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JackARoe

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Had 18 mgs of 4-ACO-DMT last night. FIrst trip (besides Salvia and DMT) since the end of Feb when i had acid.

Couple of things I learned. I know gabaentin to be a perfect launching pad fo DMT. Really takes you out there then comes back and the gabapentin visuals take over. I can say they work together very well..So last night I took 1500 mgs of gabapentin to sort of smooth me out and then the psilaciten. But what I found is they both have their own visuals and were almost competitng with each other. The psilaciten won out but gabapentin was present. Sometimes the visuals would merge and be perfect diamond like. Other times they tug at each other.But the gabapentin fo sure affected the trip and the psilaciten had to deal with it. There was a very positive dreamy aspec to it.

So if the gabapentin was not enough I had a box of 50 whippits I have had for over a years just waiting for a trip. Initially I was going to use some for 2C-B but have not done that in 2 years So last night I pulled them out 3 hours into the trip and proceded to strengthen the term "hippy crack" as I just kept doing them. lol However do too many and the anesthetic part of the nitrous sort of took over too. Had some fascinating insights. Listening to music after a balloon I can hear every instrument broken down and can almost hear the intent of the musicians. Completely interesting except after a load of balloons I felt some weird sensations with feeling arms and legs and walking. I like nitrous, but only once in a blue moon. At the end of the night I took 2 mgs of etizolam and that slammed me. I think I ate two sandwiches after that but it is a blur. Then passed out in a blur. Too many drugs. lol

Also last night it seemed every neighbor was having a party. People outside all over and it is usually quiet here. I can here talking and laughing and as I filled the balloons and kept saying party!! My dog however it not thrilled with the sound of the whip cream maker filling a balloon. But I gave her some treats at the end of the night for putting up with me. lol

Next time I trip no other drugs will be involved except cannabis. Clean, clear and prestine. I may do my early Aug DPT trip. I notice I have to do that late at night starting at 10:00PM because interaction with others are impossible with DPT.

But yeah I have been a purist with psychedelics. Never mixed any. As I like to sit and explore whatever substance I take for it's own sake. Always with cannabis though. And as much as I like nitrous I do think too much and it pollutes the trip. It wants your attention and it can alter the trip. And it can be morish.

Feel good, less depressed but I can already see that wall of anxiety and depression come at me as my work week starts. Oh boy. But going to clean my system out no gabapentin or etiz for the next 10 days to clear my head. Those are only ocassional things anyway. Gabapentin is great but on its own or with cannabis or even a DMT blast off base. But I think it is not for longer acting psychedelics and is about psychedelic on its own at times.
 
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I bought one of these a while ago and it seems to work fine. Except at 3AM when tripping balls and it somehow convinced me 150 mg of ket was only 50 mg. But under normal conditions it’s pretty straightforward. And you can recalibrate it easily with the included weight.

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Thanks! I'll check it out bc this "mg" scale I've got now registers 0.000 with several mg on it. My roommate with stage 4 cancer woke me up several times last night for help to the bathroom and i redosed the deschloroetizolam several times eye balled. Really feeling it now.

I am pleasantly surprised that deschloroetizolam Feels nearly indistinguishable from etizolam.

3-mmc and 4-aco-dmt sounds like a great idea right now but i always black out when i roll plus alcohol and suspect benzos might be the same.

Guess I'm just enjoying benzos plus some alcohol today...
 

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Yeah... I just recently realized etizolam isn't available for import anymore. Sorta bummed out. Haven't had a stock for over a year.
This always happens when I stop paying attention for a while. Might have to try the deschloro variety or find a more
clandestine source for etiz....
 
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Yeah... I just recently realized etizolam isn't available for import anymore. Sorta bummed out. Haven't had a stock for over a year.
This always happens when I stop paying attention for a while. Might have to try the deschloro variety or get find a more
clandestine source for etiz....
Yeah i was pleasantly surprised trying deschloroetizolam last night. Super relaxed and so nice. Just like etiz for real. Lol high on that now and just bombed 270mg 3-MMC. I figure I'll be ok bc i used to mix clonazapam with MDMA. Guess we'll see!! Hopefully i won't black out.
 

