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Man, I've been going to the store weekly still for food; the shelves are always empty and my GI problems have pretty much limited me to eating once daily since the only stuff left is hyper-processed foods that I can't digest. So if they want to make a quarantine work where I'm at they'll have to make it possible for people like me to get fresh food, I can't be having high fructose corn syrup or preservatives in my food...
 

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I have to go out in a few minutes to go get my breathalyzer interlock calibrated and pay for 2 more months.
Of course they're aren't. :cautious:

I haven't been out in forever either, well except to go for walks and jogs. It's crazy that I've been cooped up for this long and have somehow STILL been too busy for psychedelics for the most part. I don't even understand.
 

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Be safe out there Xorky, don't touch anything unless it's completely neccessary. That is how this thing is spreading, though you are at much less of a risk than I am here in NYC. Believe we are the state that has the most infections now at this point. Yesterday it jumped up to 12,000 cases.
 

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Might drop some acid later tonight to clear up this migraine. The only thing that has ever worked for me in my life for them. Thought sometimes it only gives relief anywhere from a week to a few months. Hearing that our lockdown could probably be 9 weeks or longer.
I suffered from cluster headaches from when I was 25-40. Every Spring and Fall, for 4 weeks every other night I would wake up at 2:00AM with an ice pick pain stab to my head and suffer for 40 minutes. I would wimper and just about cry as I was vomiting in pain. The only thing that got rid of it was caffeine. Morphine made it worse. Taking caffeine at 2:00AM sucked but any relief worked. Then at 4:00AM it would come back and the same thing. So I lived with these for years. Never got any medical treatment and knew nothing of tryptamines helping as it was before that knowledge. I will say I have tripped in the middle of these cycles and they did not abort them, but I am glad others are getting relief. Then one year they stopped. I had heard they stop as we get older. Any of the cluster headache boards said the same thing and I can confirm. I have not had one in 16 years so I did grow out of them.

Charlie, very happy to see you sounding (and looking lol) well. Natural psychedelics are all I had access too (and acid) for years as I never had the balls to order RC's and most I got were gifted by good souls. But I did reach for cactus, mushrooms, acid, Salvia, morning glory seeds, etc. I guess that is not bad, kind of glad I missed all those RC stimulants. I just feel they are not healthy and I would have shoveled them in. lol

Salvia is an ally of mine for 20 years. Plain leaf always works once I broke through on 5x. A tobacco pipe with half a gram of plain leaf, two large hits and hold them in. She likes me, treats me well, gives me insight. Silent and dark room is a must and she comes out. Salvia is a character of it's own. In the Dale Pendell book he said it works best when you are in a total funk and have no idea what to do. I usually blast off and feel better for a few days later.

Yup, stay well everyone, I have had more time to read these posts in the social area since we all "sheltering at home" lol (I did that anyway)
 

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Believe it or not the first "psychedelic" of ever taken was Amanita Muscaria when I was in my early teenage years. Think I took like 1/3rd of the ounce I bought remember going to Blockbuster Video with my Mother and them kicking in while I was looking for a game to buy. Remember selecting this game called N2O: Nitrous Oxide for the Playstation and being super fucked up and having trouble walking around the store and I had this tunnel vision going on while I was profusely sweating. Looking back I should have just stayed at home like I plan on doing this time. That game is awesome and I ended up playing it while I would take DXM many times after that and smoking Cannabis. The music in it's by the Crystal Method and you fly this space craft down a tunnel that changes colors patterns and is highly psychedlic.

When I take the Amanita Muscaria this time it's going to be here at my house and I will meditate thru a large portion of the trip and listen to ambient music. Have a feeling it's going to be a much better experience these times because I have tripped hundreds of times since then and will use a better set and setting. Being out in public back then when it hit me had me become somewhat paranoid. Happy to be revisiting these now and in going to write up a trip report next week, doing so will give me something fun to occupy my time while under this quarantine. Really need you to give me some advice on how I should proceed with these @Chris Timothy. Your the most highly experienced person with this drug that I know. Might try smoking a bowl of the Mushrooms on a separate occasion after I go on my trip dosing them orally. Some people talk about getting good effects when using them in such a manner.
 

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Cali 99% crystal is way cleaner and smooth than all the euro crystal i ever done. No fogginess or confusion in the headspace on this come up or body load just pure 100% clarity.
So ironic considering you're recent posts in the What is wrong with MDMA today? thread :ROFLMAO:
 

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I like to buy them from him because I know they are of the highest quality. But I did do my research on some other brands and found stuff that is organic and grown in the USA.
Host Defense is actually not such great quality, third party testing has shown.

P.S. sorry for the multi-posting.
 

