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Misc Phenibut live withdrawal report

JamesP69

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Hello everyone,

I have had 3 binges on Phenibut now, mainly Phenibut FAA, very little Phenibut HCL and a little F-Phenibut I use it since I have pancriritus and cannot drink alcohol. I have no HCL left since I want to be kinder on my stomach.

The first binge was only around 5 days, little uncomfrotable but managable. (1-3g doses/day)
Second binge was maybe 7 days, with little to any withdrawels. (2-4g doses/day)
The first 2 binges above were used in conjunctuon with Amphetamine, which really plays a toll on your body and the lack of sleep fucks you up, do not recommend, you do turn into a somewhat god though until it gets out of control.

I will be more responsible from now on but the latest traumatic experience pushed me over the edge, my girlfriend situation where she cheated on me during the start of my Phenibut binge, with my best friend.

I know these accounts are irresponsible but I am leanring and the latest was while having a very traumatic experience, my gf cheated with my best friend and I didn't know how to handle it.. but anyway no excuse but here goes.
I am seeing a paid councillor every week to get through my addictive habbits with much success (believe it or not), honeslty I have been pretty silly in the past, I will get this under control, the Phenibut that is, it's wonderful if used correctly.

Ok so this is the third binge which I had my last dose 24 hours ago:

Prior to the 3 day Diazepam binge below I had a 7 day Phenibut binge and felt barely any effects while on the 3 day Diaz detox, was easy, went to a college open day anxious free even though I have been diagonised pretty severely anxious since an early age, of course the 30mg Diazepam over 3 days helped.

22/06/18
10mg Diaz

23/06/18
10mg Diaz (College)

26/06/18
10mg Diaz

28/06/18 (Very stressfull work meeting, running my own business and also a high intensity social event, sorry not all times stated)
1mg oral Etizolam
0.5mg oral Xanax
1mg oral Etizolam
3 Energy drinks
2 lines Amph
23:00 - 1g Phenibut FAA
23:52 - 300mg Phenibut FAA
23:55 - 300mg oral Phenibut HCL

2mg oral Etizolam
Amph lines before work

29/06/18
1mg oral Etizolam
Amph line
16:30 - 1mg oral Etizolam
19:05 - 1.5g oral Phenibut FAA
19:50 - 600mg oral Phenibut FAA

20:20 - Amph line
23:00 - 2.6g oral PhenibutFAA
01:30 - 600mg oral
Phenibut FAA

30/06/18
08:26 - 800mg oral Phenibut FAA
09:00 - 5mg oral Diazepam
10:20 - 300mg oral Phenibut FAA
16:55 - 4 x amph lines had until this point, not long had 2, 2 were had much earlier
0.5mg Etizolam, 5mg Diazepam, 0.25mg Alprazolam

02/07/18
17:20 - 2.2g oral Phenibut FAA
17:40 - 150mg oral Phenibut FAA
18:00 - 500mg oral Phenibut FAA
19:35 - 600mg oral Phenibut FAA
20:26 - 900mg oral Phenibut FAA
21:48 - 300mg oral F-Phenibut
22:30 - 300mg oral F-Phenibut
22:33 - 300mg oral F-Phenibut


03/07/18
14:36 - 2.2g oral Phenibut HCL
Lots more... binge with friend... GF cheated on me here with my best friend. SELF Destruction time begins here, I go out of my mind.

02/07/18
Unknown amount Phen

04/07/18
Nothing, gf flushed Phenibut, I order more straight away and find another bag stashed anyway.

05/07/18
17:00 - 2g oral Phenibut FAA
19:00 - 900mg oral Phenibut FAA


06/07/18
16:00 - 2g oral Phenibut FAA
19:20 - 900mg oral Phenibut FAA
20:20 - 650mg oral Phenibut FAA


07/07/18
12:40 - 2g oral Phenibut FAA
01:50 - 500mg oral Phenibut FAA

02:00 - Tiny amph line, scraped baggy
02:38 - 1.2g oral Phenibut FAA

Stop now... doesn't seem to be working at all..

02:52 - Small line of amph/mdma.. ouch my nose.. is it the MDMA? (Tiny tiny tiny amount, seraching for anything I can)

05:47 - 2.1g oral Phenibut FAA
06:15 - 1.2g oral Phenibut FAA

07:24 - 0.5mg oral Etizolam
08:00 - 1-2mg? Etizolam solution
08:05 - Found a little bit of speed in a baggy
08:05 - Amph line -------- (Thin line)
08:06 - Amph line -------- (Thin line)
08:46 - Amph line -------- (Thin line)
08:50 - Amph line -------- (Thin line)
09:22 - 2g oral Phenibut FAA (Fresh batch see if this hits harder, if not then tollerence is way too high..)
09:36 - 1g oral Phenibut FAA (Fresh batch see if this hits harder, if not then tollerence is way too high..)

