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⫸STICKY⫷ Six Simple Rules... To MDMA

Can anyone confirm the validity of taking Alpha Lipoic Acid during a roll to reduce neurotoxicity? I guess we need more research.

Also, 5-HTP post-roll seems like a commonly accepted method to reduce the hangover.

And while 1 month between rolls may be enough for some people, Anne Shulgin recommended only taking MDMA 4 times per year (so 3 month breaks) to retain the "magic".
Alexander Shulgin was right about taking it only 4 times a year (or less)
The diminished euphoria and increasing tolerance which means users take more and more in and effort to get the same euphoria, which in truth is more just the amphetamine properties of the mdma they are enjoying more than the true empathetic brain fuelled loved up high , shows that it really is a good idea to wait between uses.
A pattern ive noticed over the years is that some ravers will no longer take mdma if its not 'worth it' and will save their drug and experience for festivals or big headliner events , so without even being aware of this suggestion of taking it months apart or more, they do it anyway.
 
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2 MAJOR RULES make sure it's REAL and second make sure you take the right supplements ----IT WORKS GREAT!!!!:drama:8:)heart3:
 
I have one major rule: It is nearly impossible to find real MDMA. I can et pretty much any drug imaginable, except MDMA.

I do have some lessor rules: Avoid alcohol and don't take it very often (someone said 4 times a year...that sounds about right),
 
Any truth in the chicken wings theroy??

As in should you eat it a few days before rolling to get extra serotonin sensation?
 
Not too happy that you used the word "threashold" with the amount of 100mg. I know you are talking about "street grade" MDMA and not pure but being that other reputable sites list the threashold dose as mcuh lower than this is going to add to confusion about dosing. granted they are talking pure MDMA and here you are talking in general terms.

I think it would be more accurate to give the 100mg dose a more general description than likening it to a real threashold dose. maybe you should call it a "good starter dose" rather than a threashold.
I agree 100. I use pure crystal/powder MDMA and get great effects from dosages as low as 50mg. (I weigh 200lb)
 
Six Simple Rules… To MDMA


MDMA is 3,4-methylenedioxy-n-methylamphetamine, an empathogenic drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine drug classes.

Ecstasy is commonly used to describe mdma, specifically in pill form. Other drugs are also commonly sold in pill form as 'ecstacy' in an attempt to rip off the buyer.

1. Dosage
It is generally accepted that around 100mg is a good starter dose
. However, more accurately you should dose around 1mg-2mg per kg weight. These are guidelines and the dose you should take will be affected by the factors listed below. Where on this dosage scale you choose will depend on your age, weight, height, gender, wether you've got an empty/full stomach, the intensity of experience wanted and tolerance to the drug. The purity/quality of your MDMA will also come into it. More experienced users may also want take more, it is up to the individual.

Warning: It is not advised to take MDMA whilst on SSRI medication, as it may negate the effects of the MDMA completley. Taking MAOIs with MDMA can be FATAL. It is not advised that you stop taking prescribed medication to consume MDMA

Example

I am a 6ft4 male who weighs 90kg and I dose at 200mg+ a redose of ~100mg half an hour later. This dose would be considered high for many, but is more suitable to somebody my height and weight, as well as my experience with the drug.

Example
I would suggest a 6ft male weighing 77kg dose at 100-150mg+ a redose of around 40% of the original dose, depending on their experience with the drug. Females should take less. There are many variables that affect dosage, so it is difficult to say with any certainty what any one individual should take.

If you are relatively new to MDMA I would suggest hitting the lower end of the dosage range, otherwise the experience may be too intense.

2. Re-dosing
The extent to which you are negatively affected by re-dosing, on a chemical basis, is that you are trying to flood your brain with more serotonin after much of it has already been used up. Further research needs to be conducted into these effects, but it is claimed that the risks range from: depression after the comedown, serotonin syndrome, increased risk of inability to sleep after dosing to merely being overwhelmed by the effects.

MDMA works on a diminishing returns basis; the more you take the less you will get out of each dose.

3. Keeping Safe – Test Your Product
With the recent surge of fake pills and bunk MDMA crystal being sold these days it is very important you test your product first. You can get a test kit for relatively little cost. It's well worth piece of mind.

MDMA is often replaced by similar chemicals such as Methylone, or nasty chemicals such as PMA or Piperazines which can cause serious damage to your health. At best, these chemicals will not produce the MDMA experience and you will be left disappointed.

A Google search for ""ecstasy testing kit or "mdma test kit" will provide you with many relevant results. if you are having trouble understanding the options, consider these popular sources:

Based in Australia: www.ecstasypilltest.com
Based in the US: www.dancesafe.org
Based in Europe: www.eztest.com

4. Keeping Safe – Hydration and Over Heating
It is important to keep hydrated when dancing on MDMA. You are unlikely to realise or pay much attention to yourself sweating buckets, but that water needs to be replaced. It is also vital you do not then decide to drown yourself with your water intake; keep a small bottle with you at all times and remember: “Sippy-sippy”, don’t drink it all in one go.

If you feel like you’re spinning out, have a rest. Too many people think they can soldier on and end up passing out from over-heating, embarrassing themselves in the best case scenario.




5. Waiting in between dose days
There has not been excessive research done into the long term effects of MDMA, and as a result it is sensible to have a cautious approach to consumption in respect to harm-reduction.