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I wouldn't count on being able to go to work in a month, Charlie, especially since you're in NY it could be months. :(

So ironic considering you're recent posts in the What is wrong with MDMA today? thread :ROFLMAO:
There are so many things wrong with MDMA today. That aside, nobody has ever answered these questions before, but what about e.g. ALD-52, does that have the same foginess or confusion of 'EU LSD'?
 

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Be safe out there Xorky, don't touch anything unless it's completely neccessary. That is how this thing is spreading, though you are at much less of a risk than I am here in NYC. Believe we are the state that has the most infections now at this point. Yesterday it jumped up to 12,000 cases.
Yeah I obviously had to touch some stuff but avoided touching my face... I tend to touch my face a lot in general and also other stuff, I guess I'm a pretty touchy person. So I have to really be conscious of it. My county only has a few confirmed cases still although I'm sure there are quite a few more people incubating. I am slightly concerned I have it only because I feel sort of like I have a cold since I stayed up late doing drugs a few nights in a row. But likely I'm just really tired. I have the sick-behind-the-eyes feeling a little today. Wish I wouldn't have had to go out but... I did.
 

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Host Defense is actually not such great quality, third party testing has shown.

P.S. sorry for the multi-posting.
Really it's not?

I've always just assumed that it was since he knows so much about Mushrooms and I've learned alot of what I know about them through him. The other three brands of tubs/bags i just got are Microingredients Turkey Tail 50:1 Extract and Om's Turkey Tails and also Om's Broad Spectrum Defense. Do you know anything about those companies?

Personally I have been on Host Defense stuff for years and have had amazing results. I used to get sick literally every 3 or 4 weeks in the past do to my immune system failing because of spending a couple years cycling antibiotics in the past trying to battle an infection that has become chronic. After spending time on higher doses of Medicinal Mushrooms the brought me back from the brink and I only get sick a couple times a year now. Also I like to utilize probiotics as well due to 80% of the immune system being in your got treating myself in this manner has done me better than any other pharmaceutical medications.

Would have never known about Turkey Tails and all the other Mushrooms without Paul Stamets, the man literally saved my life I was on my way to dying from the infections most specifically the respiratory and sinus ones that came very close to becoming chronic as well. I will always continue to buy at least some of my Mushrooms from him in gratitude. If you know of any other companies you can point me towards it would be greatly appreciated. I'm in desperatel need of them and my Wife and I spent around 250 dollars on them this month on them stocking up out of fear of them disappearing from the market place due to this coronavirus.
 

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Mannnnn, today would be a great day to trip if I weren't anxious about moving and our apt wasn't so spartan looking from packing. So bored. My county just announced the closure of all non-essential businesses.

I wonder if the pet store will stay open... our African Fat-tail is picky and only eats crickets and they're hard to keep alive so I have to buy more every two-four weeks... Hey, times like this are what his fat-tail is for right? Riding out hunger :rolleyes:

I wish I had a fat-tail of reserves... I'm at somewhere around 1% body fat lately. Can't eat because the stores have no food. Can't exercise because I'm not eating. Didn't have any fat to burn anyways so now my veins are all popping out and the hunger is really getting annoying. It's a choice between hunger and gut pain...
 

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"Are you familiar with the work of Knut Hamsun?"



Maybe I'll give Hunger another read, seems apt. Don't really care about Knut being a Nazi sympathizer, still a good writer.
 

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Do you think there could be any subjectivity to this? There are those that say acid is acid is acid, and there are those who swear different batches cause different effects. I’m more on the side that subjective effects cause folks to think the acid they have is objectively different. I find AL-LAD indistinguishable from LSD once saturation is reached, with say, 5 standard hits.
Nope. I have three different sources of acid right now the mass production euro white flufff of gamma golbin 95%. This cali 99.9% fluff crystal small scale production. And NZ needle point small scale production.

Even the top producers in europe list their crystal and types of effects. 99.9% LSD is on another level compared to 95% crystal.

At 95% white fluff the nasuesa is very noticeable the confusion on the come up makes the trip rough til it smooths out around 4 hours but still has quite a bit of head fuck in the trip.

This 99.9% cali i just tried showed that american LSD is way way better than european by a far standard this is how LSD should be and is what i like to dose high. The come up is smooth no body load or head fuck your mind feels almost sober just unlocked higher IQ visuals are still psychedelic and reality morphing no confusion or head fuck during whole trip. My main supply i have been doing for years is also like this. What they have in common is small scale production refined. LSD production is a art and europeans have come up with shortcuts to make money and just mass produce LSD with no care for the spirit of chemistry.

