☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

[Bella Figura]

The pedant in me screamed at the screen when he said the poppy plant had three drugs in it: opium, morphine and codeine. I think he meant thebaine /pedant.

Currently watching the new Hamilton's Pharmacopeia on Methamphetamine

 

[Vastness]

Hah I watched that today as well. Hamilton is another drug advocacy hero for sure.

That bit where he's in the church and the woman is talking about why people don't believe in god and he says "probably evidenced based thinking"... too funny.

 

[Shadow Cat]

Man, I'm just listening to Carl Hart on Joe Rogan's podcast. It's behind Spotify's paywall now but you guys should check it out if you get the chance. Really smart guy and a fucking hero for drug policy reform. Talks about how even though he enjoys using many drugs, he never buys them just because of how it would look for a prominent neuropharmacologist and advocate for legalisation of psychoactive substances to get into legal trouble, or just a situation where people could use it to discredit him... That's commitment to the cause for sure. Also says some interesting stuff about his occasional recreational heroin use, as well as deliberately getting addicted just to demonstrate that withdrawal is not life threatening... again... that's commitment. I'm gonna have to buy a few of his books.

I'll admit I was a little taken aback with his perspective on opiates, even though I know I wouldn't have been about a year ago, just because kratom really fucked my mind for a while. But, maybe I just have a fragile mind in some respects, obviously everyone is not the same and plenty of people do a lot harder opiates than I did a lot more often and are still able to function fine... heh, can't help thinking of you @Cosmic Charlie, you seem to manage your opiates pretty well for sure. ☺ On the other hand I did a little kratom for a few months, and ended up barely capable of working or even getting out of bed... I wonder why that is...

Anyway listening to this guy kinda made me think that I might need to carefully deprogram myself a little from being exposed to some harmful ideas during my really brief stint in online NA as a result of that brief but disproportionately headfucking kratom addiction. I am pretty easily lead I think and might have picked up a little groupthink despite my love for drugs immunising me to the worst of it.

Took some gabapentin today coz reasons and was really surprised to actually feel something from it, whereas previously I thought gabapentin did basically nothing for me. Tolerance break is working! Been thinking a fair bit about dissociatives I must admit, but that unfortunately would be over my self imposed imaginary line at the moment. Been thinking about which psychedelic I'll take next as well... that's not strictly over the (I realise fairly arbitrary sounding) line but, I'll give it another few months.

Actually was just listening to that Carl Hart podcast myself on my ride to work today got thru first hour so i will listen to more on the way home. He is a brilliant guy and i totay agree with his perspective on things. Giving people like him a platform as massive as the JRE is exactly what we need to allow change to begin to accelerate in this world. And i appreciate you viewing me as your Junky with his shit together i truly try to be as productive as possible each day and prove peoples misconceptions about drugs wrong. So far i think im at 13-14 grams of Kratom today and i still feel pretty good just got to work and im about to punch in soon just gotta catch my breath after the 6.2 mile ride. Tell you what i am in seriously good shape right now from the amount of cardio i do on a daily basis. If i told my coworkers i was heavily addicted to Opioids im sure it would really surprise them. Gonna wait like three more hours and then take one finally dose for the day, hope all of you are well i love you guys.

 

[Xorkoth]

Took some gabapentin today coz reasons and was really surprised to actually feel something from it, whereas previously I thought gabapentin did basically nothing for me. Tolerance break is working! Been thinking a fair bit about dissociatives I must admit, but that unfortunately would be over my self imposed imaginary line at the moment. Been thinking about which psychedelic I'll take next as well... that's not strictly over the (I realise fairly arbitrary sounding) line but, I'll give it another few months.

I love gabapentin, wish I still had some, it would help me a lot right now. I can feel it even at 300mg.

I've been experiencing pretty severe benzo rebound from dosing etizolam and bromazolam 24/7 for 2 days when I was binging on that NEP and 4-FMA. Saturday night was the last time and I'm still struggling though it's a little bit better, it's shocking to me how intense it has been. Virtually unable to sleep at all, lots of anxiety, extreme fatigue and bad mood, watering eyes, yawning, restlessness (a bit). I mean, the stim binge crash is certainly part of it too but not most of it. I took a little kratom to manage a couple of times, including today. Gotta be really careful with that, but I just really couldn't stand it anymore. Kratom helps a little bit, takes the edge off, it certainly doesn't make me feel good though.

The idea of stimulants is a big turn-off for me. I really hope it stays that way. My stimulant days need to be over, just straight up. That binge was stupid as fuck, not anywhere near worth it. I apparently really can't use benzos at all anymore, except if it's a little dose to come down from time to time, with a week or more clear on either side.

So yeah maybe I needed this because I sure was doing them a lot, even before that binge, I was pretty regularly doing propylhexedrine.

Intense times...

 

[TripSitterNZ]

everything in life really does improve after a long time without stimulants. Wish you the best i highly recommend quitting them. i use to be a tweaker and cringe back to the days of been a stim head. I did not even realize how crazy i was while i was on them til after i had quit for a long while. Really sunk in i wasted so many years totally wired and let so many good things slip away. Crazy part is idk how i even fucking afforded my stimulant use during those times looking back on my daily use and the price of drugs. Though when my friend got into meth he quickly he spent his entire life savings within a month. One week he spent like 6k on meth. That is how fast addiction gets out of hand.

Stimulants were a cycle of been so wired just working and doing whatever then mad porn sessions all night and then spend a decent amount of whatever i earnt for more stimulants while promptly losing all empathy and sanity i had. Could of had the hottest girlfriend during the height of my addiction if i was not a drug user sadly i did not see the effects of my drug use on interactions with others til i quit them. Though i feel like mdma addiction did a worse number on my brain. So i highly support those who want to quit them life can only get better from that point on. Recovery takes a while but it beats that lie that stimulants give us. Shit i truly thought i was living a millionaire lifestyle movie like a gangster when in reality i was no better than those crackheads who walk around the streets spourting all sorts of crazy stories and theories to passerbys.

