Stimulants Self Medicating ADHD With Meth

[acklac7]

I just recently started using meth again after a five year break from it, as I been a stimulant addict on and off for the last twenty years. I personally feel that meth feels way more cleaner and smoother then Adderall or any traditional amphetamine, and the comedown in my opinion is not as bad as Adderall. Unfortunately impurity is a huge issue as meth is a street drug, so effects vary, I can have a bag of crystal that feels dirty and anxiety stricken like Ritalin or some other dirty stim, or another day I'll get such a good.bag of ice that a half gram will last me 12hrs, I'll feel super clean , super energetic, yet super calm, horny as fuck, anxiety free and feel like a million bucks. Meth is not the drug to abuse and redose because you will have a hundred more problems then you previously did on adderall. You need to control yourself and not redose, or smoke your brains out
If you can be responsible and mature, meth is much more beneficial then regular amphetamine

Nailed it.

 

[JoEhJoEh]

Are you diagnosed from a specialist????

JJ

 

[acklac7]

Are you diagnosed from a specialist????

JJ

Yes, I was diagnosed at the age of 18. ADHD medications made all the difference in my life. Then they caused me to lose everything. And then gain it all, and even more, back, while self-medicating with Meth of all things.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I think you are definitely an anomaly (and an engaging writer)

I never feel compelled to abuse my ADHD meds and stick to prescribed doses. They do nothing for me at abuse levels. However, if there’s meth to be had I’m like a pig at the trough until supply or money runs dry. I couldn’t imagine taking only 5 mg to perform and at 100mg + (my minimum dose) I’m too spun and too horny to be productive at all.

Good luck with keeping it together and staying a Master of the Corporate Universe.

 

[CFC]

Yes, I was diagnosed at the age of 18. ADHD medications made all the difference in my life. Then they caused me to lose everything. And then gain it all, and even more, back, while self-medicating with Meth of all things.

How consistent has your (productive/medicative) reaction to the self-medicated meth been? Has your response to it diminished over time?

 

[acklac7]

How consistent has your (productive/medicative) reaction to the self-medicated meth been? Has your response to it diminished over time?

With the varying potency, it's really hard to say. About once or twice a Month I take a few days off. Makes a world of difference.

 

[HoldBack]

First of all, welcome to Bluelight titans7x.

Now, meth.. One time i ate too much meth, and from then on out the high was minimal and mostly just nausea for the next couple days. You're right, it could be shitty meth, but in my experience, and sort of as psy997 is saying, your body may just be rejecting the extra meth because of this initial reaction.

A week after i had that incident, i used meth with no problem. Everyone's body reacts differently.

I think the key here for OP is going to be stopping the chronic dosing. Even if you are eating and sleeping well every day, meth is simply too long a lasting drug to dose daily (above maybe 5-7.5 mg oral).

You should cease use. And not for a day or a week but like a month if possible.

If you don’t get the effects you want when you start to dose the meth again it’s two possibilities, (1) you have an awful dealer giving you extremely dirty/cut meth or (2) you have permanently or effectively permanantlt changed the connections or pattern of receptors in your brain and body by pushin it too far on that 5 day binge.

While the brain is plastic it does have its own sort of “memory” such that any return to normalcy and the the good ole days could immediately be reverted back to its current state immediately upon a dose of meth.

 

[acklac7]

I think the key here for OP is going to be stopping the chronic dosing. Even if you are eating and sleeping well every day, meth is simply too long a lasting drug to dose daily (above maybe 5-7.5 mg oral).

You should cease use. And not for a day or a week but like a month if possible.

If you don’t get the effects you want when you start to dose the meth again it’s two possibilities, (1) you have an awful dealer giving you extremely dirty/cut meth or (2) you have permanently or effectively permanantlt changed the connections or pattern of receptors in your brain and body by pushin it too far on that 5 day binge.

While the brain is plastic it does have its own sort of “memory” such that any return to normalcy and the the good ole days could immediately be reverted back to its current state immediately upon a dose of meth.

5 day binge? Say what? I don't binge on it?

 

[acklac7]

I mean, occasionally it happens, but not very often!

 

[acklac7]

Hey Hey Matt

 

[GetMeOutOfThisCRAP]

First things first, i'm done with abusing stimulants. Been there, done that. I have no desire to go down that road again.