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Seems it is India that can't export etizolam. I stopped paying attention too. I never ordered much but now I have to milk whatever I have for longer. Unless other countries set up shop. Who knows. Bummed over that. I just like knowing it was available. I guess some research for a replacement is needed just for peace of mind.
 

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Copy from METOCI.N thread: took [email protected] I have to communicate thus message

70mgs + 5G psilocybin mushrooms = I am aware of a premordial, spiritual, webbed-like mycelium network.ov wisdom... a purple lattice nexus network of knowledge
beams of infibite love rainbows enter the deepest parts of my maybe dead soul.. love and wisdom… that I asked for, comes in waves of non-time based linear pellets of love light and unending ultimate peace… windlowsopen showing me Multifaceted prism beings of ultimate reflection and the purest, ever encompassing white light/love I, but also I feel are guarding the inner sanctum of the nexus reserved for only the purest high school lunch ladies that let you skip $ maybe once or twice when you were dead inside and life was not cool ,,, oops sorry tangents , and spiraks of love light are. Taking me away slowly from this trach8ng lesson nom. I love every on3 of you glorious humans
 

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Seems it is India that can't export etizolam. I stopped paying attention too. I never ordered much but now I have to milk whatever I have for longer. Unless other countries set up shop. Who knows. Bummed over that. I just like knowing it was available. I guess some research for a replacement is needed just for peace of mind.
I'm so glad I bought 15g a few years ago now. 5g gone though... needa slow my habit or I'll never get to have etiz again.

Anyone benzo tolerant try deschloroetiz? If it's halfway decent I may just order a few dozen grams to futureproof my benzo stash, I like having backups for when I switch doctors; always gettin' hassled for my measly 2mg alpraz per day for IBS cramping...
 

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So as far as I know it is the pharma etizolam in pill form that India can not export. But I have to wonder if that effects all the clandestine etizolam you all can get by the gram from different countries. I never ordered powder as I do not use it much and a pill is easier. What I do know is one door closes another opens. So I wonder if we will see blotter etizolam or maybe even bromazolam in a pill form. Or the next greatest benzo to use.

Not too concerned about me but I have to imagine there are plenty of people addicted to the pills too. Oh boy.
 

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I haven't seen it even from shady East Asian vendors in powder form for years now. Some other benzos have popped up but they're getting further and further away from original 1960s-80s discoveries and prodrugs and more and more potent/sedating. Less and less myorelaxant too, norflurazepam was good but impotent and a brick to the head in most doses. Bromazolam is 'fun' but too amnesic (coming from a guy who uses 5mg+ of alpraz daily some weeks). Lots are already disappearing too. Norfluraz is gone, glad I grabbed a stash of that as it's likely the next best thing to diazepam IME, complete and total euphoric mellowness... just can't recall things well on it >.<

I should just temper my habit, but what can I say; I love artificial anxiety/muscle cramp relief...
 

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I have my own dwindling stash of Etiz in pure powder by gram from Holland. They also offer blotters.

I couldn’t take pills.

The Dutch Lysergamide and RC giants who had to leave UK in 2016 actually make Etiz, is Holland a UN member?
 

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fuck insomia feel so fucking wide awake at 2 am need to wake up by 7 am. rip
You need some kava bro I swear. Clove powder also, I’m allergic personally, but tried years ago, wow, it really puts you out and keeps you there, better than valerian which always felt nasty to me, and no hangover feeling.

Just clove powder in boiled water. Whole cloves, not worth it.
 

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Bromazolam is 'fun' but too amnesic (coming from a guy who uses 5mg+ of alpraz daily some weeks).