The cali crystal can be obtained in liquid blotter or crystal form if people had the money and wanted to lay their own hits.

Every LSD sale at wholesale from chemists are all testing their crystals and all agree that it effects each trip. This is why low quality 80% crystal is usually never laid with if they acutally care about the product.


I could write in depth reports over time on each product. The chemists the wholesale suppliers and anybody who has done alot of different qualities of acid all know LSD requires some very special treatment and care taken to it.
 

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Nope. I have three different sources of acid right now the mass production euro white flufff of gamma golbin 95%. This cali 99.9% fluff crystal small scale production. And NZ needle point small scale production.

Even the top producers in europe list their crystal and types of effects. 99.9% LSD is on another level compared to 95% crystal.

At 95% white fluff the nasuesa is very noticeable the confusion on the come up makes the trip rough til it smooths out around 4 hours but still has quite a bit of head fuck in the trip.

This 99.9% cali i just tried showed that american LSD is way way better than european by a far standard this is how LSD should be and is what i like to dose high. The come up is smooth no body load or head fuck your mind feels almost sober just unlocked higher IQ visuals are still psychedelic and reality morphing no confusion or head fuck during whole trip. My main supply i have been doing for years is also like this. What they have in common is small scale production refined. LSD production is a art and europeans have come up with shortcuts to make money and just mass produce LSD with no care for the spirit of chemistry.

The cali crystal can be obtained in liquid blotter or crystal form if people had the money and wanted to lay their own hits.

Every LSD sale at wholesale from chemists are all testing their crystals and all agree that it effects each trip. This is why low quality 80% crystal is usually never laid with if they acutally care about the product.


I could write in depth reports over time on each product. The chemists the wholesale suppliers and anybody who has done alot of different qualities of acid all know LSD requires some very special treatment and care taken to it.
Have you tried doing a blind trial between the three batches?

I find the effects of all psychs to vary, not always based on dosage or purity, but a number of factors, mainly set and setting. Even 'shitty' MXE found ways to emulate 'good pre-ban' MXE ime. How do explain that other than pure subjectivity?
 

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Have you tried doing a blind trial between the three batches?

I find the effects of all psychs to vary, not always based on dosage or purity, but a number of factors, mainly set and setting. Even 'shitty' MXE found ways to emulate 'good pre-ban' MXE ime. How do explain that other than pure subjectivity?
Yes i have done all of them in the same setting same music same meal before hand.

But even years later the same Euro gammas give me the same physical side effects in all different settings i did them.

I can have different friends test each one blindly and report back their effects without telling what crystal should do what.

I have alot of this stuff and a lockdown that could last two months. So i could put it to blind tests on myself and close friends who all have heavy experince with psychedelics.

for LSD this quality issue has been going around its creation. But its a general conclusion of all big producers and suppliers that purity even a few % has dramatic changes in the come up of a trip.

It could be that the inactive impurities bind to the receptors along side the lsd leading to these physical side effects and less mental clarity.

From what i just tried American LSD in California is on another level to the rest of the world in terms of purity clearness and zero body load.

Usually white fluff LSD fucks with my bladder really bad and gives me more vasoconstriction. But i really like the 95% trip more sometimes the mental intoxication of cloudiness and confusion allows me more to trip out than trying to figure out the next billion dollar business idea like 99.9% crystal like steve jobs.
 

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But i really like the 95% trip more sometimes the mental intoxication of cloudiness and confusion
I'm honestly of the opinion that if there's no mind-fuck or looping it's not LSD. Even AL-LAD produces these effects at high enough doses.

I'm not questioning your logic at all man, it's just that from a scientific standpoint, we know that impurities in LSD aren't active and even if they were they'd be in such small amounts so as to be unnoticed.

I'd be more ready to believe that chemists are (and HAVE been) producing LSD analogues alongside LSD itself and that might give us some of the batch variance that subjectivity doesn't cover.

Not tryna pick an argument, I'm just playing Devil's advocate. This discussion has been being had for at least half a century and shows no signs of clearing up any time soon. So for all I know you could be 100% right about purity and its effects on the experience.
 

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I'm honestly of the opinion that if there's no mind-fuck or looping it's not LSD. Even AL-LAD produces these effects at high enough doses.

I'm not questioning your logic at all man, it's just that from a scientific standpoint, we know that impurities in LSD aren't active and even if they were they'd be in such small amounts so as to be unnoticed.

I'd be more ready to believe that chemists are (and HAVE been) producing LSD analogues alongside LSD itself and that might give us some of the batch variance that subjectivity doesn't cover.

