Ok i'll try to keep this as short as possible. I've made a few posts the past few days about related topics to my situation and i found myself at yet another crossroads. Long story short i've been off and on subs for a decade, but on more often than not. ive been steady on 8mg for years now. i decided to randomly stop to test the waters, and to see how long i could hold out on kratom, and i also had 5 tylenol 3s. i dosed kratom the 2nd and 3rd day and felt no relief. wd symptoms were still mild, until 3rd night which brought on horrendous back pain, cold sweats, mild rls, etc. i took the tylenol 3s and while it relieved the symptoms enough to let me sleep i felt no euphoria. today, day 4, i dosed around 12g kratom in the morning, felt a slight high and it relieved all my wd effects. it made me unbearably dizzy for an hr or so, but after it faded its been 12 hrs since i dosed the kratom and i still feel 0 wd effects. I honestly feel better than i do while on subs. i was planning on reinstating either tonight or tomor morn whenever the wd symptoms kick back in, but having had a full 12 hrs of 0 symptoms has been a real eye opener. im not really sure i want to jump back on the subs. im heavily considering just sticking this out and using kratom as a crutch. that being said i have a pretty intense job and especially over the next few days i have to cater my boss's wedding so i really dont have the liberty of being sick or unable to work lol which is why i was going to reinstate and be on the safe side. that being said im still torn. i know many ppl have used kratom to get off subs successfully, but many of them also became hooked on kratom. which devil is worse? dont get me wrong i was content for a while on subs, i just found myself tired of the monotony of it, and im looking at getting several surgeries over the next few years and would like the option to actually be able to take pain killers when necessary. i fucking hate subs, but for the past decade they were the better of 2 evils. now im not so sure. any input would be greatly appreciated! thanks!!!