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Benzos Splitting Xanax XR

Riri26

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My doctor told me I can split my Xanax XR but the pharmacist said I can’t and it’s dangerous. I’m so confused and in general I’m a panicky person, obviously, so I’m just not sure what I’m supposed to do. I tried to take the whole thing but it’s just waaaay too much for me especially during the day. Thanks!
 

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Of course you can split it. You can break any xanax down to dust if you want.

Don't listen to pharmacists...they count pills for a living.

Its actually best to take the LEAST amount of xanax you need. Your doctor should be scripting you lower increments, though.

I personally haven't found much difference between XR and normal. Certainly break them down to the smallest amount you think your body requires.
 
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hydroazuanacaine

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pharmacist is probably saying that because er pills come with a warning that tampering with them can negate their er mechanism. unfortunately this is usually not the case to any significance.
 

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They are extended release. The outer coating is what controls the extended release. Once tampered with (or cut) the extended release mechanism is no longer active. This results in an increased rate of drug delivery in a shorter space of time. Given the quick action and short half life of Alprozalam (Xanax) it would mean dosing more often. The extended release function is designed to deliver the drug over a longer period. Normal Xanax (Alprozalam) will act faster but the therapeutic effect will be of shorter duration.

If taking an entire pill feels too much for you then the doctor should be putting you on a lower dose as opposed to encouraging you to cut the extended release tablet. Never heard of a physician making such a recommendation.

What dosage in mg are we talking about here for the sake on interest?
 

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They are extended release. The outer coating is what controls the extended release. Once tampered with (or cut) the extended release mechanism is no longer active. This results in an increased rate of drug delivery in a shorter space of time. Given the quick action and short half life of Alprozalam (Xanax) it would mean dosing more often. The extended release function is designed to deliver the drug over a longer period. Normal Xanax (Alprozalam) will act faster but the therapeutic effect will be of shorter duration.

If taking an entire pill feels too much for you then the doctor should be putting you on a lower dose as opposed to encouraging you to cut the extended release tablet. Never heard of a physician making such a recommendation.

What dosage in mg are we talking about here for the sake on interest?
They’re 1mg tablets. I’ve been taking benzodiazepines for years but in smaller doses. Usually .5-1mg Ativan a day.
 

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A pill splitter available at any pharmacy does a fine job of splitting alprazolam xr. I'm Rx'd 4mg/day and often only take 3.5mg/day if I don't feel the need for my full dose and to build up a bit of a surplus for really bad days. FWIW, I get 1mg Aurobindo pills now that are yellow with an "x" on one side and "73" on the other.

At my dose, I don't have to worry about my level getting too low under most circumstances. I'd be careful with lowering your dose if you dont have a dose sufficient to keep it in your system for the full time you need it. Mine are supposed to be taken 1mg p.o. 4x/day and they're supposed to last 12 hours, so even if I take a lower dose, I'll have alprazolam in my system all 24 hours of the day even with a slightly reduced dose.
 

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They’re 1mg tablets. I’ve been taking benzodiazepines for years but in smaller doses. Usually .5-1mg Ativan a day.
Good to hear about such low dosages and having stuck with that for years.

I am not your GP. But I too take between 1mg and 2mg of Alprozalam per day and usually only late afternoon or night. About seven months now (this time around anyway). For what it’s worth: the initial, let’s call it, overwhelming feeling (for want of a better word) does not last that long (few days or nights at most as does the morning hangover). But never had extended release.

I don’t think you’re in any trouble though or have anything to worry about. If you’re uncomfortable then I’d say to get normal Alprozalam either at a lower dosage (minimum is 0.25mg and those you can combine or 1mg which you can cut in half no problem i.e. easier to control) or lower dose Xanax XR.
 

Riri26

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A pill splitter available at any pharmacy does a fine job of splitting alprazolam xr. I'm Rx'd 4mg/day and often only take 3.5mg/day if I don't feel the need for my full dose and to build up a bit of a surplus for really bad days. FWIW, I get 1mg Aurobindo pills now that are yellow with an "x" on one side and "73" on the other.

At my dose, I don't have to worry about my level getting too low under most circumstances. I'd be careful with lowering your dose if you dont have a dose sufficient to keep it in your system for the full time you need it. Mine are supposed to be taken 1mg p.o. 4x/day and they're supposed to last 12 hours, so even if I take a lower dose, I'll have alprazolam in my system all 24 hours of the day even with a slightly reduced dose.
I’m not worried about my levels dropping. I’m always been on low doses of benzodiazepines. Splitting them
Is tough. They’re these yellow 1mg ones that are odd shaped with a G on them. Cutting them is a real pain but I do what I have to. Thank you.
 

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Good to hear about such low dosages and having stuck with that for years.