It is generally accepted by the pill-popping population, that an individual should wait one month in between dose days to give your serotonin ample time to recover. A more certain answer can't be given, due to the reason above.

Besides the possible negative health aspects, MDMA is a drug that works very much in the way of diminishing returns. The more you take, more often, the less intense the experience.

6. The Comedown
Your run of the mill comedown will not be the end of the world. You are likely to feel fatigued and suffer a loss of appetite, but it's important to try and eat something to get your body back into the routine. You should keep yourself well hydrated with water and/or isotonic sports drinks. A glucose drink or caffiene drink can help you feel a bit more alive for the day as well. It would be advisable to go out and get some sunlight and some light exercise if you feel up to it.


In rare occasions an MDMA comedown can be a more difficult experience. If the individual consumes excessive amounts of MDMA regularly, it can lead to bouts of depression, fatigue and reduced cognitive skills in the short term. Again, further research is needed to fully understand the long term effects of MDMA use, but caution is always best. It is important to remember most of the negative effects you feel are likely to be temporary, and short term.

If you feel you have been severely affected by MDMA, it is likely a lot of the negative feelings are mental rather than physical. The worse you think you are, and the less likely you feel you are going to recover, the less likely it is. It is important to stay positive, exercise, eat healthily and get plenty of natural sunlight to stimulate natural serotonin production. There are various diets that can increase naturally produced serotonin, one such is here:

https://www.bluelight.org/xf/thread...ower-dose-and-lessen-have-no-comedown.866954/

You will also be surprised what a couple sessions of good sleep will do you.

MDMA comedown’s can last from a day, to a few days, to a few weeks. If you are still feeling negative effects after that, you should consult a medical professional for an assessment. Tell them exactly what is wrong; do not lie. You will not get into trouble , your doctor only has your own health in mind.



If you have any other questions that you feel haven't been answered by this quick guide, feel free to use the search engine or create a new thread below.

Happy Rolling,

Ecstasy Discussion Moderating Team

Credit to DarkSideSam for his E-Diet.
Thanks! Very informative. I got a couple questions answered. 🤗
 

How to reduce the harm from MDMA?​

How to reduce the harm from MDMA?

Harm Reduction for MDMA use aims to minimize the negative consequences associated with the use of this drug.

Educate yourself about the drug​

Before taking MDMA, it is important to educate yourself about its effects, dosage, and risks.

Read harm reduction resources, watch videos on the topic, listen to podcasts, discuss with friends, and tell them what you have learned. Here are a few of my favorites:

Choose a right product​

All other things being equal, MDMA in crystal form is less likely to be with impurities.

See also Amphetamine Dosage and Side Effects. Poster

Test your stuff​

Testing your MDMA before taking it can help you determine if it is pure and free of potentially harmful contaminants.

Find safe environment

MDMA should only be taken in a safe environment where you feel comfortable and secure.

Start with a low dose​

Starting with a low dose of MDMA can help reduce the risk of negative side effects such as anxiety, nausea, and vomiting.

The dosage of MDMA correlates well with the weight of the one who is going to take it. There is an average formula that allows you to calculate the average dose of MDMA. You can calculate the average dosage of your weight with certain conditions on the website mollymeasure.com
 
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Just some tips of what works for me and I feel absolutely great the day following MDMA, I work out religiously and eat a perfect diet. I take a multi vitamin and suplement magnesium. I go low and slow...I take a little, some more later, and finally somme more so technically am gradually dosing 3-4 times to get just the right amount. never take over 200 mgs and I weigh 215. At the end I take a full 25 milligrams of valium and sleep a full 8, sometime 9 hours. The next day I feel absolutely GREAT....any depression is GONE and I feel at one with the world. Never a hint of LTC,,,,in fact it combats depression.

I only take it once, twice a month max, and that is only recently after not taking it for 35 years.

And yes the MDMA back then was higher quality, I got it from Berkeley PhD drop outs.Having said that my current source tends to get extremely high quality drugs. The only time I had a remote problem was dosing 2 weeks in a row. Gotta give the serotonin time to recover.
 
Plus.. know where your getting your MDMA from. I had a friend and he was an ass. He was partying one night and ran out of MDMA, but he had Herion on him and told his other friend he had more MDMA. So, he gave his friend some Herion and told him it was Molly. After taking the heroin he got sick and said I've got to lay off the X because that last bit was rough.
 
Just some tips of what works for me and I feel absolutely great the day following MDMA, I work out religiously and eat a perfect diet. I take a multi vitamin and suplement magnesium. I go low and slow...I take a little, some more later, and finally somme more so technically am gradually dosing 3-4 times to get just the right amount. never take over 200 mgs and I weigh 215. At the end I take a full 25 milligrams of valium and sleep a full 8, sometime 9 hours. The next day I feel absolutely GREAT....any depression is GONE and I feel at one with the world. Never a hint of LTC,,,,in fact it combats depression.

I only take it once, twice a month max, and that is only recently after not taking it for 35 years.

And yes the MDMA back then was higher quality, I got it from Berkeley PhD drop outs.Having said that my current source tends to get extremely high quality drugs. The only time I had a remote problem was dosing 2 weeks in a row. Gotta give the serotonin time to recover.
This is how I dose as well. I got ripped apart in here once by folks telling me that spreading my doses out across the day is the worst way to do it. They are wrong.
 
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