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Current Events Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

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The fatality rate (it varies a lot, particularly with age and possibly strain) for SARS (another coronavirus) was about 10%, which is quite high.
This coronavirus seems to be more contagious but less severe, but it’s early days.

Here are some opinions from public health experts;
 

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The fatality rate (it varies a lot, particularly with age and possibly strain) for SARS (another coronavirus) was about 10%, which is quite high.
This coronavirus seems to be more contagious but less severe, but it’s early days.
Some stats for context:

As of today there have been 41 deaths and 1,370 cases, which gives a fatality ratio of about 3%.

There were 8,000 cases of SARS over 9 months, and this new one has only been known for about a month.
 

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Been watching the news on this. Quite breath-taking (ill-intended pun, I'm sure). I'm sure a city like where I live wouldn't fare too well if this started bouncing around the whole globe but I'm not scared.
 

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The virus finally made it to Canada. I'm surprised it didn't get here earlier, given the huge Chinese expat communities in Toronto and Vancouver.
 

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This site is spammy so I’m pasting all the story text here:

China Virus Death Toll Rises To 56, Total Cases Near 2,000
The death toll from a virus in China has risen to 56 and the number of people infected across the country is nearing 2,000, authorities said Sunday.

Fifteen more people have died and at least 688 new cases of the coronavirus have now been confirmed, according to the National Health Commission.

Among the new deaths, 13 were in Hubei, the province at the heart of the outbreak, while Shanghai reported its first death.

At least 52 people have now died in total in Hubei, two in central Henan province, one in Heilongjiang in the northeast and one in Hebei in the north.

Hubei's health authorities separately reported 323 new confirmed cases of the virus, which first emerged in the provincial capital, Wuhan, in late December.

Chinese authorities have so far reported 1,975 cases nationwide.

Chinese President Xi Jinping has warned of a 'grave situation' as the government scrambles to contain a viral outbreak

President Xi Jinping warned Saturday that China faced a "grave situation" as authorities raced to contain a respiratory illness that has caused the widespread abandonment of Lunar New Year celebrations nationwide and overwhelmed health facilities in Hubei.

The contagion remained centred on the Hubei provincial capital of Wuhan, which accounted for seven of the new deaths and 46 of the new confirmed cases, said the Hubei Health Commission.

Wuhan and more than a dozen other cities in the province have been locked down in a rapidly expanding quarantine effort marked by transport shutdowns and other restrictions on movement.

The previously unknown virus has caused global concern because of its similarity to the SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) pathogen, which killed hundreds across mainland China and Hong Kong in 2002-2003.

It also has struck at possibly the worst time for China, when hundreds of millions of people are travelling across the country or overseas to celebrate the Lunar New Year holiday, China's most important festival.

Hundreds of military doctors have been sent to Hubei and authorities are rushing to build a pair of field hospitals to deal with the crisis as patients swamp local medical facilities.

The virus has spread nationwide in China and cases have been reported in several other countries as far away as the United States, France and Australia.
 

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The virus finally made it to Canada. I'm surprised it didn't get here earlier, given the huge Chinese expat communities in Toronto and Vancouver.

Imagine after Chinese new year . Our government should have stopped flights but you know our government, cant offend anyone and china basically owns us
 

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>sars in 2003-2004, bush is re-elected
>corona 2020, trump?

COINCIDENCE? :D


90000 people? 😨

Panic? Cue 12 monkeys theme song.
 

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@Hylight : Think its mainly the public health issue, as its pneumonic and also the danger to those immunocompromised ( which is valid).
An interesting wee, vid on virology 101

2 confirmed cases in the USA now, Chicago is next, put it on lockdown like they tried to do in Wuhan and the rest of China. It just seems like the flu really, not even an agressive strain? So far anyways, ~4000 infected and 26 dead atm. Heard on the news 2 confirmed cases in France as well, great.

@Asclepius I don't trust hedgehogs either, look at this one I caught chomping on a sick bird that dropped dead out of the tree. That thing is harboring some serious diseases.
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wait, that is not in any way delicious. (Does this mean I go to go throw out my hedgehog steaks? - all those hours of spike excision wasted :/))
 

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It's curious that Hubei province, the epicentre, has only 51% of the cases but 95% of the deaths. Is this just a delay since the people there most likely caught the disease first, or something else?
 

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It's curious that Hubei province, the epicentre, has only 51% of the cases but 95% of the deaths. Is this just a delay since the people there most likely caught the disease first, or something else?
Where are the rest of the cases? My first suspicion would be a difference in health care in the relevant regions.

The part I don't get. And I've tried repeatedly to get an answer from googling.. Is why exactly this warrants such alarm.

Is it all just bullshit? I mean sure, we don't want extra people dying if it can be prevented. And sure, a serious 1918 style pandemic is certainly alarming...

But so far this seems similar to SARS yeah? And I pose my question of SARS too.

The number of people killed by these diseases is a fraction of the number killed every year by regular influenza. Nobody says shit about the people who die from the regular flu.

But one that's even slightly more aggressive is big news? Why?

I certainly get the global medical community paying close attention. But the media and community response seems like bs to me.
 

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Gee...it would be a dumb idea to crack down on illegal selling of wildlife at markets since this is an interspecies virus.

Good place to start though,.
 

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Another confirmed case in Toronto. It has a 20 day incubation so we will see more. Our government won't ban flights though
 

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Is why exactly this warrants such alarm.

Is it all just bullshit? I mean sure, we don't want extra people dying if it can be prevented. And sure, a serious 1918 style pandemic is certainly alarming...

But so far this seems similar to SARS yeah? And I pose my question of SARS too.

The number of people killed by these diseases is a fraction of the number killed every year by regular influenza. Nobody says shit about the people who die from the regular flu.

But one that's even slightly more aggressive is big news? Why?

I certainly get the global medical community paying close attention. But the media and community response seems like bs to me.
Well, the history and ubiquity of some flu does lead to underestimation of deadliness, especially in some younger people. The severity of the flu really does need to be emphasized more. Along with other ubiquitous causes of death.

Relative novelty and media hype does contribute of course.

We have attempts for vaccines for the flu, and some minor disease modifiers (neuraminidase inhibitors, that cap snatching interference drug baloxavir, others). Not the same for the coronavirus so far.

Biologically there are a few differences. While both are single stranded RNA viruses, influenza is more of a (-) sense RNA virus (BMore V) with a different cap strategy and some unique elements, while the coronaviruses are (+) sense RNA (BMore IV) and differ in other cellular mechanisms. I think the (+)ssRNA can directly replicate in the cytoplasm while the flu goes through some cycle in the nucleus with different targets. So possible treatments may not be the same.

Not a virology person though (Baltimore class even used?).

Still hype and novelty of new diseases, as well as stories (the markets/animals), always produce news.


EDIT: SARS coronavirus was also nasty for affecting broadly upper and lower respiratory tracts, as such getting the syndrome.
 

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Been watching the news on this. Quite breath-taking (ill-intended pun, I'm sure). I'm sure a city like where I live wouldn't fare too well if this started bouncing around the whole globe but I'm not scared.
omg. i don't even remember posting in here.

it's supposed to spread really fast if it is going
to take down . . . the global population.

it seems to be getting contained really well. 56 million quarantine.

also its not spreading too fast right now. only 5 here in the U.S. right now.

extremely weird.

death viruses seem to happen in the winter.

i think it shall take alot to kill the planet.

pretty much all might just die slow painful heinous ludicrous toxic and sad.

stay healthy. be strong.

how dare you !
 
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