☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

[Jabberwocky]

took 4. redosed another two sometime around peaking and been railing fat fucking lines to my dome of s-iso dutch ket lol. 6 x 105 ug czech needlepoint man shit so fucking smooth and clear.

Woah. How can you even see to type!?

 

[TripSitterNZ]

Woah. How can you even see to type!?

the acid is fading off now man but for like 3-4 hours i was k holed out there in a land of crazy shit lol. i never been this fucking cooked before ever lol. 16 hours in and still trripping madd visuals

 

[pharmakos]

 

[TripSitterNZ]

gonna try dig up some last bits of edibles eat them rail shit loads of ket and try sleep finally lol

 

[TripSitterNZ]

man those edibles are sick way to end a acid trip man. autotripper knows what really is best i swear man you always keeping it real.

Edibles are so fucking nice man on the acid and ket.

Also man im exicited for the next gen step up of totally scaffolding drugs take place by AI. That shit would be insane to take man!.

 

[AutoTripper]

Haha, you mean….Californian WiFi Acid? I heard the comeup is really fast, plus if you are having a bad trip (as some nutters have like good and bad days), simple, just turn off the WiFi.

Lol, I can already see a TV commercial, some girl groaning, rolling around looking miserable.

The Deep advert voice says….”Having a bad trip? You don’t want it to go on any longer? If are still within your first 9 hours your right to cancel still applies for a 50% refund and complete return to normal.

For an extra $75 we can also erase all memory of the experience”


That’s actually a muse, as much as a joke.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

24 hours in and i can still see through the walls baby owesely fucking certified type shit man he once spent 3 days stuck outside staring at a lampost on acid shrooms mescaline and dmt all together lol. What a real fucking g chemist man.

 

[Xorkoth]

I just got back last night from a music festival we ran a stage for. Left on Wednesday, got there after 8 hours of driving, then built the stage and didn't go to bed til like 4am. Next day was a bunch of music. and LSD, and low key campfire jams around our fire. Then Friday we played our set so I tried to get a lot of rest and stayed sober until afterwards. Played a great set, kept running the stage until 2am, then actually got power down to our campsite and did full electric campfire jams until the sun rose, lots of people came. Did a little MDA too. I didn't sleep at all and then took DOC at like noon and had an amazing day, absolutely the best state to be in for a festival. I was totally on point, everyone was trying to hang out with me, I was talking to everybody, made a fweq new friends where we exchanged numbers, had endless great conversations. I started to fade around midnight though. All day random people had been telling me that the campfire jams I was leading were their favorite part of the festival so far, and to please do it again. So I did but didn't even get set up til 4am because of how late the last band went. By then I was basically unable to do pretty much anything, I was so tired. So I tried a bit and then let some other people take over and some good shit went down. Then at 6am I took etizolam and pased out hard, but only for 6 hours, then we had to pack up the stage and drive home. Got home at 11pm last night. Slept til 11am. Took the day off work, I'm gonna go lay down and watch TV and hopefully nap pretty soon after I eat something because I'm way tired still.

Worth it though. Great weekend. So much work to run one of those things though, god damn. Usually we just show up to play a set, sometimes we stay for the rest of it then. But facilitating a good set for every band, setting up/breaking down a whole stage and lights, etc etc... I hope everyone realizes how much work goes into the things you enjoy. I sure do now.

I feel like I haven't been able to fully relax in about six years now

Shit man, I'm sorry. How have you been? I was getting a bit worried about you after not posting for a bit.

im about to start a business selling my piss extract on the darknet, id do the clearnet but i think NMT might count as an analogue of DMT even tho it comes natural from my piss

...wut? lol

fuck man still flying high idk when ill ever come down lol ima rail more lines and let go.

3 days deep no fucking sleep

You'll come down when you stop taking drugs. Man 3 days with no sleep is so horrible for you, way, way worse than the drugs. You gotta sleep man. I just stayed up for 48 hours at the music festival and I've been absolutely fucked since yesterday morning. Took the day off work to just rest today.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Day off after a festival is indeed a must, I can not imagine a world without.

