Coming from an avid user, once you throw opiates in the mix their will always be that little something missing when you dose either separately.
Point blank, when I try any drug for the first time I take it in it's purest form without any other substance. In doing so I get a clean assessment of my experience, and can appreciate each induvidual aspect the drug. However, after feeling I've experienced all the drug has to offer- more often then not I'll combine it with a substance I have more experience with
Rule of Thumb: If I'm not combining Weed+_____ then I thouroghly reaserch both potential interactions and experience reports. Alot of things can kill you, and you never know you're dead until you're dead.
But, to each his own.
Assuming you're dosing
orally and still hell-bent on combining adderall with you first opiate experience, you may want to consider an important possibility Plur brought up.
I took a tiny piece of a sub a few days back and 75 mg of adderall. Got violently sick. Puked for a few hours. Don't recommend it at all
Even though Suboxone differs slightly from Oxycodone, the above post is still a great example of the potential down side to a "psuedo-speedball". In my experience Opiates are notorious for causing nausea, more so then any other drug I've tried aside from peyote. And, the combination of amps+opies will occasionally cause me to actually throw up which, mind you, never happens to me on either drug alone.
Opiates+stimulants could result in nausea and subsequent vomiting which might potentially ruin the experience.
First, if you did indeed dose orally, and unfortunately happen to vomit within the first hour after dosing you'll have only absorbed a portion of your dose.(which I've found to be quite frustrating, especially in a group where you're the only one who's puked
)
Second,
and this may just be me, nausea alone -regardless of whether the drug is fully absorbed or not- severely dampens my amp experience. Because, I Absolutely.Hate.Puking. Not only does the physical feeling suck, their's also having to go through my ritual of lying down, breathing slowly, sipping water, and forcing myself to eat a light snack just to overcome the feeling that I might puke. And, since I usually enjoy amps with a few friends at home, if I become nauseous I have to remove myself from the commotion while I overcome it, and that means missing out on parts of the bro-bonding and lovely nonsensical conversations. I have great friends that understand 100%; it's still an upsetting scenario.
I tip my hat to those who vomit with grace.
And yet, all this can be avoided by dosing via a different route:
IV(It's like opening Pandora's Box, Not Recommended)
Intranasal(not recommended for amphetamines, or any drug for that matter & repeated use can lead to some nasty health effects)
Sublingual (similar to oral, except I find the onset quicker, and the duration shorter. Recommended for certain drugs, some are less bioavailable this way)
Rectally (My preferred ROA mainly because it takes few mg's to produce the desired effects, the onset is quicker, and duration longer. Their's also the added bonus of stomach contents and vomiting having no effect on the bioavailibility.. However, other, more smellier things will ruin absorption. Recommended only if you've practiced) .
If you do choose to dose through any ROA other then orally
make sure you've done your reaserch and have all necessary tools, proper hygiene, and know the different bioavailabilities- adjusting your dose accordingly.
I hope the ramblings of my personal experience feed your mind well.
Again, Why spoil the magic of a new experience?
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