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I did some 3-MeO-PCE and MDA and a bump of hexen (gotta toss the rest of that stuff but the mix was right this time, I forgot I had it for a while even though my time lock safe has been unlocked for like 2 weeks) and have been sealing my decks... big project. So many thoughts... a bit grandiose sometimes but there is the most incredible music in my head, all instruments, full compositions. It's incredible. I hope I remember this stuff. I kinda want to write all my thoughts but it feels against the grain. So I'll just say that and keep thinking and rolling deck sealer onto deck boards.
I wonder if we could ever have a mind -> audio recording device. I've been there with full, detailed music in my head, yet it can be so ephemeral. A few times I've managed to translate some things into the studio, or at least take some a capella notes.. but so much just evaporates. Part of the beauty of it too though.
 
@Buzz Lightbeer have you ever tried really low doses of the stimulating dissociatives (PCP analogues)? Something like 3-5mg of 3 meo pcp is a great high, not very dissociating or confusing. I use it that way more as a stimulant than a disso.
I have yes, I have used quite a bit of 3-MeO-PCE, it's an extremely fun drug though. But they're very strong drugs, and they eliminate all the borders I set for myself at all times. So it's instant mania, and it lasts, the crazy high confidence makes it so I do and say stupid shit. Beyond delusional for me, and it takes a couple days to fully reset and feel like myself again, with perspective over things. I did not like 3-MeO-PCP however, recreationally speaking I found 3-MeO-PCE much much better.

Apart from that I have experience with ketamine, a couple trials with O-PCE (which were crazy), and a hypomanic induced episode due to DCK. That's it I think.
I did like MXPr, that was a cool and interesting high, but not really that enjoyable for me. I think dissos just aren't for me, I never understand in the slightest what disso lovers are talking about when talking about them
 
I wonder if we could ever have a mind -> audio recording device. I've been there with full, detailed music in my head, yet it can be so ephemeral. A few times I've managed to translate some things into the studio, or at least take some a capella notes.. but so much just evaporates. Part of the beauty of it too though.
I think we might live to see that day yeah, it works for speech, music is obviously harder and would probably require invasive technology. Neuralink (from Musk) isn't gonna be the one though. But if they figure the brain out more, I believe it's possible, with some noise of course.
Wild guess here..... 20 years? But that begs the question if you're read for brain implants =D don't know if that information is accessible with non invasive techniques
 
@Perforated I've never combined ketamine and meth, can’t say for sure whether you would hole but the high would probably be quite interesting.
ketamine and cocaine is very popular, as was mentioned. Also ketamine (or MXE) and MDMA is in my opinion one of the best disso combos there is.
I’m also pretty fond of 3 meo/ho pcp combined with 2-fma. I use that pretty often when going out partying and don’t want to be too spun out.
All this is to say the combo would probably be pretty cool. I don’t know if you’ll hole but it’ll probably be fun even if you don’t. So, go do some drugs and come back here and tell us what it’s like.

I’m high on 3meo, Kratom and hard seltzers right now.
I’m just waiting for my dehydration / sexual frenzy /blurry vision headache to dissipate after some electrolytes, nurofen and paracetemol and then I’ll do just that.

i think I’ll just IM 50 mg of ket and see how that goes. It’s saturday 8 AM here and i have no other plans.
 
I wonder if we could ever have a mind -> audio recording device. I've been there with full, detailed music in my head, yet it can be so ephemeral. A few times I've managed to translate some things into the studio, or at least take some a capella notes.. but so much just evaporates. Part of the beauty of it too though.

That would be amazing. There is almost always music running through my head and it's hardly ever someone else's. Sometimes it gets kicked up to symphony level but I never have the drive to try to communicate that to paper. I do communicate it through my playing so it gets out there but so much gets lost or rather, just ruminates and eventually comes out in some way. I often feel like I am connected to a universal flow through the music, sometimes I wish so bad that I could communicate what's happening. And sometimes I do. I guess that's why I'm a musician. :)

You guys ever do some drugs and then wish you hadn't done any drugs? That's where I'm at. I justified it by the fact that I was feeling so low energy and had a big project to do, but now the project is done and I just feel sloppy and meh.