10:38 - This new batch definatly seems more potent... working again
12:22 - 2g oral Phenibut FAA (Fresh batch see if this hits harder, if not then tollerence is way too high..)
8g 13:23 - 5mg oral Diazepam
14:35 - 1.3g oral Phenibut FAA
16:28 - 2g oral Phenibut FAA

17:20 - 1-2mg oral Etizolam tablet+solution
19:30 - 1g oral Phenibut FAA
20:30 - 1.6g oral Phenibut FAA
22:48 - 1.6g oral Phenibut FAA

23:20 - 1mg oral Etizolam

This was alot...

08/07/18
04:30 - 1.6g oral Phenibut FAA
08:23 - 800mg oral Phenibut FAA
09:50 - 800mg oral Phenibut FAA
14:50 - 800mg oral Phenibut FAA
16:55 - 1.3g Phenibut FAA


09/07/18
16:15 - 2.6g Phenibut FAA
18:04 - 2g Phenibut FAA
20:30 - 1.6g Phenibut FAA


10/07/18
16:55 - 3.4g Phenibut FAA
18:16 - 1g oral Phenibut FAA
20:14 - 2.1g Phenibut FAA (old batch)

Was supose to taper here but ended up having a large dose, I think these 2 ngihts of around 6g will help the jump from 15g over the previous day... I hope. That was the idea, well the idea was 3G but ended up 6g both days.

11/07/18 - Had one final night of 1g to help ease things the next days
17:15 - 500mg oral Phenibut FAA
10mg oral Diazepam
19:30 - 500mg oral Phenibut FAA
21:99 - No real withdrawels..

Some of the bad side effects experienced throughout the last 5-7 days or so, first numb arms/legs upon waking, then the last few days back pains maybe liver? Subsided mostly now.


Ok time to withdraw and use benzos for 5 days.

12/07/18 - Was thinking of having 500mg but decided to just get through this with benzos and giving Gabapentin a try since I have 100 tabs leftover from hospital.
07:00 - Sweating in morning.. hard to get up
08:00 - 0.5mg oral Alprazolam
08:30 - 0.25mg oral Alprazolam
18:48 - Feeling slight withdrawels, heart palpuations or chest tension.. slight anxiety feeling. Might start on some Etizolam.
18:00 - 300mg oral Gabapentin
18:50 - 1mg oral Etizolam
19:00 - 1mg oral Etizolam
19:30 - Start to feel more withdrawels on and off, I think from now to tomorrow will be worst.. not sure, keep topped up on Diazepam
19:35 - 5mg oral Diazepam
19:40 - 5mg oral Diazepam
20:49 - Feel totally fine and normal, I would have thought the withdrawels from the 15g, 6g and 6g day would be starting maybe the 1g dose last night is holding in, so maybe tomorrow is the day it begins... I did feel somehting coming on today hard earlier though.

Seems like too many benzos but I was feeling something come on hard and fast but it's completely gone now and I don't want much uncomfort at all since I have to run a sucessfull family business I will keep myself topped up on evergy drinks throughout the coming days.

I will keep you updated, yes I know I was stupid but the traumstic experience really hit me hard.

Hope to keep this as live as psosible.

Kind Regards,
J
 
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If people have a better taper plan let me know, I am just thinking Diazepam for 4-5 days, or just use Etizolam 1mg when needed throughout.

What I have in stock for withdrawels.
Lots of Phenibut FAA (Don't want to taper anymore really)
100x 300mg Gabapentin
250 x 150mg 5-HTP
18 x 10mg Diazepam
4x 0.5mg Alprazolam
13 x 1mg Etizolam blistered
A little Etizolam solution I mixed
 
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Thanks for the links friend.

Slept like a baby last night, there was a surge of panic before bed so had some Diazepam which I stated in my last post and it soon went when the benzos kicked in.

Today I have had slight shakes, while driving around i noticed my foot was very shakey on the peddle when pressing the cluth, slight anxiety which wasn't unmanagable.

08:00 - 5mg Diazepam
16:20 - 1mg oral Etizolam
16:20 - 0.5mg oral Etizolam Solution

Quite shakey but that's it, I guess the benzos are doing their job, I should have more withdrawels by now surely, or do you think I have alot accumulated within me?

So it's like this, the last 6 days.
15G
6G
6G
1G
300mg Gabapentin + benzos + 150mg 5-HTP + Multivitamins + Vitamin C + Eating well, lots rest
300mg Gabapentin + benzos + 150mg 5-HTP + Multivitamins + Vitamin C + Eating well, lots rest

Oh and I have been eating healthy meals, lots of vegtables, multivitamins, Vitamin C, a little 5-HTP in the morning too. Vegtables, with brown rice, fruits with yoghurt.