Secondly, I did run this by my Psychiatrist as a last-chance attempt at getting put on more stimulants - i'm currently on 1 56mg time-release Methylphenidate (prescribed by my Family Physician), but my tolerance is such that I need 3. That and those time-release only work for four hours. I told him I was looking into self medicating with meth because I was going back to school, and desperately needed a bump on my subscription. He responded by raising my dosage of Bupropian 8) (he's too chicken shit to put me back on stimulants after I misused them, even though I have a proven track record on them, he's a young guy)

Trust me, the LAST thing I want to do is use Meth. But i'm between a rock and a hard place. I have to go back to school and finish my degree. I absolutely have to be appropriately medicated for that to happen. I suppose I could try and find a new Psychiatrist, but even then chances are he won't put me on an adequate dose right off the bat, if ever.

Either way, Meth seemed to be great at first, but now i'm not getting any dopamine releases. I mean im stimulated, I guess it's better then nothing. But it's not anything close to adderall / Methlphenidate. At first it was identical to adderall, now it's just "meh". Not sure how much longer I'll be using it, just not doing it for me. Is this typical of Meth? Or did I just get a bad batch?

I personally understand stimulant abuse. It's an addiction I've kept very secret from people. So I know the pleasure/reward works and why stimulants are so enticing but also why you'd want to move on.

Adderall is indeed a powerful drug and much stronger than people give it credit for, and while I suppose low doses of meth can be compared to high dose adderall they're just different demons. Meth is just simply too potent and taxing on the body/mind. Where adderall excels as a "soft narcotic," is that even under abuse there aren't obvious consequences of the addiction for the general population. Under adderall withrawal--sure you face some depression and sluggishness I guess, but meth cessation results in pure ahedonia/ability to enjoy ANYTHING. My post won't make any sense until some time passes and you learn to fear that methamphetamine doesn't work therapeutically lol. It's not necessarily the drug itself, but the people using it. I know that quite a bit of people say that their lives have improved from methamphetamine. But I've never met anyone off the internet who used meth and didn't go straight tin foil hat "the government planted microchips into my brain" literally beyond reality insane. Apparently only functional meth addicts exist on the internet is what I've noticed.

This is not a rational exchange imo.

 

[JoEhJoEh]

There is a methampetamine-ADHD-medication even.... let me look it up shortly...

Wikiwand - Methamphetamine

Methamphetamine is a potent central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is mainly used as a recreational drug and less commonly as a second-line treatment for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and obesity. Methamphetamine was discovered in 1893 and exists as two enantiomers...

www.wikiwand.com

JJ

 

[JoEhJoEh]

I have ADHD from the impulsive side and take Amphetaminsulfate since 8 years now. And no, not every patient is abusing his med. I never take more than prescribed, i never snorted it, nothing. It's my med that makes my life easier.

JJ

 

[acklac7]

There is a methampetamine-ADHD-medication even.... let me look it up shortly...

Wikiwand - Methamphetamine

Methamphetamine is a potent central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is mainly used as a recreational drug and less commonly as a second-line treatment for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and obesity. Methamphetamine was discovered in 1893 and exists as two enantiomers...

www.wikiwand.com

JJ

Methamphetamine aka "Crystal Meth" aka "Meth" is a schedule II medication in the US.

It has been approved by the FDA to treat certain conditions, such as ADHD. Yes, you walk into your Dr's office and walk out with a prescription for Crystal Meth. (If your Dr. is willing to write one)

It is sold under the name Desoxyn.

Nobody can believe it. Nobody.

Methamphetamine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[acklac7]

I have ADHD from the impulsive side and take Amphetaminsulfate since 8 years now. And no, not every patient is abusing his med. I never take more than prescribed, i never snorted it, nothing. It's my med that makes my life easier.

JJ

Same here, I did phenomenal on Adderall for just about 8 years, then started abusing it heavily.

Life can change...

 

[acklac7]

Under adderall withrawal--sure you face some depression and sluggishness I guess, but meth cessation results in pure ahedonia/ability to enjoy ANYTHING.

I rarely, if ever, abuse it though? I've never smoked it. I've never shot it. I've never snorted it. I ingest minuscule amounts. I've gone off of it any number of times (with the help of Adderall). It's easy-peasy? Some mild, temporary anhedonia, maybe?