It's been 15 days without kratom, I had some suboxone days in there but it's been a week since that too. Been doing gabapentin every other day and loperamide some days. I'm getting to where I am not sure whether I'm risking dependence on those. I don't feel that bad but the anhedonia is shitty. I've been timing gabapentin for band-related days. I want to break free so bad... and just feel normal. usually by now I would be working out but my energy levels are abnormally low so it's hard. Obviously doing some stimulants today isn't going to help that. Sigh... so much good stuff going on, it's hard to function like this though and I have to function. I literally have 2 careers right now. The band is taking off again and so is my programming job. My girlfriend is sad because I don't have enough time. I'm not really sure exactly how I'm going to mange this but I have to do the music. And I also have to make money because I have a mortgage, plus I really like my job. My life is a weird mixture of joy and stress. What I want is to explode through life and do everything. She just wants to chill and not do that much. I feel bad because she's lonely when I'm gone and a lot of the time I'm home I have to work during the day. She wants to move somewhere with a community, we have discussed moving to my bandmate's farm but the logistics are intense, other people are living in the second house so we either would need to build a house or help them buy the property and buy the second house. Which is basically all on me. So I don't know what to do. Also I don't want to sell my house because it's in a prime location in one of the fastest growing cities in the country and in 10 years it'll be worth so much more. I could rent it out but that's another thing, plus then I wouldn't have a chunk of cash to do something else with like I would if I sold it. I'm trying to make money with crypto too, but that might take a few years. Ahhhh so much stuff.
 
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You guys ever do some drugs and then wish you hadn't done any drugs? That's where I'm at. I justified it by the fact that I was feeling so low energy and had a big project to do, but now the project is done and I just feel sloppy and meh.

Yes, totally. Thankfully, my experiences of it are much more mild these days than pre 2017. But, yes. It's mostly about using stimulants to find the energy to be productive, these days, and then feeling like I should have just let myself be tired, etc.
 
All I'll say @Xorkoth is that from what I've seen, your place is epic.

You guys ever do some drugs and then wish you hadn't done any drugs? That's where I'm at. I justified it by the fact that I was feeling so low energy and had a big project to do, but now the project is done and I just feel sloppy and meh.
Yes, sadly. It's weird addict behavior, getting high for the sake of getting high, under false circumstances. I'm often in the same boat.
 
I'm better than I was too but today was a bit of a slip. Sure enough had to take some etizolam. I didn't have to, but duh every time with hexen, like clockwork. Otherwise it's too shitty. You may be pleased to know (I am) that I dumped the rest down the sink though. Fuck dat shit

I did have one batch once that was pretty fucking good. It still made me want to do etizolam, but I had some good times. This batch though, the good times last an hour or two and then it's on to the bad times.
 
Yeah man, took some etiz too, finally rid of all this anxiety that has been rekking me today. It's not too bad, just a bizarre Friday, whatever is in store for Saturday is hardly lost.
I didn't have to, but duh every time with hexen, like clockwork. Otherwise it's too shitty. You may be pleased to know (I am) that I dumped the rest down the sink though. Fuck dat shit
What is your ROA? I was dumbfounded at how bad of a stimulant it was, but it might have been the batch. People on like reddit will be raving how it's the most euphoric shit lol.
 
@Perforated I've never combined ketamine and meth, can’t say for sure whether you would hole but the high would probably be quite interesting.
ketamine and cocaine is very popular, as was mentioned. Also ketamine (or MXE) and MDMA is in my opinion one of the best disso combos there is.
I’m also pretty fond of 3 meo/ho pcp combined with 2-fma. I use that pretty often when going out partying and don’t want to be too spun out.
All this is to say the combo would probably be pretty cool. I don’t know if you’ll hole but it’ll probably be fun even if you don’t. So go do some drugs and come back here and tell us what it’s like.

