Sorry to hear about your dog,I know how hard that is,over the years I have lost a few myself and it's never easy.It's like losing a family member.Sorry for you!Today is a living hell,I hurt so bad,death would be a relief but I have never been one to take the easy way out.I did call early enough to ge an appt with my primary care doctor,maybe he will do his duty and help me.I fired my PM doctor first thing this morning to avoid the doctor shopping bullshit.I hate those people with a passion.I have done everything I can to get some relief but to no avail.I can not go on like this much longer,I am going to end up doing something stupid if I can't get some relief from this crap.I knew my back would hurt but didn't think it would be unbearable but it is to say the least.Thanks for your conversation and concern,it means more than you know.Once again I am so sorry for your loss.
Opioids oxycodone cold turkey or er oxycontin?
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DixiChik
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What time is your appointment? I hope it's sooner than later. Have you ever gotten injections in your spine? They help some folks. Even a shot of Decadron helps me, but it can be harmful if taken on regular basis. Perhaps ask him about it?
Another thought...Are you drinking enough water? Dehydration with your WDs will cause your kidneys and lower back to HURT SO BAD. Try to get plenty of liquid intake...force it.
I'm sorry you're hurting. I know that pain. Sometimes I hurt so badly, I envision ripping out the pain like a savage. Crazy, I know, but we know that constant pain with every move will drive us crazy. I SO HOPE your GP will help you. Try to keep calm and convey your pain levels and your desire to stop Oxycodone. Choke your anger back, because he may not respond well. Make notes to take with you, so that you are coherent. I'm sending positive thoughts. Anxious to hear what happens...hopefully a new plan of relief.
Thank you for your condolences about my beloved Dalmatian. We can't make eye contact without bawling. Her sissy is lost. So are we.
Beyond sad.
Another thought...Are you drinking enough water? Dehydration with your WDs will cause your kidneys and lower back to HURT SO BAD. Try to get plenty of liquid intake...force it.
I'm sorry you're hurting. I know that pain. Sometimes I hurt so badly, I envision ripping out the pain like a savage. Crazy, I know, but we know that constant pain with every move will drive us crazy. I SO HOPE your GP will help you. Try to keep calm and convey your pain levels and your desire to stop Oxycodone. Choke your anger back, because he may not respond well. Make notes to take with you, so that you are coherent. I'm sending positive thoughts. Anxious to hear what happens...hopefully a new plan of relief.
Thank you for your condolences about my beloved Dalmatian. We can't make eye contact without bawling. Her sissy is lost. So are we.
Beyond sad.
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Hey tnvol44 -
So im new here - literallt registered today
And not the most experienced user and most of my experience and knowledge has been gained the last 3 years due to health issues and drug habit from that
To give you my opinion - i have been on 500ml per week oxynorm (oxycodone 5mg/ml solution oral) and also 56x5mg slow release oxycontin which was taken in varying forms - yet mainly crushed up and swallowed
Now iv come off morphine before and even faced the demon that is Fentantyl ( a 1600mcg DAILY habit - how i survived i still dont know ) but let me tell you this - despite all that when i try to come off oxycodone cold turkey - it completely destroys me - i mean the aches, shivers and temperature fluctuations begin within first 12 hours and stayed with me well into 8-9 days at which point i became so ill i ended up in hospital which before i could muster up the strength to talk to nurses id been dosed with IV morphine 20mg! Mainly due to previous notes on my health and they knew my tolerance was high but that ended my cold turkey - now im bot saying all of these symptoms was the withdrawal as i mentioned i have recovered from serious health issues non drug or substance related at all - yet even when i run out of the drug on a saturday evening with prescription not picked up till monday - that sunday is written off as im useless on it! Even if i took 60ml/mg the night before! After 10-12 hours it kicks in .. Hard!