My post won't make any sense until some time passes and you learn to fear that methamphetamine doesn't work therapeutically lol.

Coming up on two years, now. I've skyrocketed to the top of a Major US-Corporation and gone to school for IT. Had a few hiccups, sure, but all-in-all I'd say it's worked rather well?

The worst thing that has happened, by far, is that several of my friends/family eventually found out. It has been a nightmare, an absolute nightmare to convince them it actually is a prescribed medication and actually has been rather beneficial. Even when faced with overwhelming evidence, they just can't wrap their minds around it.

The stigma Meth has....

 

[GetMeOutOfThisCRAP]

I rarely, if ever, abuse it though? I've never smoked it. I've never shot it. I've never snorted it. I ingest minuscule amounts. I've gone off of it any number of times (with the help of Adderall). It's easy-peasy? Some mild, temporary anhedonia, maybe?



Coming up on two years, now. I've skyrocketed to the top of a Major US-Corporation and gone to school for IT. Had a few hiccups, sure, but all-in-all I'd say it's worked rather well?

The worst thing that has happened, by far, is that several of my friends/family eventually found out. It has been a nightmare, an absolute nightmare to convince them it actually is a prescribed medication and actually has been rather beneficial. Even when faced with overwhelming evidence, they just can't wrap their minds around it.

The stigma Meth has....

I get what you're saying, and it's commendable that you've gotten this far without any consequences beyond the social stigma. I used to felt the exact same about my DOC. It allowed me to function at a higher level for a few years even while everyone else was nodding out at work and becoming highy dysfunctional.

It's not going to be possible for you to believe what I am saying right now. Or probably for quite some time. And I'm not going to make a self-righteous post or try to parade sobriety around like it's life's only answer (because it truly is not). But personally I don't think you will have the same opinion of methamphetamine in 5 years. There's no way for me to post this without coming off as snarky or holier-than-thou, but that really is not how I am trying to approach this topic. Either way--all the best.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I don’t doubt the OPs story but I’m pretty sure we are dealing with a unicorn here. Not many people could pull this off without eventually wandering off the reservation. Cheers to his success though. I’m a bit jealous since my meth use generally pushes through functional to “no work this week again” fairly frequently.

 

[thegreenhand]

I've considered this is in the past and in fact i've considered literally today as i have a ton of schoolwork to get done. I don't have a source so that's a main limiting factor but it's also obv risky. Perhaps it's better as a one off thing (eg. deadline approaching) and not for everyday use. Adderall is a great drug that is definitely misunderstood by the general public. I've never done meth so i dont want to speak too soon but methamphetamine is pharmacologically very similar to amphetamine (adderall) except in potency. Which can be equalized with lower doses as titans7 has said

 

[acklac7]

I've considered this is in the past and in fact i've considered literally today as i have a ton of schoolwork to get done. I don't have a source so that's a main limiting factor but it's also obv risky. Perhaps it's better as a one off thing (eg. deadline approaching) and not for everyday use. Adderall is a great drug that is definitely misunderstood by the general public. I've never done meth so i dont want to speak too soon but methamphetamine is pharmacologically very similar to amphetamine (adderall) except in potency. Which can be equalized with lower doses as titans7 has said

If you could buy a single 10mg dose? You’d be fine. Just make sure you take it at like 7 AM in the morning.

That’s the problem, you can’t buy a “days worth” Nope. Nobody is going to sell you that small of an amount.

You have to buy a few days worth. And then you face the “Meth Trap”

“Meth Trap” = When you go to use meth for the first time ever, or the first time in a few weeks. You ingest a little 10mg dose at 7am, and that’s it? You’re good...

It’s impossible to do. You feel so good, you feel so amazing, you can’t help but take more. At 1:00pm you take what you think is going to be your last dose, only you’re up until 6am still beaming. “Fuck, I have to go to class/work, what do I do? There’s only one option...

And then the cycle repeats itself, usually for about three days straight.

After those three days? After your body begins to adjust? Small doses become more and more manageable and more and more beneficial. You get acclimated to the medication.

Definitely not recommend for one-time use, unless somehow you can manage to buy a single 10mg dose.