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Opioids Pregnant, oxys... Please please help

Had my appointment yesterday.

Withdrawing or or tapering is out of the question until after bubs is born.

Im starting methadone program on the 21st (earliest possible date) or if I can find a prescribing doctor I will hopefully go onto physeptone methadone tablets which means I'm not chained to the pharmacy as much. Really praying for the physeptone, but not liking my chances..
The dr needs to have a specific permit to prescribe it & neither my obstetrician or gp have that.

Keeping my fingers crossed though..

Will let let everyone know what happens, I appreciate the support & advice I have received in this tough time xx
 
Thank you for updating,to many times people get advice and never report back. You and your lil one have been on my mind when I visit BL! I love my boys and am so glad and lucky they were born healthy. We all deserve a fighting chance! If it's a boy maybe name him hmmmmm Eric,just a thought lol!!!!
 
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Hey glad to hear the update too! I was wondering about you too, since I posted to your thread. Hopefully you get the pills, it is a bitch going to dose everyday. But hey, its better than nothing! Keep moving forward and take care of yourself and the Little one!
 
Not everyone, but especially the first post in response was deplorable.... To bash you and make you feel worse about your struggles that really shows a lot of strength with still allowing the unplanned life to develop and have a chance to experience this world is something most would likely seek abortion for. I just wanted to say you are amazing and awesome and negative comments like that come from drug addicts feeling that your usage is the reason it is harder for them to use when really it is the opposite. I do wish the best for you and your child.
 
Did you say you were at 30 weeks? Maybe being at a later stage of pregnancy is why your doctors aren't as concerned about inducing early labour? I have no idea really, just a thought. I know it's not ideal, but can you not maintain yourself on a minimal amount? Say a 1/4 to a 1/3 your standard dose, and just deal with the pain until your child's born. As I said, not ideal, but a valid option to minimise any negative effects your baby may experience, while remaining out of WD's for the most part.
 
OP--excellent. I'm glad to hear you had your appointment and all went well. As I said before, tapering/withdrawing while pregnant isn't usually recommended. And your original usage of an extra pill per day wasn't surprising, as while pregnant the fetus "takes" some of the dose. That's why when someone is put on methadone maintenance (or is on) early in a pregnancy they get increases as the fetus grows, and then when the baby is born the mother is immediately dropped a certain percentage of the dose.

Your baby may not even show wd symptoms. But if s/he does (I'm sensing a boy though lol) they will use morohine and carefully taper the baby. They keep the baby comfortable.

I'm proud of you for following through and doing the best possible thing for your child. Half assed at home tapers are ok when it's just yourself; not so good when an unborn life is at stake. Like I said, sometimes situations happen. You are doing the best you can to deal with it.

Keep your head up. It will all turn out for the best. And you will always have someone who doesn't agree or thinks their opinion is gospel or who look down on you. Usually that stems from something in their own life...just like the cheater in a relationship who is always accusing his partner of cheating. You know? But don't allow anyone's negativity bring you down.

I feel relieved that you are under the care of knowledgeable medical people. Your OBGYNs perspective worried me--perhaps she is great in her field but she didn't seem to know about the standard care for opiate dependent pregnancies. I'm just happy it's all working out for you. Now you can start looking forward to your baby!
 
This is a tough thread. I understand both perspectives. I know someone who fostered a baby addicted to drugs. He went through a lot and it was really hard on both the baby and her and her partner. After a year and a half of nurturing him back to health the mother got him back. Yes that is a risk one takes when fostering but non the less heart breaking if it happens. They had hoped to adopt him and were devastated. They spent hours upon hours walking him around while tightly bundled just to get him to settle as a newborn. Im not sure how much they see him or what the natural mother is like but she does allow them to see him a few times a year. He does have some permanent issues from the drug use while in utero but not sure what they are. So, I do understand when you see things like this how you can be an advocate and voice for the baby who cant be his own advocate. I personally think its a shame that the dr didnt slowly taper mommy in the beginning. I am not a dr but have a hard time imagining that its better to keep taking pills, especially when being abused, instead of a really really slow taper. As a parent, we sacrifice for our kids and if being in pain and maybe on bedrest for a few months would spare the little guy from having to go through wds thats what i would have done. So technically when a baby born to this experiments as a teen its kinda like a relapse. I would imagine they must be very susceptible to addiction. You must warn him how serious experimenting is for him. I know i plan on warning my boys. They are just a little too young now. i didnt acquire an addiction until they were older and i was seperated. But three out of four of us siblings had or have an opiate addiction. So its scarey bc it runs in the blood. Well anyhow, best of luck And just remember some people feel they are being an advocate for the baby and may have seen some really sad stuff that left a lasting impression. atleast your drs know and will be prepared to treat him. Not sure about Florida laws but know someone else who's baby girl died the day after she was born. She supposedly was clean and no one knows the true story but the mom was a huge alky and opiate addict for years and babies dont just die these days. She refused an autopsy. If she lived in NJ she'd most likely be in jail now. So try not to take some posts to personally there's just so many sad stories out there that could have had different outcomes. Had someone known maybe that baby could have been saved. Just make sure u are 100% honest no matter how bad or guilty it makes u feel.
 
hydr0m0rph said:
you should have went thru withdrawal as soon as u found out u were pregnant..
now your baby will have to go thru withdrawals after birth. so u would prefer to let your baby suffer that pain? or are u planning to have the baby on methadone for its whole life?
i dont understand how people like u can breed.
in your whole post, i see 99% concern for yourself... and very little concern for your kid. at this point your pretty much fucked, as is your kid.
one thing you should feel as a parent is that you should be willing to take any kind of pain for your kid..
sorry if u think this is harsh, but raising a kid is not easy, and especially not as an addict.. so good luck..
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Your an idiot. Going thru withdrawals now is not an option due to the high risk of it causing miscarriage. You need to call your doc and be totally honest about what is going on.
 