Now that being said cold turkey is IMO not recommended - i found that by slowly reducing it can be tapered down rapidly - again i could be used to 60-90mg per day instant release yet within a couple days i could reduce to 15-20 mg a day IR to 10 mg slow release with a g top up all within 5 days - now i always end up back on mainly as i still require pain meds -
I hope this made sense - again newbie feedback taken in good spirit guys - but cold turkey is awful on this drug yet personaly found as long as a small amount in system it keeps the awful symptoms at bay and becomes more of a discomfort thing than feeling really unwell situation
Sorry for long winded post i will aim to be more concise and precise in future
So im new here - literallt registered today
And not the most experienced user and most of my experience and knowledge has been gained the last 3 years due to health issues and drug habit from that
To give you my opinion - i have been on 500ml per week oxynorm (oxycodone 5mg/ml solution oral) and also 56x5mg slow release oxycontin which was taken in varying forms - yet mainly crushed up and swallowed
Now iv come off morphine before and even faced the demon that is Fentantyl ( a 1600mcg DAILY habit - how i survived i still dont know ) but let me tell you this - despite all that when i try to come off oxycodone cold turkey - it completely destroys me - i mean the aches, shivers and temperature fluctuations begin within first 12 hours and stayed with me well into 8-9 days at which point i became so ill i ended up in hospital which before i could muster up the strength to talk to nurses id been dosed with IV morphine 20mg! Mainly due to previous notes on my health and they knew my tolerance was high but that ended my cold turkey - now im bot saying all of these symptoms was the withdrawal as i mentioned i have recovered from serious health issues non drug or substance related at all - yet even when i run out of the drug on a saturday evening with prescription not picked up till monday - that sunday is written off as im useless on it! Even if i took 60ml/mg the night before! After 10-12 hours it kicks in .. Hard!
Now that being said cold turkey is IMO not recommended - i found that by slowly reducing it can be tapered down rapidly - again i could be used to 60-90mg per day instant release yet within a couple days i could reduce to 15-20 mg a day IR to 10 mg slow release with a g top up all within 5 days - now i always end up back on mainly as i still require pain meds -
I hope this made sense - again newbie feedback taken in good spirit guys - but cold turkey is awful on this drug yet personaly found as long as a small amount in system it keeps the awful symptoms at bay and becomes more of a discomfort thing than feeling really unwell situation
Sorry for long winded post i will aim to be more concise and precise in future
I am ok,LOL,I just haven't been on the computer in the last couple days.My pcp will be taking over my pm until I can find a good pm.My doctor agreed to help find me a good one that actually looks out for your well being.I am on 10mgx4 daily and it helps but my pain levels are 7+ all day.He said I should be on an er pain med plus a few ir for breakthrough but he can't do that much for me a pain specialist has to,he told me he knew what he was giving me wasn't enough but that is all he can do by dea law?Anyway just wanted to let you know how it's going.I have so much shit at the same time going on,I don't know whether I'm coming or going.I will be back on here later or tomorrow and see if you were here,just now saw where you commented and wanted to write something quick.TTYL
EagleM you are right as rain,but you can only taper so much for so long and eventually have to jump off.The withdrawl will more than likely be bad no matter how it's done.This is by far the hardest thing I have ever done was to come off that horrid shit oxycodone.My ignorant dr just kept upping my oxy ir instead of going with an er and something for breakthrough.Not only do I have chronic pain,I have chronic acute pain,that shit ain't easy to deal with,it can be done but sadly it takes a doctor that actually gives a shit about your health.I wouldn't advise anyone come off a lot of oxy cold,I went from 100mg ir to 40mg er to zero,and it hurt me twice,when I could have only been hurt once.The initial drop from 100mg ir to 40mg er,it was like taking nothing,still got sick and had wd then again wd after jump off.This drug is nothing to be playing around with,period.
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SO RELEIVED...I've been concerned with no word since PCP. Thank goodness he's TRYING to help you with "bridge meds" and help you to find a good PM doctor. Hey...If you find a good one who considers the body as a whole, treating not only the pain but the health and well-being...Holla! I've used Baptist Pain Center in Memphis (in 2005-06). There were 2 good specialists there, but they really pushed epidurals/spine injections. Those help a lot of people, but of course NOT ME.
I understand "the shit going on"...believe me. I'm eyeball deep as the Messiah for my extended family issues. Yet the concern or assistance is not reciprocated. My husband and I have survived this weekend of GRIEF and SADNESS from losing our Dal. I was never able to have children, though we wanted them. Our dogs are our daughters!