I am not your GP. But I too take between 1mg and 2mg of Alprozalam per day and usually only late afternoon or night. About seven months now (this time around anyway). For what it’s worth: the initial, let’s call it, overwhelming feeling (for want of a better word) does not last that long (few days or nights at most as does the morning hangover). But never had extended release.

I don’t think you’re in any trouble though or have anything to worry about. If you’re uncomfortable then I’d say to get normal Alprozalam either at a lower dosage (minimum is 0.25mg and those you can combine or 1mg which you can cut in half no problem i.e. easier to control) or lower dose Xanax XR.
Yeah. My doc just won’t be give me a lower dose because she said she can’t give me another prescription until next month or she’ll get red flagged.
 

dalpat077

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Yeah. My doc just won’t be give me a lower dose because she said she can’t give me another prescription until next month or she’ll get red flagged.
Sounds like you have a decent GP there. Not the overzealous type. Those types have gotten more than a few in trouble with these things (myself included some many years ago but managed to taper off from what had become a pretty extreme dosage and all good for at least ten years now) (only started on them again this year in an effort to keep my shit together when COVID started) (but now have a lot of respect for the little wonders having learned a good lesson back then). Benzodiazepines wonderful meds. if not over prescribed or abused.
 

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Sounds like you have a decent GP there. Not the overzealous type. Those types have gotten more than a few in trouble with these things (myself included some many years ago but managed to taper off from what had become a pretty extreme dosage and all good for at least ten years now) (only started on them again this year in an effort to keep my shit together when COVID started) (but now have a lot of respect for the little wonders having learned a good lesson back then). Benzodiazepines wonderful meds. if not over prescribed or abused.
I don’t even really like the benzodiazepines. I never understood people who really enjoyed them. Im taking more now because I’ve been really sick the last two months due to lithium complications. I’m hoping to taper back down when I feel better.
 

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I don’t even really like the benzodiazepines. I never understood people who really enjoyed them. Im taking more now because I’ve been really sick the last two months due to lithium complications. I’m hoping to taper back down when I feel better.
Me neither i.e. not my idea of a category of pharma. with recreational value. But each to their own. Fascinating stuff though (benzodiazepines). Developed more than a keen interest in their pharmacological actions since my own little stint of unintentional and unknown dependence and subsequent tapering. They serve a purpose. And well too. But they're a means to an end as opposed to being a permanent solution to an underlying problem. Personal opinion of course (but which nevertheless based on personal experience and years of subsequent armchair research).

Sorry to hear that you've been really sick due to lithium complications. Not something I'm familiar with to be honest. Never been on my radar. Sure been around a long time though. For the hell of it I just did a quick read through on Wikipedia on the topic. The side effects, and their commonality in patients, sure don't sound pleasant. Interesting to read that it was put into a soft drink called "Bib-Label Lithiated Lemon-Lime Soda". Never knew about that. Always find shit like that interesting. Sorry. I just have that kind of mind! :ROFLMAO:

Anyway. I hope you feel better. Benzodiazepine taper (on its own anyway) isn't necessarily the most difficult problem in life to have to deal with (not for somebody who doesn't particularly like them that's for sure). And if nothing else: there's piles of information and good advice on the topic here anyway (and some of which I'm prepared to go so far as to say is better advice than may be provided by the medical fraternity and who have never experienced physical dependence on them) (if it ever comes to that).
 

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They are extended release. The outer coating is what controls the extended release. Once tampered with (or cut) the extended release mechanism is no longer active. This results in an increased rate of drug delivery in a shorter space of time. Given the quick action and short half life of Alprozalam (Xanax) it would mean dosing more often. The extended release function is designed to deliver the drug over a longer period. Normal Xanax (Alprozalam) will act faster but the therapeutic effect will be of shorter duration.

If taking an entire pill feels too much for you then the doctor should be putting you on a lower dose as opposed to encouraging you to cut the extended release tablet. Never heard of a physician making such a recommendation.

What dosage in mg are we talking about here for the sake on interest?

Sorry 😐However this is misinformation. If this were true, cutting an old school OxyContin or Mscontin would make it IR

The entire pill is designed in such a way to delay drug delivery 📦. The pharmacist is just plain wrong. Despite their schooling, pharmacists know very little about pharmacology except the rare ones who study it independently - Trust me, pharmaceutical school does not teach any meaningful pharmacology. I dropped out yet know more than any pharmacist I have ever encountered

One thought Benzodiazepine wd was not lethal (so did a PA...)