3 days no sleep is indeed very heavy, I went about 90 hours last/this week and I'm still destroyed, I think it was my max ever. I'm over the worst though, the heavy depression feels gone and I have fairly minimal responsibilities in the next few weeks. + it's summer which is fantastic.

 

[telepathetic]

I just got back last night from a music festival we ran a stage for. Left on Wednesday, got there after 8 hours of driving, then built the stage and didn't go to bed til like 4am. Next day was a bunch of music. and LSD, and low key campfire jams around our fire. Then Friday we played our set so I tried to get a lot of rest and stayed sober until afterwards. Played a great set, kept running the stage until 2am, then actually got power down to our campsite and did full electric campfire jams until the sun rose, lots of people came. Did a little MDA too. I didn't sleep at all and then took DOC at like noon and had an amazing day, absolutely the best state to be in for a festival. I was totally on point, everyone was trying to hang out with me, I was talking to everybody, made a fweq new friends where we exchanged numbers, had endless great conversations. I started to fade around midnight though. All day random people had been telling me that the campfire jams I was leading were their favorite part of the festival so far, and to please do it again. So I did but didn't even get set up til 4am because of how late the last band went. By then I was basically unable to do pretty much anything, I was so tired. So I tried a bit and then let some other people take over and some good shit went down. Then at 6am I took etizolam and pased out hard, but only for 6 hours, then we had to pack up the stage and drive home. Got home at 11pm last night. Slept til 11am. Took the day off work, I'm gonna go lay down and watch TV and hopefully nap pretty soon after I eat something because I'm way tired still.

Worth it though. Great weekend. So much work to run one of those things though, god damn. Usually we just show up to play a set, sometimes we stay for the rest of it then. But facilitating a good set for every band, setting up/breaking down a whole stage and lights, etc etc... I hope everyone realizes how much work goes into the things you enjoy. I sure do now.



Shit man, I'm sorry. How have you been? I was getting a bit worried about you after not posting for a bit.



...wut? lol



You'll come down when you stop taking drugs. Man 3 days with no sleep is so horrible for you, way, way worse than the drugs. You gotta sleep man. I just stayed up for 48 hours at the music festival and I've been absolutely fucked since yesterday morning. Took the day off work to just rest today.

NMT, the stuff in acacia confusa alongside the n,n-dmt, normethyltryptamine (great shit lasts an hour smoked, similar to mushrooms) is also a component naturally occurring in human urine. Thinking of STB extracting

 

[Jabberwocky]

Just tried my first dose of DMT. Plugged. 10 mg out of an abundance of caution. Thought I got nothing but then weird little flashes while typing made me think I got a couple of toes over the threshold level.

I was put off the idea of smoking by a worry the horrible smelling smoke would set of my smoke detectors or the dog when I became immobile. A barking madly dog at 4 AM in an apartment is not what you want while incapable of answering the angry neighbours bashing on the walls or door.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Pretty great radio piece from CBC on a guy (who was on staff there) that went through a ketamine treatment programme for his depression, who achieved some pretty remarkable results:

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-115-the-doc-project/clip/15851845-the-dosing-room

I really wonder how much of the therapeutic value of ketamine really just comes down to mechanical action of the drug itself, and how much of it can be attributed to a skill-full practice/practitioner. Do any of you who have experience with self-medicating with ketamine (or other dissociatives) for depression have any insight or opinion on the matter? I'm curious what the prospects are for self-medicating out of depression outside of a clinical setting for those who can't afford a pricey treatment programme. I'm not depressive myself.

 

[AutoTripper]

I think ketamine as much as any traditional psychedelic just literally scraps the hard drive of the Default Mode Network.

Hence it being IME and opinion, the best for really smoothing an acid trip without reducing it’s intensity or longevity. It just completely takes the edge off.

