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I had some kava kava early in the day yesterday, which often keeps me up all night. To try to counteract that, I had a 5mg delta 8 edible, then vaped some more before bed. I didn't get that high from it, but I'll be damned if I didn't sleep for TWELVE AND A HALF HOURS. I couldn't believe it! 😅
 
Img_9999 said:
^ Same here, when I first started getting into RCs I was kinda scared of cathinones lol. Now that I'm not, the best ones seem pretty hard to come by. The only one I've tried is 3-MMC, and I liked it a lot.
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Cathinones are a good thing to be scared of. I've been in the RC world for twenty years now, and the only ones that I've seen lots of people destroy their lives with are cathinones and dissos (especially PCP analogs.) I'm sure opioids and benzos, too, but not in my friend group.
 
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I did take 50mg of methylone.
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I quite like that stuff but have not been able to get any for a long time.
About 2 years ago a friend got a hold of me pretty pissed that a half oz of molly he bought from what was essentially a random dealer tested as methylone.
I was actually excited and would have got it right away but I actually delayed because he wanted the price of a half oz of mdma to recoup his losses, and I wasn't
sure if I wanted to pay that.
Apparently the demand for it was high enough that he sold it to someone else during that time.
Oh well....
I don't really find it all that similar to mdma though, which I guess is weird.
 
It's not all that similar, it's definitely a cathinone. It's empathogenic, but much more of a stimulant, more dopaminergic
 
Good bk-MDMA should have you pretty fucked up wired as fuck speedy type buzz pining hard eyes beaming but lacking that love of mdma
 
Yeah that's a good way to describe it. Not love, but excitement and sparkle.
 
I just realized something, since I took 3-Me-PCP three weeks ago I've been thinking a lot about gratefulness. I was sitting in my room, listening to the new GY!BE album, which is quite dark at times, and started thinking about the misery in the world, that seems to have become more visible specially during the pandemic. Well, I don't really know how living these times from a first world country is like, but here in LATAM it has really come to show the flaws in our economies and public health services, and has made it clear that the illusion of wealth brought by the capitalists reforms of the latter half of the past century is just that, an illusion. In the end we are on our own in this system, even though we all contribute to the production of the wealth. We are promised security , comfort and abundance, as long as we contribute to the economy through labor. But in the reality, the promised goods are only for a small percent of the people, the poor always suffer more in the face of crisis.

Well, sorry for the political rant, but my dissociated mind was exploring similar pathways that night, but then I stopped for a minute, looked around, and recognized that despite all the misery of this world I'm still privileged enough to live comfortably, and take a night off to take a novel dissociative drug, enjoy some music in the company of my loving girlfriend and soft cat-friend, and was flooded with this sense of gratitude for my own life. And it was like a switch flipped on my brain, I've been thinking about the stuff I'm grateful for in my life a lot lately. My last trip on bicycle day came to reinforce that and further installed the idea in my head. It's been a recurring theme lately.

So in that context, last night while I was browsing bluelight I came to recognize that I'm also very grateful for this space. I have very very few people in real life, if any, to share this experiences with, and discuss the compounds we consume in the way we do here. And in a way it's such a big part of my life and interests. I mean I've never been one to dose for weeks on end, but after all these years there's been so much invested into this exploration of psychoactives, they are a huge aspect of what I've lived and what I've thought about, so it would be weird not having anyone to talk about this and share experiences, anecdotes, tips, words of warning... But I have all of you to share this journey of self-discovery and pharmacological curiosity, and I really, really do feel grateful for that. It's easy to take for granted, but I've wanted to explicitly thank you all for being here and making this place what it is.

I know you were just discussing empathogens, but I'm completely sober right now BTW, lol.
 
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Well said @Img_9999

I was reading some heartbreaking stories on BBC of loss from COVID in Brazil, same story as always man, the poor getting fucked. We need an alternative but I don't know what it is. Capitalism is eating the planet alive, and exponentially enriching the people closer to the top, and lifting the bottom up just barely enough to keep them from bringing out the guillotines. But just devastating the planet in front of our eyes. My best stab at a vision for the political future is a world that tempers the capitalist beast with a balance of socialism, strong unilateral environmental regulation. Strong government, but with that we have to be vigilant to prevent corruption. Hopefully technology and scientific/engineering progress fills in a lot of the gaps to provide for the many with low impact, sharing economy, services that approach zero-marginal cost. I do think psychedelics play a role in a thriving future where people come into closer harmony with each other and the planet, so in that sense I'm cheering the psychedelic renaissance, although there will certainly be blowback and problems in the coming years.

I hope COVID is part of the transformation we need, I hope it's waking people up somehow to the fact that we need to cooperate globally, that we can change.

The new Godspeed You Black Emporer is really good, thanks for pointing it out. I had to google the acronym, wasn't familiar with it. I've been following them peripherally for a long time, never as an ardent fan, more as an appreciative bystander. They are able to convey so much emotion in their music. Those epic heaving hypnotic distorted guitar journeys.. reminds me so much of early Sonic Youth, Daydream Nation etc.