Anyway you can break it in half, although 0.5mg ER is almost nothing

Whatever works for you though! 😎
 

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Sorry 😐However this is misinformation. If this were true, cutting an old school OxyContin or Mscontin would make it IR

The entire pill is designed in such a way to delay drug delivery 📦. The pharmacist is just plain wrong. Despite their schooling, pharmacists know very little about pharmacology except the rare ones who study it independently - Trust me, pharmaceutical school does not teach any meaningful pharmacology. I dropped out yet know more than any pharmacist I have ever encountered
But I read it on the Internet. It must be right (true)! :unsure:

On a serious note though: you're quite correct. And my apologies for the misinformation (technically speaking that is). To be clear: there's EXTENDED release and TIME release. And I got the two mixed up. See below for a pretty good summation of the difference between the two. But do note that it is INDEED possible for the coating of a pill to be the controlled release mechanism (matrix).

The above all being said: you'll still be hard pressed to find a pill manufacturer or medical professional that will encourage the cutting of EXTENDED release pills. That ALSO being said: it's not encouraged UNLESS the pill has a line or indent along which it can be cut.

And ALL of the above being said: I have to admit that when I first read up on all of this stuff I did have to ask myself just how much of a difference it would make anyway if you cut an EXTENDED release pill in half e.g. Tramadol ER (cannot remember if the had a line or indent in the middle though).

This post probably WAY more than anybody wanted to know. But it's there for reference anyway,

Anyway. As always. Thanks for jumping in and correcting and sharing.


"Is extended-release the same as time-release?

The terms extended-release, time-release, delayed–release, and sustained-release are often used interchangeably; however, these terms can have slightly different meanings.

Time-release medications are drugs that are released slowly over time within the body rather than all at once. This enables a sustained or delayed action within the body, making sure that the individual doesn’t get too much of the drug at once or doesn’t get it right away. The opposite of time-release, as described above, is immediate-release, where the full dose is available to the body immediately after taking the drug.

According to the Food and Drug Administration, the two main concepts behind time-release medications are delayed-release and extended-release. Delayed-release medications are usually coated with a substance that keeps the drug from dissolving until after it has passed through the damaging digestive juices in the stomach; this is done because sometimes the drug can be damaged by digestion. On the other hand, extended-release medicines involve the medicine being mixed into a matrix that dissolves slowly over time, making sure both that the person doesn’t get too much of the substance at once and that the amount being released stays relatively constant over time."



and


"Why are some pills coated or in capsule form?

As described by Health.com, there are a variety of reasons that medicines might be coated or put in capsules. One reason is that coated drugs are simply easier for some people to swallow; however, the main reasons are a little more complex than that.

In some cases, medicines might harm the lining of the stomach. Aspirin is one of these that can cause digestive damage. Therefore, aspirin is often coated or placed in a capsule so it will not be released until after it passes through the stomach, so it won’t do damage.

In the opposite case, some drugs can be damaged by the stomach acid produced during digestion. To avoid losing potency of the medication, these drugs are coated or placed in capsules to delay release of the medication until after the drug has passed through these harmful acids.

Finally, some coatings or capsules are made of a matrix that prevents the drug from being released immediately. As the coating or capsule slowly dissolves, small amounts of the medication are released so the individual gets a sustained dose over time."



Taken from here (but there's loads of sites confirming the above) (sadly the best/technical ones are those that require a subscription in order to access the complete technical documents):

 

Lorne???

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^ It appears the main reason they coat it is to get it into the GI tract safely

Though you are right it *sometimes* contributes

Anyway Thank You for taking that in stride and not throwing a fit like some people

I cannot remember if Xanax Xr have a line; I doubt it.

If we were talking about 3mg tablets it might be one thing, however you can easily cut 40-60% of the tablet and get the desired dose. Just my humble opinion
 

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Anyway Thank You for taking that in stride and not throwing a fit like some people
Hey. No. I thank you for pointing out factually incorrect information in such a decent, gentlemanly, and professional manner. It's the way it should be. If somebody is wrong on something then they're wrong and on a site such of this there's no room for error (or at least there shouldn't be).
 

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There is no harm to splitting Xanax XR into two or three. because I have seen my friend doing this as consult by his doctor. If it had dangerous then why would his doctor suggested splitting the tablet.

Also, FYI! Xanax XR form has a more powerful component rather than Xanax IR therefore doctor provides a single limited dose of it and tells not to take another pill within 24 hours.

If you don't trust my words you can simply google about it or read the informative article here on **** URL to Drug Sales Web Sited Deleted *** or on any other authentic sites. Thank me later!;)
You are starting to annoy me. And I'm now reporting your post. Do you really think we're all so dumb around here?
 
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Shelly I've edited two of your posts that contain URLs to web sites that sell drugs. We don''t do that on Bluelight.

Please stop posting Drug sales site URLs and remove the URL from your BIO. Thanks !
 

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It's about harm reduction, not links to drugs sales.

Thanks for understanding, I hope you get something positive from your visit here.

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