Don't go missing for too long. I know from experience that I get so discouraged I could swing from a noose. However, I think it would be a waste of good rope. Gotta keep a salty sense of humor...often macabre.
I understand "the shit going on"...believe me. I'm eyeball deep as the Messiah for my extended family issues. Yet the concern or assistance is not reciprocated. My husband and I have survived this weekend of GRIEF and SADNESS from losing our Dal. I was never able to have children, though we wanted them. Our dogs are our daughters!
Don't go missing for too long. I know from experience that I get so discouraged I could swing from a noose. However, I think it would be a waste of good rope. Gotta keep a salty sense of humor...often macabre.
I wrote a long page lol,it wouldn't post.I am miserable,depressed,and just kind of numb and bored.I thought getting off the high dose of oxy would be the hardest thing to do.It was bad but pales in comparison to losing my fiancee.We were made for each other,the kind of people that are grateful for finding each other.It was only four years but that was more than enough to make me miss her.We have been apart since april,it hasn't got one bit easier either.I know everything was my fault and I will take it as a very valuable lesson,but that doesn't make it any easier.I know things will get better,I don't know when,soon I hope.I don't even look at other women yet,I know I have done everything I can to resolve it but it just isn't going to happen.It's hard to move on and I haven't yet but I have acknowledged it's over.I think I need something for depression for sure.I have just been in the house cooped up sometimes for days at a time without seeing the sunshine or being outside.Anyone that knows me,understands my love for the outdoors.I just haven't been myself,I might need to level out and remove myself from my situation for a little while.Meanwhile,I will just keep doing my best to battle back from this fucked up year and try to get back to the real me.
Yeah you definitely need a good doctor see i also had cronic acute pain
In hospital for 3 months on IV Opiates constantly left with a 1800mcg IR per day FENTANYL Habit - i dont know what that reputation is like in the USA but here in UK that drug is strong...
That withdrawal was a long drawn out and difficult time and i can relate to crappy years
Oxy is what they gave me to come off fentantyl - and as much as it helped i agree this drug oxy is nothing to play around with in high doses!
I am regularly prescribed it (ir 500mg in ml solution form) and er 5mg tablets 2-4 per day so far i havnt come off successfully just seem to taper and then when it gets tough ill just take the dose or double and forget about it for a night
But it takes over without having it i cant enjoy my evening even missing small amounts!
Hope your year improves
In hospital for 3 months on IV Opiates constantly left with a 1800mcg IR per day FENTANYL Habit - i dont know what that reputation is like in the USA but here in UK that drug is strong...
That withdrawal was a long drawn out and difficult time and i can relate to crappy years
Oxy is what they gave me to come off fentantyl - and as much as it helped i agree this drug oxy is nothing to play around with in high doses!
I am regularly prescribed it (ir 500mg in ml solution form) and er 5mg tablets 2-4 per day so far i havnt come off successfully just seem to taper and then when it gets tough ill just take the dose or double and forget about it for a night
But it takes over without having it i cant enjoy my evening even missing small amounts!
Hope your year improves
I know what you mean by the small amounts,I had to WD twice on a taper,lol,I should have just went CT,would have been better in the long run.I just didn't want to stress the heart out,have a stent from a major heart attack ten years ago.I was only taking 100mg ir but if I took just 80mg,I would wake up in a crazy sweat,if I missed that bedtime dose,there was a problem.I don't know what I will do,whether to take this hellish pain or go back on some hardcore meds.I can get by on meds now 4x10mgperc daily but that is all I do,is get by.No activity,and I can manage to get through the day,it's only tolerable.I was getting so much more done while I was taking all that and felt so much better.I guess to get something you have to give something,I don't know whether to struggle and hurt or achieve and be pain free.To most that would be an easy decision but to me,it's rather difficult.If I had a pain doc that cared about my well being I would go on meds.It seems lots of these pain specialist are only out for the money.Get you dependent on something then hold you hostage for it.
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If you want pain relief without "losing yourself" (I no wat u mean same shit happened to me) try a low dose of generic opana er and here's the most important part SWALLOW it. Taken properly is it the best for pain. If u abuse it after a while u will be fucked nothing els will touch u and if for some reason u run out ur gonna Wana die is worse than anything else in my opinion