TL;DR - I've only plenty of occasions(20ish, so good sample size and it seems to always be the case) take Subs while lying in bed, before I wake up(I pop the strip and lie down for another 20-30 mins and let it sit there while I relax a little longer in bed, I always seem to have the Sub/saliva mix still in my mouth, sometimes I don't even fall asleep fully so I can tell I don't swallow it)...and find that doing this causes the Sub to have diminished effects and for some reason not give me the usual energy and anti-depressive effects that the sub typically gives me.
Pretty simple issue. Some days I wake up and I don't have to get up for at least 30 more minutes(or at all if I don't have work, so just want to lie in bed a little while longer) instead of getting up. Typically I wake up and if I'm working I pop my dose and take a shower, but the time I am done with that and dressed it's had plenty of time to adsorb. Otherwise I'll get up and pop the Sub, the sit up in bed and read for about 25-30 mins. Maybe little overkill with how long I let it adsorb, but I figure can't be a bad thing.
On the days I don't decide to just let it sit in my mouth while I lie in bed - and this has happened plenty of times, well into double digits I would say - I seem to wake up and not get the same effects that I usually get from the Suboxone. I will feel sluggish, depressed, bored, etc. Usually once the Sub kicks in, which is about an hour for me, I start to go feel awake and upbeat.
Now I know I am not swallowing the Sub, while I am letting is dissolve while I sleep, because I wake up with a mouth full of it and still can taste that follow after taste once the orange taste fades away. I actually did this the last 2 days and both days I was very much depressed and not my usual self on the Subs, I find it kind of odd. I wonder if it has to do with my blood pressure and also how circulation works while lying in bed sleeping, as opposed to once you have awoken. Maybe not enough blood is reaching the peripheral areas of the body(in this case the veins under the tongue don't adsorb enough of the medication).
It's odd, yesterday I popped my dose and lay in bed for set phone timer for 20 minutes with it in my mouth. When it went off I still had the Sub/saliva mix in my mouth, I only half dozed off, I then set the alarm for 10 more mins to let it adsorb some more and then once that went off I swallowed the mixture. I then set phone timer for another 25 or 30 mins and after that I finally got up. I felt fine at this point because the Subs had its hour to kick in and I was feeling decent. still groggy from waking up but in 15 minutes a coffee fixed that. Still, I never felt good like I do for about 1.5-2 hours after I take my Sub in the morning(after that I just feel not sick, I guess normal would be a good way to term it). Today did the same thing as yesterday, but instead of sleeping that extra 30 mins I got up, so still had about 30 mins form when I woke for Sub to kick in. Yet again, it was a lackluster effect from the Subs, not my usual. I was depressed, felt worn down, just not my normal self on the Subs.
I'll repeat, this is not just the last 2 days, I have extensive history of Sub use and fidn that everytime I take it like that (letting it adsorb while lying in bed) it just seems to drag down my whole day. I know simple answer to the problem, don't do that. But, can anyone explain why this would be the case. It really makes little sense, aside form humans being creatures of habit and messing with sleep cycles combined with psychoactive meds can cause them to not work as well. Also does anyone else like to let the Subs adsorb while in bed and then get up and not have to wait that 30-60 mins to feel ready to go in the morning? Or has anyone tried it and felt the same or opposite effects I have felt?
P.S. - Sorry I didn't put this in the megathread and move it there if you wish, but I don't want it buried under a question that post-cedes it in the thread and steals any attention my post gets. Or I post in the middle of a active discussion in the megathread, so it ends up being ignored and ultimately buried under other posts.
Pretty simple issue. Some days I wake up and I don't have to get up for at least 30 more minutes(or at all if I don't have work, so just want to lie in bed a little while longer) instead of getting up. Typically I wake up and if I'm working I pop my dose and take a shower, but the time I am done with that and dressed it's had plenty of time to adsorb. Otherwise I'll get up and pop the Sub, the sit up in bed and read for about 25-30 mins. Maybe little overkill with how long I let it adsorb, but I figure can't be a bad thing.
On the days I don't decide to just let it sit in my mouth while I lie in bed - and this has happened plenty of times, well into double digits I would say - I seem to wake up and not get the same effects that I usually get from the Suboxone. I will feel sluggish, depressed, bored, etc. Usually once the Sub kicks in, which is about an hour for me, I start to go feel awake and upbeat.
Now I know I am not swallowing the Sub, while I am letting is dissolve while I sleep, because I wake up with a mouth full of it and still can taste that follow after taste once the orange taste fades away. I actually did this the last 2 days and both days I was very much depressed and not my usual self on the Subs, I find it kind of odd. I wonder if it has to do with my blood pressure and also how circulation works while lying in bed sleeping, as opposed to once you have awoken. Maybe not enough blood is reaching the peripheral areas of the body(in this case the veins under the tongue don't adsorb enough of the medication).
It's odd, yesterday I popped my dose and lay in bed for set phone timer for 20 minutes with it in my mouth. When it went off I still had the Sub/saliva mix in my mouth, I only half dozed off, I then set the alarm for 10 more mins to let it adsorb some more and then once that went off I swallowed the mixture. I then set phone timer for another 25 or 30 mins and after that I finally got up. I felt fine at this point because the Subs had its hour to kick in and I was feeling decent. still groggy from waking up but in 15 minutes a coffee fixed that. Still, I never felt good like I do for about 1.5-2 hours after I take my Sub in the morning(after that I just feel not sick, I guess normal would be a good way to term it). Today did the same thing as yesterday, but instead of sleeping that extra 30 mins I got up, so still had about 30 mins form when I woke for Sub to kick in. Yet again, it was a lackluster effect from the Subs, not my usual. I was depressed, felt worn down, just not my normal self on the Subs.
I'll repeat, this is not just the last 2 days, I have extensive history of Sub use and fidn that everytime I take it like that (letting it adsorb while lying in bed) it just seems to drag down my whole day. I know simple answer to the problem, don't do that. But, can anyone explain why this would be the case. It really makes little sense, aside form humans being creatures of habit and messing with sleep cycles combined with psychoactive meds can cause them to not work as well. Also does anyone else like to let the Subs adsorb while in bed and then get up and not have to wait that 30-60 mins to feel ready to go in the morning? Or has anyone tried it and felt the same or opposite effects I have felt?
P.S. - Sorry I didn't put this in the megathread and move it there if you wish, but I don't want it buried under a question that post-cedes it in the thread and steals any attention my post gets. Or I post in the middle of a active discussion in the megathread, so it ends up being ignored and ultimately buried under other posts.
Thank you for the willingness to do the “team player” thang