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Xorkoth

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My friend says the FFA is like twice as potent and lasts for less time. What's been your experience with the effects of FAA vs HCL?

I waited 7 days between phenibut doses last time. Right now it's been 5 days since the last time, and I feel fine. I really want to keep phenibut in my life for occasional use as it's such a wonderful drug. But I dunno, every time I quit and get back to it, eventually I become dependent. This time it was because of GHB, but I was skirting the edge before GHB.
 

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What your friend is saying has been my experience with it pretty much as well. It kicks in alot faster when you take it sublingual I can feel alerts in half hour when I'm spitting it out, within 2 hours I'm at the peak and feeling fantastic. I'm sure it does last less time but I still feel it the whole day pretty much if I take it in the morning, I'm sure the half life is still long it just absorbs better so you aren't waiting around for it to kick in like HCL.

As far as the high is concerned it feels the same to me...awesome. Can't wait to get the stuff saturday I hope the mailman comes early in the day and I can get a full days bliss. Last time I had some the first dose back was one of the best I've had in years. I will have 60 grams which is thirty doses for me so if I spread it out right I'll have enough for months.
 

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@Xorkoth honestly I really can't put much of the phenibut buzz into words. I will say that my wife takes less of the FAA than she did the HCL before, while I still just always opt for one gram with either form. But I have such a rapid metabolism (for all drugs/foods/etc.) that the come-up from even the HCL was noticeable within 30 minutes without fail. Today I didn't notice it much till later in the day, but I've drank (somewhat heavily) daily for the past week and thus might be less sensitive at the moment. My job really sucks and my wife has commented that I seem to be rescinding into alcoholism... somewhat concerning but it's hard for me to go a day without some sort of downer abuse to be quite frank.
 

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I'm always kinda surprised phenibut has stayed legal. It's really one of my very favorite drugs.
Don't jinx it man, Mrs. Gravy and I need phenibut. It makes the worst work days tolerable without even feeling like I'm buzzed.
 

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@Xorkoth honestly I really can't put much of the phenibut buzz into words. I will say that my wife takes less of the FAA than she did the HCL before, while I still just always opt for one gram with either form. But I have such a rapid metabolism (for all drugs/foods/etc.) that the come-up from even the HCL was noticeable within 30 minutes without fail. Today I didn't notice it much till later in the day, but I've drank (somewhat heavily) daily for the past week and thus might be less sensitive at the moment. My job really sucks and my wife has commented that I seem to be rescinding into alcoholism... somewhat concerning but it's hard for me to go a day without some sort of downer abuse to be quite frank.
I feel you man, I do some sort of downer every day lately too. :\

How long does phenibut last for you? I mean I get some little effect within an hour but that euphoric, hypomanic, carefree amazing state doesn't ever hit until hour 5 or so. And then it lasts like 30 hours.
 

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really want to get my hands on some more 5-meo dmt. Been a while. Could of got some in the previous few months but skipped on it also need somewhere from civilization to do it. Watching mike tysons podcasts hes telling all his friends to try out the toad. The massive shift in him is so amazing to see. Last time freed me from stimulant addiction gained weight from 55 kg to 80 kg finally no longer looked like a walking zombie. Need some heavy guidance to move me back onto a straight path from the other world.

All nootropics got classified here two years ago before then it was easy to get them online domestically as supplements. Some people still bring them in but the price range is kind of fucked for phenibut.
 

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How long does phenibut last for you? I mean I get some little effect within an hour but that euphoric, hypomanic, carefree amazing state doesn't ever hit until hour 5 or so. And then it lasts like 30 hours.
I start to feel max effects at about hour 3 after dosing, and then it lasts all day. If I take it after the morning, I usually have trouble getting out of bed the next morning. Back in 2014-15, I was late to my job dozens of times because of taking Phenibut later in the day, at high doses - high for me is 1g+, I usually take 300-450mg now - and it, without fail, had me sleeping in anywhere from 30 minutes to 3 hours. I ended up getting fired because of coming in late so often. Given, that was more than a Phenibut issues, but still.
 

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How long does phenibut last for you? I mean I get some little effect within an hour but that euphoric, hypomanic, carefree amazing state doesn't ever hit until hour 5 or so. And then it lasts like 30 hours.
I also can't really tell how long it lasts lol. There's certainly a body buzz that comes on in the latter half of the day when I take it, a certain warmth in my legs I kinda associate with being a few beers deep, and I become a little manic (i.e. I'm friendly and chatty with strangers when normally I'm introverted/hostile). It doesn't seem to help me with sleep or overlap into the next day though. As you might already know I'm required to take benzodiazepines for pain daily so I tend to only get sleep with their aid at this point. I also haven't ever dosed phenibut later than noon ever so it's hard to say it has ever lasted that long. It does last long enough to cover an entire 8 hour shift plus an hour prior to work and usually an hour or two after work till I start to add in beer or benzos and I start to lose the ability to differentiate buzzes.

So yeah, lasts maybe 10-12 hours I'd say? Hard to tell though. Maybe closer to 16, with peak effects at 3-8 hours post dosing, but first alerts at 30 min and mostly full effects by 1hr 30min. I follow the 3 days off regimen and never break it, usually only using it once a week when I know I'll otherwise have a shit day, and it has been a valuable ally so far in the fight against crippling depression.