That was what I was researching as a replacement. I can coast a with the etiz I have now but wanted to know in 2 years I could reup. I suspect it will still be available in some way shape or form. I notice we are a clever community. lol :D
 

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Sorry to hear about your Mum @AutoTripper
Is she doing better now?
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Sorry for the wall of text but I dont think this onedeserves a proper trip report so heregoes...
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My trip Saturday night was... too much M. It kinda toned down the 1a.
I was coming up hard and went for a walk to see if there were any fireflies left in the woods .. but alas only a few remained.
Climbing hard I was glad to be out of the woods before it got dark. Every *snap* brought the chance of a ravenous coyote ... or maybe I was just high lol

My fire got rainined out as T1 approached and it was time to eat the M. So I set up some different spaces around the house: 2 with music and one with a movie. For a while I just stared absent mindedly at the tv, which was playing the kids movie Soul (I recommend, its cute and had all sorts of meaning, even sober lol). When I realized the M had come on I couldnt sit still so I vacated the living room and tried to relax in the hammock in the garage to some chill electronic music. Unfortunately I had mad nystagmus and couldnt even figure out how to like any songs lol ...

Pacing back inside I realized it was time for my boost. Tbh I didnt need it. Looking at it made me gag (swallowing pills while high apparently makes me stomach turn, knowing a substance is going to hit the serotonin receptors in the gut maybe? lol)... Some peppermint gum calmed my stomach and down went the boost at T2...

More pacing, tv, hammock, psytrance downstairs in the dark... hammock, movie, hammock

Figured I try Yoga, it was a hoot.
The (video) instructors... (?) lol ... voice was sooo slow and mellow and I was rolling too hard. I gave up not even half way through. Never mind the meditation lol ... But I attempted to engage in some walking meditation while I paced. I was so euphoric.

Back in the garage I saw the dart board and figured why not. But I was much too shakey and it didnt last long. lol...
Some where in a slew of thought, likely brought on my the copious amounts of live resin I began smoking, I came to realize that I had overdone the M lol ... Then I realized Im often balls deep, personally anyways, in all my substance use. Years ago I got my psychedelic use under control. Then M, even if I dose a little heavy from time to time lol... then weed. But booze I struggle with.As the music climaxed I told myself Id never drink again. Haha Ive said that before but maybe I meant it this time? Lets hope so

By T4 I had come down enough to realize I was hungry, so I set out a smorgasbord of nibbles. It would be some time before I really got into them but I gave it the old college try. I was drinking plenty of water/juice/gatorade.. but not to much ;)

The food seemed to bring me down a bit and I was finally able to think more linearly... or at least at a pace that allowed for some reflection. The rest of the night was mostly spent watching movies, thinking and crying. For the first time in a long time I allowed myself to feel something than exhaustion, anger or frustration (thats a bit of a stretch but...ya know, M ha)

I finally dosed off around 530 for a few. Maybe an 1hr, before the house mate who was home came down.
Spent the rest of the day doing the same. Before it was time to get back to life. So I showered, cared for the plants, and made dinner. After my pacing in circles the night before I felt so deliberate in my movements. Going to do a? While youll need b and c, so why not get em along the way..... I felt conscious for the first time in months. Slept like a baby Sunday night.

Monday I felt almost apathetic. Tbh it felt akin to a dissosciative after glow... but lesss confused.
Work was rough as buddys kids daycare was closed for the week and he didnt know until we got there en route to work... so I was late and that was kinda flustrating (lol) ... but it was a short day so it wasnt so bad.

Picked up a used dressor for cheap, to match the (free) bed frame I scored last week. My room is finally coming together. I no longer feel like a kid, using the same furniture I had growing up (Im >30 ffs lol)...Today I finally switched all my shit over and got rid of the old dresser.

Feels good to be productive.

tl;dr
I propose we call ald52+M a sunshine flip lol ..
Too much M (or maybe it was too much 1A lol) meant proper reflection wasnt possible until after I had peaked. But tbf the peak was blissful af lol the days after have been productive and I am more hopeful for the future. But I know that I need to be the change I wanted to see. I cant continue to do the same shit and expect anything to change.

Cheers

edit: just thought I’d say my dose of m wasn’t reckless. I’m not sure why I need to say it, perhaps because I keep saying “too much m”. Was it a high dose, sure but I don’t think it was that bad in the scheme of things.

Perhaps I redosed a bit early too at 60 min. And it was 1/2 as opposed to 1/3. Both of which, I think contributed to the strong effects, whereas I believe if I had wait a bit longer and took a bit less it would have simply prolonged it as opposed to making the effects stronger.

Next time.

Bummed I only have 2 (of this sameness dose left... so like 2 and a small dose w/o a redose
 
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