting their stupid nonsense speculation in an attempt to sound intelligent.Thought Id quickly write up my experiences with it just before new years.
Took it the first time a cpl weeks before new year. Fucking loved the smooth effects and barely noticeable comedown. To me its almost identical in effects to good amphetamine without the shitty side effects. 20mgs or so in a few dabs then a few more redoses into the evening.
Second time wasnt so pleasant...and caused me to do one of my 'swearing myself off drugs' dumping out everything into the toilet .
So feeling more confident and foolhardly in hindsight- next time was friday before NYE. I ended up going out to one bar on NYE and when they refused entry for being full I just gave up and went home. I began on 50mg this time which gave a great push on the comeup. Lovely. Since it was early afternoon I cracked into a drinking session as you do on stims and kept redosing thru into the evening till I went out about 12. I prob did about 200 mgs in all.
Thing is this dosing wasnt THAT much higher than the first time but the difference was that I was really caning the alcohol. I had half a bottle of wine in still but quickly finished and feeling overconfident I thought it was time to get something more meaty/cost effective so I went to the shop and bought a bottle of rum and coke.
This, or rather my lack of restraint consuming it, proved to be a bad idea since about only an hour or two after I was through about half the bottle.
Around this time the 2-fa started wearing off and due to the increased tolerance diminishing I suddenly began getting a banging headache and feeling severe dehydration and even some shakes. I was really freezing and had turned my heating up but was still freezing. I also was beginning to get strong boughts of nausea tho I didnt chug. My brain also suddenly was in dysphoria like it felt Id hit the gas too hard and blown out my dopamine. So starting to feel a bit worried I began downing water furiously which seemed to subside the nausea and general bad feelings. So I drank furiously for around an hour or more probably amassing around 4-5 litres of water. I had a 1 liter bottle and just kept filling it and drinking it till empty in a matter of minutes.
The nausea passed but the following 3 days I had an awful comedown. I could most describe it to a mephedrone comedown in terms of the negative effects- lethargy and insomnia for 3 days. At the end of the first day I was strung out and swearing myself off drugs and so threw out my remaining supply of etizolam and also zopiclone which I received from the doctors resolving that I must now live a clean life and never use drugs again. Man I so fucking hated that decision come the 2nd/3rd nights into my insomnia . I finally got sleep on the 3rd with some promethazine.
After the 1st day I was falsely attributing the lethargy and zombified state to the etizolam I took one or two to sleep on the 1st night but when it carried on for days after I realized it must have been cos I blew out my dopamine. I was even refusing to take l tyrosine supplements thinking they were still 'not natural' until I could eventually bear the suffering no longer and so began downing the tyrosine. Within 20 minutes this had given immediate relief (tho wore off within an hour or so making me redose again) thus also indicating Id blown out my dopamine.
Oh yes I also forgot to mention that both times induced characteristic epic stimulant wanking sessions. I hate these as they feel good at the time but I feel like a total idiot having wasted 4+ hours of my time when Im suddenly not high any more and Im laying on the floor of my room naked in a pool of my own sweat and my dick in my hand. Anyone know how to avoid these? Im thinking either adding in some serotonin to the mix or maybe weed- I have a dull recollection that weed would curb these urges on coke whilst giving a fantastic wrapped in cotton wool type high which synergised with the coke. I know that downers will stop it as I took etizolam to finally stop myself one night but still that also kills the high so Id like a way to enjoy the high while still high while preventing the wanking impulsivity. Im thinking giving the synthetic cannabinoids a go in such a case.
Now in hindsight and having got over my ordeal I am wary of this but still recall the high as being so smooth and excellent and the first time that it was very easy on the body. If it necessarily caused such comedowns Id steer well clear but Im interested to hear from others at lower doses if this can be avoided. Im thinking it could tho would like to hear other's opinions before I take another go at it- as well as advise on how I'd prevent a repeat of the above. I think just dosing lower and not drinking so much- maybe adding something else in (ie cannabinoid) to keep me on a more even keel.
I know this was posted over two months ago, but having tried that combo I can tell you that it feels nothing like a substituted cathinone. Great combo though, very euphoric and psychedelic. The 2-fa helps get you moving without causing huge spikes in your vitals or overstimulating, but then again I find 6-apdb pretty sedating, as is usually the case with me with these MDA analogues.I'm finding 3-MMC substitutions.
How about 2-FA + 6-APDB combo?
Did anyone try this combo?
Most seem to agree 2fa and 2fma are solid chems. I only have minor experience with 2FA, but I was using 2FMA almost daily for about a year. 2FA was a lot more like amphetamine to me, more speed-like, and when snorted it burned like crazy.So, what's the latest on 2-FA?
I'm interested in self-treatment for ADHD-like symptoms. I'm diagnosed with ADHD but it would be a lot of hassle to get a prescription for Adderal or similar amphetamine because of an a-hole psychiatrist. Methylphenidate only makes me manic, and I don't think I could get a prescription anyway.
So I'm thinking about a low dose 2-FA course, 10-20 mg split during the day, for 2 months to evaluate if it helps. It is very hard to get clean speed around here, especially with all the RCs being used for cutting.
Any consensus on long term side effects, 5HT2b agonism, toxicity, metabolism?