Crzydiamond- thanks again for your advice & kind words xx I have 3 boys already (14,10,3) & this bubba is indeed my 4th boy & I'm wrapt :)

My3sons- I appreciate what you've said & I do totally understand. I've always tried to be a non judgemental person but in truth always looked down my nose at people that did any sort of drugs when pregnant. I never thought I would be one of those people :( I am on a smallish dosage now 60mg oxy & I would like to go down a bit more if possible although specialists are saying no. My baby will have all the care in the world & I will spend forever feeling guilty & making it up to him

having 3 kids already & a partner that works away- complete bed rest has been out of the question but I did hire a cleaner to come fortnightly to do all the things I shouldn't do & my older boys are very helpful.
 
60 mgs oxy is not a high dose.... I need that for my pain with oxymorphone 30 mg in five to ten mg incriments for breakthrough every 4-6 hours. Just stick with the sixty and let them ween off the baby when it is out of the womb and vitals can be watched to make sure no w/d happen. The baby won't suffer long term and may even be more comfortable at birth as it won't be taxed physically as much by environmental stress. Hang in there you are awesome!

There's another pregnant women who is on fent now. I linked your topic and page for her, but will link you her profile. Definitely connect with one another as you both will be the best support for each other.

Edit: here she is definitely reach out to her if she doesn't reach out to you first.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/members/392926-Lupus_mama
 
mike.vick said:
A taper done by a doctor immediately is the only way to be painlessly opiate/opiod free at time of birth.
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You obviously know next to nothing about the subject of pregnancy and opiates so why not keep your trap shut?

It isn't uncommon to be prescribed narcotics while pregnant and they can either keep your dosage on the low end to prevent infant withdrawals or they taper the babies off themselves. Those little ones feel very little if any discomfort

She did consult with a doctor. They said no taper. So I guess your view isn't the one and only truth you thought it was.
 
Hi everyone,

Thought I'd post an update for anyone interested.

Yesterday I started the methadone program on 25mg per day. It helped only a little with my pain but I know it can take a couple weeks to find correct dose etc. Next week I'll be going up to 30mg and I'm really hoping that will hold me, I do not want to go up any higher than that but we will see..
Hopefully in a few weeks I'll be able to take home a few days or a weeks worth as it is quite difficult with 3 kids to go into pharmacy each day- but I did put myself in this position so I'm just taking it as it comes.
I've also just been diagnosed with gestational diabetes :( Just another thing I have to deal with but we should be able to get that under control fairly easily.
Everyone has been quite nice and helpful with all this- pharmacist, drs etc but I still feel so ashamed & embarrassed.

Thanks again for all the support I have received in this difficult time.
6 weeks until I get to meet my little man- he's a strong healthy bubba already & when he kicks some of his movements actually hurt!!
I'm so worried about his withdrawal when he is born but I have been promised he will not be in any pain & all will be ok.

Take care everyone :)
 
That's great news!!!! I'm so happy to hear that u found an answer to ur problem. Definitely try to keep the methadone as low as possible because when u gotta come off it it's fucking brutal. Mdone is the hardest opiate to kick IMO so the less u have to come off of the better. I'm tired so I won't write a book lol, I'll ttyl dear, god luck and god bless! U got this licked Hun, no sweat :)
 
Look... Fuck that guy. I bet he does not have kids or is just a bitter old asshole. I'm pregnant and on methadone. The doctors say i cannot get off of methadone as it is bad for the baby. So right there shows me that dude does not know shit because they dont put babys on methadone!
 
Well since this got bumped, i'll chime in.Who promised you he won't be in any pain? He's going to have to wd just like any other person. However if under medical supervision, he should be just fine. Although it soes seem like its hit or miss, Ive seen babies that were in bad wds, and I've seen babies that didn't seem affected at all. Also, I don't know if you plan on nursing, or bottle feeding, but opioids do get transfered through breast milk. Just something to keep in mind. Good luck!


- Hopeless Soul
 
MizzCharmz said:
Look... Fuck that guy. I bet he does not have kids or is just a bitter old asshole. I'm pregnant and on methadone. The doctors say i cannot get off of methadone as it is bad for the baby. So right there shows me that dude does not know shit because they dont put babys on methadone!
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Babies don't go through withdrawals either. Listen to your doctor or you may harm the baby. Let them manage the dependancy and ween the baby off outside the womb where they can monitor the baby's vitals and everything as well as give intensive care if needed where in the womb the baby would be withdrawing alone.... Imagine a baby with restless leg syndrome in your womb with non stop kicking. Plus that is not even the major issue vs. Possibly compromising the babies health and growth.

I know you wish the best for your baby and want his dependancy to never start, but please listen and follow your doctor's instructions as it happened, which is not your fault, and needs to be managed properly by the medical experts


I wish you and your baby the best

Edit: I wonder how it went for the OP... It's been six weeks I think
 
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