2003 to 2005 is when I was so privileged to have permanent local access to pure, freshly cooked ketamine (often to order, and unlike many of the drugs we discuss here, with ketamine fresh really is best.

We grew our own shrooms fully legally then, quality MDMA and acid plus the best Skunk was abound.

Those were my DOC’s. I was a mega MDMA freak but Acid with Ketamine is so special and divine.

LSD + MDMA + Psilocybin + Ketamine is indescribable too.

 

[AutoTripper]

I just got back last night from a music festival we ran a stage for. Left on Wednesday, got there after 8 hours of driving, then built the stage and didn't go to bed til like 4am. Next day was a bunch of music. and LSD, and low key campfire jams around our fire. Then Friday we played our set so I tried to get a lot of rest and stayed sober until afterwards. Played a great set, kept running the stage until 2am, then actually got power down to our campsite and did full electric campfire jams until the sun rose, lots of people came. Did a little MDA too. I didn't sleep at all and then took DOC at like noon and had an amazing day, absolutely the best state to be in for a festival. I was totally on point, everyone was trying to hang out with me, I was talking to everybody, made a fweq new friends where we exchanged numbers, had endless great conversations. I started to fade around midnight though. All day random people had been telling me that the campfire jams I was leading were their favorite part of the festival so far, and to please do it again. So I did but didn't even get set up til 4am because of how late the last band went. By then I was basically unable to do pretty much anything, I was so tired. So I tried a bit and then let some other people take over and some good shit went down. Then at 6am I took etizolam and pased out hard, but only for 6 hours, then we had to pack up the stage and drive home. Got home at 11pm last night. Slept til 11am. Took the day off work, I'm gonna go lay down and watch TV and hopefully nap pretty soon after I eat something because I'm way tired still.

Worth it though. Great weekend. So much work to run one of those things though, god damn. Usually we just show up to play a set, sometimes we stay for the rest of it then. But facilitating a good set for every band, setting up/breaking down a whole stage and lights, etc etc... I hope everyone realizes how much work goes into the things you enjoy. I sure do now.



Shit man, I'm sorry. How have you been? I was getting a bit worried about you after not posting for a bit.



...wut? lol



You'll come down when you stop taking drugs. Man 3 days with no sleep is so horrible for you, way, way worse than the drugs. You gotta sleep man. I just stayed up for 48 hours at the music festival and I've been absolutely fucked since yesterday morning. Took the day off work to just rest today.

Glad you found time and opportunity for a good time at last after it’s seemed you’ve been engaged, not in the mood or other real world shit so much of late.

Hope you enjoyed the acid and everything else. Sounds much like it and you have that extra sense of achievement too this time from managing the added responsibility, good job.

 

[AutoTripper]

Pretty great radio piece from CBC on a guy (who was on staff there) that went through a ketamine treatment programme for his depression, who achieved some pretty remarkable results:

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-115-the-doc-project/clip/15851845-the-dosing-room

I really wonder how much of the therapeutic value of ketamine really just comes down to mechanical action of the drug itself, and how much of it can be attributed to a skill-full practice/practitioner. Do any of you who have experience with self-medicating with ketamine (or other dissociatives) for depression have any insight or opinion on the matter? I'm curious what the prospects are for self-medicating out of depression outside of a clinical setting for those who can't afford a pricey treatment programme. I'm not depressive myself.

If this WAS cheap, and within reasonable travel….sign me up now, I’ll get there tomorrow.

Ketamine so much could help my own state of depression, anxiety, OCD.

But it is just prohibitively expensive, like £500 up, and I think possibly it’s all happening in Bristol too, a good 6 or 7 hour drive.

Basically, just nothing how it should be.

There is ketamine, pure pharma grade, within 120 metres from my house at the Town’s central hospital (I only go there once a blue moon on a stupidly high dose LSD panic attack lol true story, not since 2012 though on 2.5 mg’s one night.)

I could, potentially sneak into a temporarily deserted unlocked ambulance and have a raid around.

Just not my nature though, but @TripSitterNZ has reminded me how much I do love ketamine especially on acid.

