THE_REAL_OBLIVION
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Hi,
First, I know one of you hear once linked me to a picture of how Bupe doses stack on top of each other. I'm in the slow crawling process of stopping bupe, especially since I believe from some science-based literature that it shouldn't be used at doses like 8mg for more than 3 months, a 3 month detox drug it should be, but I was already in trouble from being a year on methadone before for a year, made me gain 100 pounds, which I only lost 20 4 years later, despite my best efforts, but buprenorphine is like methadone when it comes to hormones, take it everyday in doses high enough, your system will not remain normal and modification/damage to mu opiate receptor that could be permanent.
I have some doses that contain 100mg codeine, 250mg meprobamate, 5mg valium, 25mg cyclizine and some bisacodyl (something I sometimes get a small script for when I have been neglecting my "regularity", docusate sodium 200mg twice a day isn't enough sometimes. These pills would have worked much better than anything else back when I was desperate to quit IV'ing dilaudid, but even the doctors say the "ministry doctors", the kind of doctors who work at the ministry of health to set standards and say what is allowed or not in the province, they rarely ever have their own practice and likely never will and we have to choose options bureaucrats give us. Had I obtained a 100 of these like now then, I wouldn't be fighting off bupe, I would have tapered away and it would have been rather easy.
I also have a good handful of capsules made in a compound pharmacy with 15mg hydrocodone.
Basically I want to know when it will be worth it to scarf down at least say 30mg hydrocodone with a couple of the codeine++++ ones and actually feel it. I can't wait forever, they almost never piss test me anymore since over 2 years at the clinic because I've proven reliable, even once I tested positive and they were aware I was very ill with bronchitis and in the same building the ORT clinic is in, I was, cos it's in the local ER, being given Dilaudid HP 10mg/ml shots and only feeling like I could stop breathing from the overload until my ORT doc came to see me and asked "Did you tell them you're on Suboxone?" I say yes. then she turns around angrily at the ER doctor and the head nurse saying, Abstral 200ug qid *mumble mumble mumble*. They were too dumb not to know only Abstrals (fentanyl sublingual pills) would do the work, or fentapops for me. That was a terribly harsh hospital stay since they couldn't just give me antibiotics, I had no signs of infection, I was actually given tamiflu and that helped, the usual codeine or hydrocodone syrups would have been useless, even the last ditch (used orally) hydromorphone syrup was not stopping me from almost coughing my lungs out.
Anyway, I'm blessed right now, I have a lot of both of these from somewhere far from here and my next ORT appointment is in a month. I'd like not to take any bupe and when I have my ORT appointment, tell them point blank, reduce me from 8mg to 4mg, I won't ask to a complete detox I would need to stay as inpatient as it would be horrendous at 8mg a day. I also have an opportunity, although not available as prescription here, the commonly used for pain Temgesic with 0.2mg bupe, that would help big time once if maybe I have to start taking the 4mg at all.
Any wise words for me? I have a feeling I will have to let myself fall in withdrawal for these to be of any use.
First, I know one of you hear once linked me to a picture of how Bupe doses stack on top of each other. I'm in the slow crawling process of stopping bupe, especially since I believe from some science-based literature that it shouldn't be used at doses like 8mg for more than 3 months, a 3 month detox drug it should be, but I was already in trouble from being a year on methadone before for a year, made me gain 100 pounds, which I only lost 20 4 years later, despite my best efforts, but buprenorphine is like methadone when it comes to hormones, take it everyday in doses high enough, your system will not remain normal and modification/damage to mu opiate receptor that could be permanent.
I have some doses that contain 100mg codeine, 250mg meprobamate, 5mg valium, 25mg cyclizine and some bisacodyl (something I sometimes get a small script for when I have been neglecting my "regularity", docusate sodium 200mg twice a day isn't enough sometimes. These pills would have worked much better than anything else back when I was desperate to quit IV'ing dilaudid, but even the doctors say the "ministry doctors", the kind of doctors who work at the ministry of health to set standards and say what is allowed or not in the province, they rarely ever have their own practice and likely never will and we have to choose options bureaucrats give us. Had I obtained a 100 of these like now then, I wouldn't be fighting off bupe, I would have tapered away and it would have been rather easy.
I also have a good handful of capsules made in a compound pharmacy with 15mg hydrocodone.
Basically I want to know when it will be worth it to scarf down at least say 30mg hydrocodone with a couple of the codeine++++ ones and actually feel it. I can't wait forever, they almost never piss test me anymore since over 2 years at the clinic because I've proven reliable, even once I tested positive and they were aware I was very ill with bronchitis and in the same building the ORT clinic is in, I was, cos it's in the local ER, being given Dilaudid HP 10mg/ml shots and only feeling like I could stop breathing from the overload until my ORT doc came to see me and asked "Did you tell them you're on Suboxone?" I say yes. then she turns around angrily at the ER doctor and the head nurse saying, Abstral 200ug qid *mumble mumble mumble*. They were too dumb not to know only Abstrals (fentanyl sublingual pills) would do the work, or fentapops for me. That was a terribly harsh hospital stay since they couldn't just give me antibiotics, I had no signs of infection, I was actually given tamiflu and that helped, the usual codeine or hydrocodone syrups would have been useless, even the last ditch (used orally) hydromorphone syrup was not stopping me from almost coughing my lungs out.
Anyway, I'm blessed right now, I have a lot of both of these from somewhere far from here and my next ORT appointment is in a month. I'd like not to take any bupe and when I have my ORT appointment, tell them point blank, reduce me from 8mg to 4mg, I won't ask to a complete detox I would need to stay as inpatient as it would be horrendous at 8mg a day. I also have an opportunity, although not available as prescription here, the commonly used for pain Temgesic with 0.2mg bupe, that would help big time once if maybe I have to start taking the 4mg at all.
Any wise words for me? I have a feeling I will have to let myself fall in withdrawal for these to be of any use.