I'm really grateful for this little bluelight PD community too. It's an oasis in the internet.
 
I believe that capitalism, in its ideal form, is a good system, but it needs to be tempered with elements of socialism. A democratic socialist form of capitalism that has robust oversight and safeguards against corruption allows the most people a chance at a good life and can keep power distributed among the voting public. We've allowed our system to stagnate and become more of an oligarchy, through apathy and manipulation. But we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater just because it's become corrupted. All forms of human organization are vulnerable to corruption from sociopaths, there is no perfect system.
 
if edibles were legal i would eat them every night. Its such a good fucking pain relief and sleep aid.
 
I much prefer weed orally to smoked, it's a better drug that way IMO. But I actually like oral delta-8-THC even better. And it's like 20x cheaper too.
 
Ima get really fucked stonned soon then be done with weed hopefully. Its so relaxing its addictive. Yup oral weed is way better. Smoking is a dirty high. Im pretty sure the intended natural method was oral ingestion. Im also sure most shops in legal countries lie heavily about their edible dosages. I put a estimated potency on my outdoor at around 9% for a conservative average. So the amounts i been eating been around 50-70 mg which is fucking strong. But still nothing like that hash butane edible i had last year.
 
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Ima get really fucked stonned soon then be done with weed hopefully. Its so relaxing its addictive. Yup oral weed is way better. Smoking is a dirty high. Im pretty sure the intended natural method was oral ingestion. Im also sure most shops in legal countries lie heavily about their edible dosages. I put a estimated potency on my outdoor at around 9% for a conservative average. So the amounts i been eating been around 50-70 mg which is fucking strong. But still nothing like that hash butane edible i had last year.
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Don’t rule out clean, controlled, high vapor quality vaporized weed.

It’s actually unjustly not recognised for its power medicinally, vs smoking, AND edible too, IME, at working so much more efficiently health preventative and curative way for so many conditions.

The clean, vaporized cannabinoids are more intact and far more bioavalable and transferable.

I know of tons of US medical MJ users who vaporized their weed specifically to provide relief from all sorts conditions.


plus- vaporized weed is far less lethargic and lazy. Edibles really can make you....cannnot be asked lol!

Smoking too to an extent.

Vapor is more energising and mentally stimulating.

Plus it doesn’t smell and can be done safely practically everywhere
 
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TripSitterNZ said:
Ima get really fucked stonned soon then be done with weed hopefully. Its so relaxing its addictive. Yup oral weed is way better. Smoking is a dirty high. Im pretty sure the intended natural method was oral ingestion. Im also sure most shops in legal countries lie heavily about their edible dosages. I put a estimated potency on my outdoor at around 9% for a conservative average. So the amounts i been eating been around 50-70 mg which is fucking strong. But still nothing like that hash butane edible i had last year.
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and yeah, I often eat about half gram of our weed, at 12-15 % thc. So it’s in that exact range,
 
For pretty much my entire life i have had a crippling addiction to weed. Where eventually i use it 24/7. I get stressed easily and weed is the one thing which can put me to sleep without effecting me to heavily. The destress i feel from it keeps me going along. But use turns into abuse. I plan to eat at least 2-3 g of weed tonight. But this first one has hit me pretty strong already.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
For pretty much my entire life i have had a crippling addiction to weed. Where eventually i use it 24/7. I get stressed easily and weed is the one thing which can put me to sleep without effecting me to heavily. The destress i feel from it keeps me going along. But use turns into abuse. I plan to eat at least 2-3 g of weed tonight. But this first one has hit me pretty strong already.
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This is et another reason I’d be so Interested to see you potentially trying Kava becauseIt can serve much the same purpose is particularly with Proper quality sleep for example without feeling a hangover unlike alcohol to but also it’s similar to the alcohol affects in terms of social ability and free-flowing communication but without a dimmed awareness or consciousness of things going on around and never with a hostile or aggressive nature in anybody.
 
@TripSitterNZ hi man. Just brief. I tested about 52 ug 1plsd tonight.

Tacnnically, 1plsd is about 83% potency, per ug, as LSD, otherwise more or effectively the same.

And I had 50 grams fine Kavas, lots weed etc.

which is standard!

Point....your potential upcoming trips with student friends.

Even for me admittedly yes, just 50 ug can be a full, deep colourful, but never too intense experience.

Especially more so st that exact dose with 1cP LSD and I’m sure LSD.
 
Ima go on detox mode now. ima delay LSD til like end of june. For now ima try be sober for a month if i can pull it off and have a serious think about how to fix my substance abuse issues. waiting for this coffee to kick in and try get out of this cannabis haze to get my energy. i slept over 12 hours last night.

Honestly ill prob just skip introducing people to LSD for a while unless they truly truly want it. meditation on edibles is insane.

If they acutally had better support services out there for drug abuse and were free i would go use them. I could easily just back to been a hermit crab doing nothing in society but consuming shit loads of LSD infact i find that what was my soul was born to do. Eat LSD. Elon musk should hire me put me a on beachside cabin with a lifetime supply of LSD and educational books and ill read them and consume endless psychedelics to discover ways to take humanity to the next level.
 
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