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Dissociatives Super potent salvia analogue

polarthedog

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Man i appreciate that you're trying to help but i hope nobody reading this thread actually heeds to your advice. 50-100mg diphenhydramine??? WTF man 25mg is enough to put people to sleep, 50mg is enough even if i have strong insomnia and you want to push the dosage to 100mg where the anticholinergic effects start to show? and then you want to add weed which will either make u sleepy (low dosage) or trippy in an uncomfortable way (high dosages). And then you want to smoothen it with diazepam? Not to mention the basic combo DXM + tryptamine (both serotonergic drugs, which actually do have cross-tolerance). So your idea of having a good trip is combining 5 different drugs? You know what's actually the best combination to smoothen psychedellics or even stimulants: phenibut. i have tried it numerous times and it never fails to deliver.

But enough about derailing the thread with talk about tripping, i'm here for salvia analogues.
I take 75 mg to sleep every night, I mean if you’re that sensitive, then Ya take less. People mix dissociatives and tryptamines, I’ve done this mixture more time so than I can count, right now I’m on 50 mg Benadryl 600 mg gabapentin, 150 mcg buprenorphine, about 12 grams of kratom, and 300 mg of dxm instant release
I’m not dying lol. And yes, when I trip on mescaline or really any hallucinogens, I always mix a bunch of different drugs with it. I mean I could compare drugs to a sandwich. I’m not gonna be happy with just bread, or just cheese, or just lettuce, or just ham, I mean Iwoud enjoy them aon their own, but why not put them together and make a sandwich
 

polarthedog

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I’ve taken 8 different drugs at once before, that really what I’m addicted to I guess, mixing everything together, if you don’t like my advice, then don’t follow it.
 

polarthedog

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in Fact, I wish I had some dmt and ketamine right now, oh and 10 mg of Valium, if i wasn’t on remeron I’d take 50 mcg of clonidine.
 

youarethebest

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the thing is you either smoke plain leaf in a pipe or a level 4 dose
plain leaf in pipe you can smoke several tokes
then it will be like it's all dandy
max dose is level 4 with 5 NOT DEATH OR AMNESIA LEVEL
I say death because amnesia is unconscious
there is so much proof that death it to be avoided
like that too miaw happy trails
 

youarethebest

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the best thing is to know your dose
you dose smaller than ideal
then titrate up
when you get to level 5 don't smoke more
level 4 or 5 that is your dose
and low doses are valid too smoked in a pipe for example plain leaf
but when you get the max dose level 4 or 5 stop doing more know the dose in weight
enjoy in a pipe or joint
it's that simple
more is screwing up and screwing yourself up
in a way
as in dead people are very sick people
 

pupnik

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I like plain leaf in a pipe if I want a smoke that has a bit of a brain twist to it.

since discovering salvia, I always thought this is what Alice's hookah smoking caterpillar was up to (salvia not weed)

for a plain leaf smoke the flavor is very nice
 

RhythmSpring

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dear me, you can smoke less and have a very good effect.
you have shown a comparison, but you did not indicate how much you smoked of what strength (particularly how many ug's of salvinorin A are we talking)

from the literature (over several years of being salvia enthusiast) most people go for 1mg salvinorin A because that is what Siebert claims to have vaporized - they discuss filling bowls with 20x which is probably 2 or 3 mg, or 2000micrograms of salvinorin A - these users go all the way to level 6 barely touching 1 2 3 4 and 5.
I think they are nuts. they miss the best part.
I only smoke between 250 and 350 micrograms of pure salvinorinA previously laid on cigarette paper giving level 4 and occasionally level 5.
I get the same effect from about 1/2 of a large dried leaf, so people who are smoking a bowl of 20x are smoking about 10 leaves concentrated down to one bowl which is more than the recommended. amount - approximately 2500 micrograms of salvinorin-A.

For a quid it is 'officially' recommended to use 12 pairs of large leaves (or more) which again is around 3500 micrograms of Salvinorin-A

this is between 50 to 100 times what I use when I smoke. (leaf content might vary between 2 and 5 mg Salvinorin- A per leaf.) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7913753/

getting a grip on your preferred dose is the first lesson to learn if you want to know this drug. One size does not fit all.
Point taken. ROA makes a difference, but so does dosage. Less is more!
 

youarethebest

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yah and the smell
same with dmt you'd love it
even better
much better
some of the best smell and taste
 
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