Feeling fine.

I think alot of the horror storries are people doing it without benzos stocked up since they don't know what they are getting into, 10mg Diazepam for 5 days I think would even be enough, but I'll still keep waiting, it worked last time. Just don't carry on the habbit for after those 5 days, will keep you updated friends.


Thanks everyone,
Regards,
J
 
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Still no bad effects not even anxiety and I had no sleep last night since I even had a slight bit of a stim (stupid I know) could of sent me into mega withdrawel and panic, but I feel fine and at peace.... nothing at all.... I should be feeling withdrawels at day 3 off the Phenibut.... seems like I may have gotten away with it again somehow.

Take into account I do get majorly high on Phenibut.
 
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So what sets you off? Something has to make you feel sketched out a little bit. I am glad you are managing so well.

If you have a way of making withdrawal easier, I'll build a thread off your experience. A lot of people have issue with Phenibut. You may hold the key.
No sarcasm. Take this seriously. If you post good content, this will stay open.
 
Honestly I am being reckless lately after a few things in my life went sour. I had lots and lots of Phenibut, then stopped after that last 1G dose, had a couple 10mg Diazepam's 1 x 300mg Gabapentin each day and some Etizolam, I have felt barely anything, last night I was awake all night but could have slept if I wanted to but decided to take some 4-MMC instead. I was almost certain this would stim me up and put me into awful edgy sketchy withdrawel but I just feel fine, zero anxiety. I do not get it.... I would defiantly be withdrawing by now. It seems that you should just dose yourself with 5-10mg Diazepam per day after tapering down to 1G Phenibut or lower if possible, then take harder benzos as and when needed, with the help of 1 x 300mg Gabapentin.

I feel no bad feelings at all, I should be by now... really.

I am really really suprised by this.

No benzos had this morning as of yet.

Kind Regards,
J


Just to be clear.

I dropped off like this:

Day 1: 15G heavy binge

Day 2: 6G

Day 3: 6G (planned on 3 but had 6)

Day 4: 1G

Day 5:
07:00 - Sweating in morning.. hard to get up
08:00 - 0.5mg oral Alprazolam
08:30 - 0.25mg oral Alprazolam
18:48 - Feeling slight withdrawels, heart palpuations or chest tension.. slight anxiety feeling. Might start on some Etizolam.
18:00 - 300mg oral Gabapentin
18:50 - 1mg oral Etizolam
19:00 - 1mg oral Etizolam
19:30 - Start to feel more withdrawels on and off, I think from now to tomorrow will be worst.. not sure, keep topped up on Diazepam
19:35 - 5mg oral Diazepam
19:40 - 5mg oral Diazepam

Day 6
08:00 - 5mg Diazepam
16:20 - 1mg oral Etizolam
16:20 - 0.5mg oral Etizolam Solution

Even had a stim binge and feeel FINE (Yes I know this is reckless and stupid and suprised I didn't go into panic, but honestly... nothing.. even had abit of Amphetamine...),

13/07/18
08:00 - 5mg Diazepam
16:20 - 1mg oral Etizolam
16:20 - 0.5mg oral Etizolam Solution
16:34 - 25mg Insufflated Mephedrone
17:00 - 75mg Insufflated Mephedrone
17:33 - 50mg Insufflated Mephedrone
18:02 - 50mg Insufflated Mephedrone
18:15 - 80mg Insufflated Mephedrone (Hurts)
19:48 - 40mg Insufflated Mephedrone
20:00 - 5mg oral Diazepam
20:18 - 5mg oral Diazepam
20:23 - 50mg Insufflated Mephedrone
20:48 - 150mg oral Mephedrone
21:30 - ------ Small Amph line
22:24 - 100mg Insufflated Mephedrone
22:58 - 150mg Insufflated Mephedrone
01:22 - 2mg oral Etizolam
01:51 - 250mg oral Mephedrone
02:59 - 260mg oral Mephedrone

14/07/18
Nothing as of yet.... no Benzos been wake all night... last benzo was at 1:22am.


This is odd, I guess alot of the horror stories are people coming off this stuff without even strong benzos, thinking a few fake Alprazolam (Xanax) and 2mg Diazepam will not do the trick perhaps,

This has been a walk in the park unless something is STILL yet to come which I somehow doubt it.