 

[perpetualdawn]

@AutoTripper I think the programme cost him around C$4500 which is around 2500 quid.

Which begs the question.. how much of that benefit could a person gain at home with a gram ketamine, doing self-directed sessions?

 

[AutoTripper]

@AutoTripper I think the programme cost him around C$4500 which is around 2500 quid.

Which begs the question.. how much of that benefit could a person gain at home with a gram ketamine, doing self-directed sessions?

Yes, by £500 I meant…session one!

And it might be 5 or 6 sessions only so that equates.

Now, I, would be perfectly happy to conduct such a therapeutic healing regimen using ketamine, at home, by my own guidance.

With MDMA similar scenarios in therapy, I think it’s potentially far more important to have that controlled setting, assurance, support, direction etc.

As using MDMA in solidarity is potentially very troublesome for mental health balance…I know.

Ketamine is very different here.

I mean, once on it, everything and one in your surroundings virtually ceases to affect, influence or guide your own experience, although recreationally you can stay connected, engage, and real, life like shared vivid and memorable group hallucinations in K holes are a very real thing too.


Ketamine, just washes away. It doesn’t need coaching, counselling, integrating the same way, IMO.

Self control, sensible dosage, commitment to desired outcome all important.

Maybe even the outside service, support of a drug organisation such as one I will plan to visit myself very soon to seek advice from a team of doctors and nurses specialising in drug addiction as I have just dropped my insane Benzo use heavily with hopes to taper down safely shortly.


But, I do feel sensible, purposeful and positively minded ketamine use, at home, alone or with any good friends, can be done safely, and divinely enjoyably, to great effect at washing away trauma, cuts, scrapes…crap! Lol.

I really believe it’s one thing that could help myself so much with the insane bizarre conditions, irregularities, and especially some serious longterm conditioning from intense living and trauma- ptsd in a different way really. You don’t need to go to wars or be abused to acquire chronic trauma from stress, IMO.

So…wicked news. Mum just going to bed (not that, but…yeah, haha.)

She DID put the brolly over our Autoflowers, rainy patch. Saves exhausted me the look out and brolly up task phew. From my bedroom, just now:

 

[AutoTripper]

Day off after a festival is indeed a must, I can not imagine a world without.

3 days no sleep is indeed very heavy, I went about 90 hours last/this week and I'm still destroyed, I think it was my max ever. I'm over the worst though, the heavy depression feels gone and I have fairly minimal responsibilities in the next few weeks. + it's summer which is fantastic.

Ive managed 3 straight days and nights many times not a wink.

The extra margin there to 4 though, is like 350 ug to 985 or something, that 4th on the trot.

I must have done it though.

One week, 8 days solid end year student parties, so many places to go, I know I took about 80 e’s, but slept 15 hours total.

After 8th night, returned home from a coastal cottage party to say final goodbyes to my (straight but close friend) housemates.

A good 11 e’s in me, tripping to fuck lol.

I laid down on my bed for a moment….slept 24 hours.

Another crazy weekend 2004, about 30 good e’s, 3 super acid trips on 3rd morning, ketamine non stop plus real skunk.

3 nights, I went home Monday, slept like log exactly 14 hours, not a blink.

Got up, went out, sunny, 3.5 hours later, still so damn cained back to bed another 14 hours straight exactly! Best sleep ever too.

 

[VerbalTruist]

@Xorkoth DOC is a great festival drug. I haven't ever been able to do the long weekend of straight partying with no sleep... After about 40 hours I get... Mentally lost.

 

[AutoTripper]

So to bash it out, eg….6 am rise Friday morning one festival, didn’t sleep except momentary loss of consciousness among friends late Monday night, until about midnight.

Just one time as a model….24, 24, 24, (from 6 am Monday to 12 am Tuesday…18 = NINETY. LOL. I actually went to work 7 am the next morning too, labouring on a building site.

I’m sure I’ve stayed longer, when at University but was messy times.