Stimulants where the first drug i ever used starting with lines of speed at high school only at 14. Hooked til DMT freed me from it all.

Stimulant psychosis was truly bizzare thinking back to it. because deep in it you truly believe you are the most sane person alive. All those hours checking for CIA bugs in my house believing every phone call was been taped by the police and that the police was following me around in every car i saw go past. When in reality none of it happened also saw many shadow people and one night i spent shouting bible verses in the room because i believe demons were in it after i saw a shadow move through the wall and across the room. The days of been a tweaker i can laugh at myself now. Addiction to stimulants mainly started in college after using heavy ritalin daily without having adhd for years by then it was full dependence.

Here in NZ and australia people are really into stimulants and barley into opiate use which i find intresting change of demograhpe drug use and preference. Meth is by far the easiest drug to get in NZ even easier than cannabis.

Xorkoth if you have mushrooms i would try mircodosing them i found they helped me with my bad stimulant or mdma comedowns to make the day more manageable.

 

[Xorkoth]

I actually have never had stimulant psychosis (or any psychosis), the closest I got, I was RIGHT on the edge though, it was a year or so ago, maybe 2 years now, I had a bunch of hexen and I was doing it daily/nightly and sleeping a little bit with etizolam and went through 2 grams. What turned out to be the last night, it was I think the 7th day/night in a row, and I decided to try vaping it. I started hallucinating and hearing radio stations playing from objects in my house. It was actually really cool because I knew I was hallucinating. One of the radio stations was playing the most incredible music, a constant stream of music from my head into actually hearing. It was coming from my kitchen table. It was so real, although again, I knew it was a hallucination. Strange experience.

I woke up today feeling pretty good, I actually slept all night last night.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I ended up 'wasting' yesterday socializing. I think today after I get milk for Mrs. Gravy I'll just stay in and relax a bit, feeling high strung lately.

 

[Shadow Cat]

Really enjoyed this interwiew last night

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Really enjoyed this interwiew last night

Eric Andre is hilarious, my friends and I used to always watch his show after coming back from smoke sessions in college (lived on campus, had to go be a hoodlum in the woods lol) and I still enjoy his stuff. The DNC/RNC episodes in 2016 were great heheh.



I've got 200ug bupre plus 12mg norflurazepam in me so far today. Gonna add in 300ug more bupre and 20mg more norfluraz, plus some delta-8 in a bit. I have the evening to myself tonight, debating on whether or not to trip some psilacetin but I know I'll barely feel it if I do, what with all these downers in me.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Remembered my password btw, today completely random hahah, I love my brain man. Doesn't say much though, I love many peoples brains

 

[TripSitterNZ]

Was on the ketamine reddit when I saw a post and behold in it was the escort I once fucked last year shooting up ket. I was pretty surprised to come across that online. Damm if I knew that would of totally railed lines in the brothel though I always feel paranoid been in such places they are so fucking sketchy even though its legal here. The true dark side of society on display in the lobby. Though the girls looked so clean and pretty I would of never expected her to shoot up.

 

[Xorkoth]

lol, ketamine isn't the drug of choice for doing with an escort.

 

[Shadow Cat]

I have a really hard time fucking on Dissos personally like i can get it up genrally but its difficult for me to cum. This is dose and compound relative tho and on lighter doses of 3-MeO-PCP i did have some fun sexual encounters with the ex-wife from time to time. But if im really far gone on something like MXE sex isnt really my primary focus.

 

[Bella Figura]

The last time I tried having sex on K, I'm pretty sure I was holing or close to holing, all I could remember was seeing the girls face, losing touch of my body/self and because I was going to a wedding a couple of days later, I remember having marriage on my mind.

When I came to, I thought I had asked her to marry me first thing in the morning / shared all my darkest secrets and was consumed by massive amounts of fear and regret and kept asking her if I said anything, but wouldn't believe her when she was like 'I don't know what you're talking about'

'Please tell me what I said...'

'I really don't know what you're talking about...'

ad infinitum.

oh god.

 

[Xorkoth]

I have used tiny doses of 3-MeO-PCP to really good effect for sex, but even that was hit or miss. In general dissos make it harder to get it up than any other sort of drug. The idea of sex on ketamine seems like nonsense to me, I can't even see how it would be possible.

 

[Bella Figura]

It's not the greatest choice, another time we were mid-fucking and all of a sudden I saw flashing lights coming from outside. I thought it was the police and promptly jumped up and started running around in a panic. It was just a garbage truck or something then I crumpled up on the sofa whilst I came to terms with the fact I have no idea what's going on.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

never had sex on dissos. Maybe Viagra along with some 2cb with the ketamine could make it work and some mdma?

 

[Bella Figura]

I find it impossible to finish on MDMA. I only get serious dick problems with cocaine really.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

Anybody here hyper sensitive to caffeine. One cup of coffee in the morning and i get pretty wired heavy sweats anxiety and it seems to last in effects for a good 8-10 hours.

 

[Flynnal]

Anybody here hyper sensitive to caffeine. One cup of coffee in the morning and i get pretty wired heavy sweats anxiety and it seems to last in effects for a good 8-10 hours.

Yep. Not hyper sensitive but still quite sensitive. If I have too much I can get a bit anxious, but nothing like a panic attack which happened to a friend after she had too many espressos (I think it was like 5 double shots)...

With a small dose it tends to calm me down. Too much can make me either sleepy or slightly anxious, depending on whatever happens that day.