Kind Regards,
J
 
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I think the 300mg Gabapentin is known to help quite somewhat I am lucky to have 100 stocked from a hospital adminission for pancrititus, so have them on hand, but last time I just used 10mg Dieazepam for 3 days, and I was sound after that. Just don't use it the first day off Phenibut, you will pass out at your job the next day, especially if it's a desk job. Give it one day then take the Diazepam, and if really needed some Alprazolam/Etizolam sort of thing to keep you topped up with hard times. Really easy for me. I would definatly end your binges with 1G or 500g if possible though, I don't even think a steady taper is needed in my case.

15G in a day
6G at once pretty much
6G at once pretty much
1G at once pretty much
To benzos
To benzos
To binging....
To feeling just fine.....
Hmmmmmmz, really suprised by this myself.
 
I'm worried that you consider a gram of mepehdrone and some amphetamine to be a "slight bit of a stim", that sort of heavy, repeat dosing shouldn't be taken lightly, but all the best with this taper. <3
 
I honestly doubt it was even Mephedrone and yes I agree it was extremely reckless and stupid, totally totally agree. Do not copy from me guys, I am doing reckless behaviour.

But if anything this should have put me into panic mode, boosted the senses and anxiety up a notch for sure. I feel just fine.

Whatever this 4-MMC was it wasn't the real deal that I remember and kind of sucked. But was 'ok', lets put the stim binge to the side, and go with the other stuff, or at least focus on it more.

I appreciate what your saying though but this stuff was harsh, horrible tasted awful with little effect.

The benzxos and Gabapentin did the trick with the last 1G dose, last time I came off I ended with a 500mg dose too. Seems to really help. I think....

I think the story is if your new to benzos take 5-10mg a day for 3-5 days with posible other topups of shorter acting benzos. 300mg Gabapentin a day if on hand, eat well, sleep through WD at night.
If you are experienced 5-15mg 3-5 days with posible other topups of shorter acting benzos. 300mg Gabapentin a day if on hand, eat well, sleep through WD at night.

Who knows though, maybe I am an exception.

Kind Regards,
J

You know you can stack those gabapentin caps, at the rate of 300 mg per hour , straight up, until you feel the effects. eat a light snack and a soda pop. for some reason , it helps with absorbtiption. That will help. If you w/d at night, time it so it kicks in closer to bed time.

BTW, you are not an exception areound here , You play by the rules we will bend over backward to help you.

Nobody would say would say that withdrawl would be easy, but it is possile. We are here to help you.

keep the faith. I am here personally help you .
 
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I think the real rough WD's come into play when Phenibut is used at multiple grams for a year or longer, as there are accounts of people using 10+ grams for long periods and ending up in the hospital with delirium. Another issue is waking up in full blown panic morning after morning, but again this is with long term usage. It's great that your doing well though James.
 
I think it's quite possible to experience pretty nasty withdrawel symptoms in a short time of usage (especially if you haven't experienced benzo wd before) as you don't know what to expect, and if you don't have benzos to ease you off the stuff you just get shocked and sent into panic. I definatly felt some heavy panic coming on at some point but I was already on 10mg Diazepam so it just faded away.

Thanks for the responces.
 
If you are that far into that, got to doctor and get the benzos to help withdrawl comfortablly. use them as tools and don't get hooked. Valium works, but you may need clonazepam to aid the acute effects of the withhdrawal

Research is the key,
 
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I just want to thank you all again for the help and responses and kind words, you are all great people. :)
Much love <3
 
After a 3 or so day break I started again on the Phenibut FAA for another 5 days or so then went cold turkey, didn't use benzos to taper or anything and had such minor withdrawels but slight anxiety and I was safe at home all weekend without comitments which I think helped. Just slept alot. The withdrawels haven't hit me bad once yet, but I'll be more carful, 3 weeks of high use is silly. Thanks guys.
 
^You might have gotten lucky- seriously, hold onto that; in general, repeat GABA-style drug withdrawals get exponentially worse over time, and this tendency rarely changes over time. I would seriously consider a prolonged break to allow your brain and CNS the chance to recuperate.

Take care.
 
Yeah, she's right there. With GABAergics, they have a NASTY set of teeth they can bare,and they aren't shy at all about biting with them either. There's hardly even a word for the horror of withdrawal from GABAa or GABAb agonists. If anything, GABAb agonist withdrawal is even nastier than benzo etc. withdrawal. Utter, abject shrieking horror. The kind of horror you'd see in a movie featuring a hobo paedophile in a dirty old clown costume hoiked out of a skip who when he finishes abusing a toddler, slices around their skull with a rusty razorblade, before slowly reaching down and peeling off their faces to wear like masks, only replacing them when the previous one gets so worm-eaten with decay and rot its in danger of giving away the nonce's identity.

Oh and just for good measure, think shoving the faceless abused baby's face in a dirty cat litter tray, only filled with salt and quick-lime instead
 
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