I've really been binging hard on beer lately. Psilacetin is my go to psych currently (simply due to a surplus, not that it's actually a favorite of mine tbh) but because I hate the first half's tendency to cause extreme introspection/self-loathing I tend to drink 10-12 beers during the experience, and that's at least 1 or 2 nights a week. My wife is starting to comment/worry about how much I've been drinking... she's like, "One drink after work is alright CG?... 3-12 daily is not."
 

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Weird, Phenibut never made me sleepy. Kinda the opposite even, I would say.
Phenibut has a paradoxical effect for me where if I lay down and close my eyes I can become extremely sleepy and then I will sleep really hard. But if I'm up and doing stuff, it's energizing.
 

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Makes me wired. Comes on within an hour but increases in zest for the next few hours. Lasts all day and music sounds fucking awesome - like more fucking awesome than usual.

I took pregabalin with it today. Bit hypomanic.

I just bought a keyboard online. A decent one. picking it up tomorrow. Play some music over the weekend.
 

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I had a brief "love affair" with Phenibut back around 2016 but I found it a bit unstable and unpredictable in the way it affected me.

It seemed to hit me in 3 waves: After 3 hours, 5 hours and 7 hours. Each "evolution" became less speedy and more sedating.

If I went to sleep within that 3-7 hour mark, I had insanely vivid, almost psychedelic dreams that seemed to last forever. It was cool except when they turned to nightmares because I couldn't wake myself up or change the scenery even after they became lucid.

If I took too much before bed (anywhere from 2,000 mg. to much more), I woke up with the most head-crushing hangover of my life. It literally felt as though the inside of my skull was on fire (and vibrating somehow, too.)

Oh yeah, and the next day I would get this strange side effect where my vision would jerk to the side and I would feel like I was falling through the floor or something. It was like when you first step off of a rollercoaster, but only lasted a second. Or if you have ever come off of any medication like benzos or SSRI antidepressants and experienced "head zaps", it was a lot like that too.

I think that if I had it now I would be more careful with it and find my "sweet spot" dosage where it could beneficial. Back then I was a self-proclaimed "lab rat" and didn't give much thought to safety.

Peace, Love and Faith,
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Phenibut has a paradoxical effect for me where if I lay down and close my eyes I can become extremely sleepy and then I will sleep really hard. But if I'm up and doing stuff, it's energizing.
If I take it an hour before bed I will sleep for like 10-14 hours...but when I use it during the day and dose early I dont get sleepy at all. It's a pretty versatile substance for me in that regard, sometimes I will take in the AM when I get up and then do a redose in the late PM before bed and count that as one day. I will still feel it when I wake up for like 8 or 10 hours and have a really nice morning. Really looking forward to tommrow.
 

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I took pregabalin with it today. Bit hypomanic.
I just took 1.5g of phenibut, since it's been about a week. I'll probably take 500mg more soon. In recent times I've been taking 3-3.5g in a day when I take it, so I'm going to see if 2g will do it for me now that I seem to be past physical dependence.

When I quit everything addictive soon in the cabin detox (fuck I have to try to find an AirBnB since our cabin fell through...), I really wish to be able to still use phenibut from time to time. I find it not compulsuive at all, but the problem is, so far I have always eventually had my usage creep up until I have light physical dependence, in the past.
 

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@Xorkoth

Sorry about the cabin situation. You'll figure something out. I'm using this time of isolation in my own home as my personal mental, physical and spiritual retreat. With all that I've overcome in the past few years (opioid addiction, my father's death, financial ruin, etc.), there's still a lot that I need to work on:

The urge to self-medicate with things like alcohol and benzos, my negative thinking that sabotages everything I want to do, my unresolved anger over things that happened when I was very young, etc.

Anyway, I didn't mean to make this be all about me; My reason for writing was that you'll be in my thoughts and prayers.

Sincerely,
Dreamflyer
 

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Weird, Phenibut never made me sleepy. Kinda the opposite even, I would say.
It doesn't make me sleepy at all. It energizes me, even, like you hinted at. I'm saying that if taken later in the day, I will have trouble getting out of bed the next morning.
 

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Really hope brother man has got the bloomers. Haven't had mushrooms in awhile and I wanna trip so badly right now. Kinda stressing about it but cant ask on the phone cuz he's super paranoid, don't blame him. Pretty much always does tho I only went there once and he was out in the three years I've known him. Always has 25-30 strains of bud and occasionally LSD.

Well I'm sure I'm gonna get something worthwhile regardless but I'd be a little disappointed if I just came back with Cannabis. And I had to setup a time slot for the appointment and it has a minimum to be served there. Pretty dope ass underground dispensary up here in the city, it's my favorite place to buy Weed ever. Like it better than my delivery service due to the fact they carry psychedelics...
 

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I never pass 1.25g with phenibut. Something about it feels a bit too much at that point. My wife doesn't use more than 500-750mg. It's such a subtle drug that I feel pushing it is unnecessary and really rather defeats the purpose of using it; that is, I only use it for utility, it's great for helping me overcome stressful days.

I really wish I could trip and drink tonight as I have tomorrow off work... but I work till 10pm tonight which would leave me starting at 11pm or so which is rather untenable. If there's one thing I hate lately, it's losing sleep.
 

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Well I used to never pass 1.5g, usually more like 1g, but that was before like 14 years of using it and being dependent on it multiple times in that period of time. My first year using it I did it every day and went up to like 3, 3.5 grams. I just have a perma-tolerance.
 
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