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Short Esters vs. Long Esters

Sphinx

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If anyone wants to add anything to this list feel free to do so. Just thought id post the positives/negatives of short ester injectables over long ester injectables for the newcomers.

Short Esters
Positives
*Quicker clearance time -- if you have a bad reaction, it will be out of your system far sooner than longer esters, good for trying new steroids
*Quicker onset -- no need to frontload, begin taking effect 3-4x sooner than longer esters
*Usually less estrogen/DHT related side effects such as bloat, male pattern baldness, and androgenic sides like deeper voice
*Best for PCT, easier to know when to begin PCT due to shorter half-lives

Negatives
*More frequent injections -- every other day and every day injects
*Most people report shorter esters being more painful, could just be brand specific, as I know theres some human grade test prop thats painless

Thats the general rundown, im a fan for shorter esters, but theyre definetly not for the needle-phobes.

Common Short Ester Gear
- Testosterone Propionate/Suspension
- Stanozolol (winstrol)
- Nandrolone Phenylproptionate (NPP)
- Trenbolone Acetate (fina)
- Drostanolone Proptionate (masteron)

Common Long Ester Gear
- Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Decanoate/Undecanoate
- Trenbolone Enanthate/Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (parabolan)
- Boldenone Undecylenate (equipoise)
- Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca-Durabolin)
 
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OCbinger

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I would edit your post to include some examples of short and long gear since it is for new comers.
 

runner_man

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I'd add primobolan to the short ester list. Too bad its so pricey, its a great drug.
 

indoroids

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Sustanon is a very popular steroid which is highly appreciated by its users since it offers several advantages when compared to other testosterone compounds. This special feature has two positive characteristics for the athlete. Sustanon is a mix of four kinds of testosterone, synergistic mix of propionate, phenylpropionate, isocaproate, and decanoate.

First, based on the special combination effect of the compounds, Sustanon, milligram for milligram, has a better effect than Testosterone enanthate, cypionate, and propionate alone.

Second, the effect of the four testosterones is time-released so that Sustanon goes rapidly into the system and remains effective in the body for several weeks. Due to the propionate also included in the steroid, Sustanon is effective after one day and, based on the mixed in decanoates, remains active for 3-4 weeks. In plain English this means a mix of 2 short-acting, 1 medium-acting, and long lasting testosterone, in one shot that equals 250 mg of testosterone.

This is good because it is both fast-acting and long-lasting in the system. You get the fast action of testosterone propionate, and the long lasting effects of enanthate. The blend seems to be recognized by the steroid receptors for longer periods of time than other testosterones. Sustanon hits harder than enanthate or cypionate. At least you get several anabolic "peaks" as each testosterone kicks in for its duration.

Sustanon has a distinct androgenic effect which is coupled with a strong anabolic effect. Therefore it is well suited to build up strength and mass. A rapid increase in body strength and an even increase in body weight occur. Athletes who use Sustanon report a solid muscle growth since it results in less water retention and also aromatizes less than either testosterone enanthate or cypionate. Indeed many bodybuilders who use testosterone and fight against distinct water retention and an elevated estrogen level prefer Sustanon over other long-acting de-pot testosterones.

Many users claim fewer side effects when using Sustanon - less gyno, bloating and endocrine disturbances. It is little less stressful to the liver. In other words, the general feeling is that Sustanon is less toxic than other testosterones, especially suspension. This makes it a favorite of many bodybuilders and power athletes.

It is further noticed that Sustanon is also effective when relatively low doses are given to well advanced athletes- It is interesting to note that when Sustanon is given to athletes who have already used this compound in the same or lower doses, it leads to similar good results as during the previous intake. Sustanon is usually injected at least once a week, which can be stretched up to 10 days.

The dosage in bodybuilding and powerlifting ranges from 250 mg every 14 days up to 1000 mg or more per day. Since such high dosages are not recommended-and fortunately are also not taken in most cases-the rule is 250-1000 mg/week. A dosage of 500 mg/week is completely sufficient for most, and can often be reduced to 250-mg/ week by combining Sustanon with an oral steroid.

Sustanon is well tolerated as a steroid during treatment which stimulates the regeneration, gives the athlete a sufficient "kick" for intense training units, and next to the already mentioned advantage-rapid strength increase and solid muscle gain distinguishes itself also by its compatibility.


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trepidation

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The above post is very misleading. Test is Test. And sustanon is does a great job at what it was designed to do -HRT. Logically speaking, if sust is injected only 1 or 2 times per week, the short esters in it are useless. Try running a prop or phenyl prop cycle with bi-weekly injections. Your blood levels are going to have peaks and valleys which is NOT what we want. When on AAS we want as high levels of test, for as long a time possible. The only way to effectively utilize sustanons esters is to inject the compound daily or eod. Why should sust be any less toxic? It is test. The only difference is the blend of 4 esters which is only 4 separate carbon chains of different length.

To say that sust has a better effect mg/mg is imo total bullshit.

look no offense but what you typed looks like it has been copied and pasted from an article on sust that is very outdated. I could go on and on about sust and the hype which it is given, not to say its a bad drug, sust is pretty cool, but it is not some brilliant shinning star above the other test esters.
 

5alphareductase

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Damn right trepidation. Sustanon is no different than any other test, and it is much more expensive and faked more often than any other one ester test. I would take a good one ester test like upjohn or schering test any day.
 

EmptyWallet

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I remember several threads back in the day from Iron Game and Mustang_18 (old school vets from EliteFitness) slamming Sust and Omna based on blood levels, and the amount you would have to shoot to take advantage of all the esters.
 

Sphinx

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EF is a crapola board.

But sustanon is just test, and its no better than any other test, it just depends on the users perogatives.

You wont get better results with sus vers any single ester, but it could be more convenient to use for some users.

I personally prefer test prop vs. sust.
 
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