Not tryna pick an argument, I'm just playing Devil's advocate. This discussion has been being had for at least half a century and shows no signs of clearing up any time soon. So for all I know you could be 100% right about purity and its effects on the experience.
I know alot of old school users who would claim that any looping is not LSD. But they are both LSD. The type of crystal affects the trip in some ways Its up to the person to see what type of lsd crystal they really enjoy. I know some people prefer zero body load and mental awakening that has zero head fuck. But i like to switch it up

But if i going to dose 500 ug i want to know to dose it on LSD that i know is not going to trap me in time loops to reduce the risk of a trip really getting out of hand.

The main effects are noticeable in the come up but most of the time they will give way to very similar peaks.

I wish you could try this stuff and then see what LSD without looping or head fuck is like. The first time was many years ago when i encountered high purity 100% mental clarity crystal it revolutionized my understanding of LSD.

I really want to try out every batch of LSD ever made and try under some type of framework show what each type of % lsd crystal can do.

With a molecule that is so potent in the microgram range it would quite complex to try figure out what was happening at the neurochemical level vs 95% to 99% but instead we have to rely on peoples reports and reviews.

That all said. LSD is still LSD i enjoy all types of crystals and personally white fluff is my fav to trip out on the mind fucks as a more recreational trip. While 99% crystal or needle point etc i would say is the stuff that probably win people nobel prize awards invent apple etc like steve jobs.
 

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i want to know to dose it on LSD that i know is not going to trap me in time loops to reduce the risk of a trip really getting out of hand.
Just goes to show, we all trip differently. Time loops and breaking out of them is the whole point of LSD to me, when you break free sometimes you get that glimpse of the infinite. Not to mention, the realization that you're caught in a loop is reason to laugh at the absurd and it's so, so funny. My last 750ug AL-LAD trip I ended up seeing like... all of time. In my head. In regards to myself and my father and his father before him... and then I cried and laughed at the same time.

Lysergimides have a pension for the absurd, and always have me experiencing blended emotions. Like awe, fear, and joy all in one emotion... God knows how that can be, but it is.

God I love acid.

Acid is God.
Tryptamines are the flesh of Christ.
And MXE is the 'holey' spirit.
 

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Just goes to show, we all trip differently. Time loops and breaking out of them is the whole point of LSD to me, when you break free sometimes you get that glimpse of the infinite. Not to mention, the realization that you're caught in a loop is reason to laugh at the absurd and it's so, so funny. My last 750ug AL-LAD trip I ended up seeing like... all of time. In my head. In regards to myself and my father and his father before him... and then I cried and laughed at the same time.

Lysergimides have a pension for the absurd, and always have me experiencing blended emotions. Like awe, fear, and joy all in one emotion... God knows how that can be, but it is.

God I love acid.

Acid is God.
Tryptamines are the flesh of Christ.
And MXE is the 'holey' spirit.
I get that feeling. I like the trips that cross that fine line of insanity / enlightenment. The dark side of LSD is where you really get into touch with reality. 150 ug of white fluff had me a few weeks ago dissolve away into infinity every object just dissolved at the atomic level into the screaming infinite void. The days of forcing myself into time loops to trip out have faded a bit since the loop itself was damaged for me after a 1500 ug eternal hell loop years ago. So i usually like to avoid acid which gives me to much head fuck as the damage is in deep within my mind and it seeps into my trips sometimes during those time loops making me wonder if i was truly ever alive or just reawakening every time to a horrifying infinite reality that is quickly forgotten but for a timeless eternal moment you know you where somewhere that should not be possible only to fully know how crazy and true it is when you find yourself at those crossroads once again.
 

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I get that feeling. I like the trips that cross that fine line of insanity / enlightenment. The dark side of LSD is where you really get into touch with reality. 150 ug of white fluff had me a few weeks ago dissolve away into infinity every object just dissolved at the atomic level into the screaming infinite void. The days of forcing myself into time loops to trip out have faded a bit since the loop itself was damaged for me after a 1500 ug eternal hell loop years ago. So i usually like to avoid acid which gives me to much head fuck as the damage is in deep within my mind and it seeps into my trips sometimes during those time loops making me wonder if i was truly ever alive or just reawakening every time to a horrifying infinite reality that is quickly forgotten but for a timeless eternal moment you know you where somewhere that should not be possible only to fully know how crazy and true it is when you find yourself at those crossroads once again.
There is no darkness without the light. We are gray, we exist in between.

I always take benzos with acid these days so it's easy to beat the 'fear', but it wasn't so easy before I started down this road of medication. My most profound trips were the earliest ones, as I'm sure they are for many of us. The novelty wears off. That 750ug AL-LAD trip though man... I'm still exploring that, even though it was weeks ago now, the mind reels.
 
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