I’m high on 3meo, Kratom and hard seltzers right now.
Ok. After smoking maybe 3 points of quality meth over last 12 hours I IM’d 80mg of ketamine about 5 min ago. I feel cheerful and a bit fuzzy that’s about it. Obviously I can still write. Think I’ll wait 20 minutes to see full effect then take another bigger hit. Maybe 130 mg.
 
Ok. After smoking maybe 3 points of quality meth over last 12 hours I IM’d 80mg of ketamine about 5 min ago. I feel cheerful and a bit fuzzy that’s about it. Obviously I can still write. Think I’ll wait 20 minutes to see full effect then take another bigger hit. Maybe 130 mg.
Yeah I had to do like 500mg to feel it with Adderall. Bad decision. Best to enjoy separately lol
 
What is your ROA? I was dumbfounded at how bad of a stimulant it was, but it might have been the batch. People on like reddit will be raving how it's the most euphoric shit lol.

Nasal. It's quite euphoric with a dopamine rush a la cocaine but much more jittery and without the nice serotonergic/loving effects of (good) coke. But then after the peak it is sketchy. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I've taken 2mg of etizolam and just added 1mg of bromazolam. Trying to feel comfortable. I took some etizolam last night too but skipped a few nights before that. Gotta make sure not to take it too often. During opiate withdrawal it is SO tempting. I hope I haven't fucked my progress because of today. Oh well, all I can do is push on.
 
Really regret snorting 2cp last time. My nose is kinda messed up; can't snot through one nostril and the other causes it to drains into my eye. That made the come up really uncomfortable. Also ended up vaping a small amount in my dabber. Actually works decently; gives a nice little rush a kicks up the visuals.
Why not just eat the 2cp?

I have some of the world’s loneliest 2cp - a 25 mg sample that hasn’t seen the light of day in over 7 years. Never tried it, but after browsing bluelight for some reason I really feel like tripping :)
 
Well taking a second bigger IM ketamine dose on top of all that meth turned out to be pretty hectic and an interesting but not really pleasant trip.

After feeling not much from the first 80 shot, i had another 130 mg shot an hour later (after smoking 3-4 ponts of meth and having 2 cialis). The second shot came on like a freight train and I guess I went straight to the k-hole.

I was watching some cartoon kids movie about a robot takeover of the world and it suddenly became a documentary as i sat gobsmacked on the sofa. Then i couldn’t tell where the TV ended and the lounge room began and it was wall to wall robots. I literally couldn’t move and sat there for an eternity propped up by cushions I’d placed either side just in case.

The TV got really intense and confusing so i closed my eyes and watched all these images of my wood panelling and furniture being stained all these weird rich colours. Meanwhile the traffic noise became a kind of voodoo chant emanating from the walls. Not scary, but like it had a message I just could not access or translate.

Totally unable to move I just watched the grain in the wood (inside closed eyes) and tried to understand the chants for ages. When I opened my eyes and tried to move a bit everything became suddenly nauseous like I was carsick or seasick. As soon as I stopped moving I felt fine but any attempt to move brought on a desire to puke.

Eventually I as able to push the cushions to the floor and lie on the sofa still trying to follow the chants and seeing what were now elaborate machine-made designs of some kind when I closed my eyes. Patterns and objects from these designs kept replicating. I felt generally fine but had to keep telling myself it would not last forever.

As the visions and the chants petered out I got restless but any movement brought on nausea and I ended up retching a few times as I fought my way down the hall to my bedroom where I thought I would feel more relaxed.

I have no idea how long the whole thing lasted. It was interesting but I would not want to repeat it. How much of the challenge and discomfort was the meth pre-load I’d like to know. I might try it again with a smaller dose when meth free just to be sure I’ve really experienced ketamine properly.

I definittely didn’t find it euphoric or addictive in any way.
 
Ketamine on its own at hole-level dosages is incredibly weird and intense, but somehow you feel comforted and like everything is happening as it should... you just accept it.
 
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