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How much phenprobamate would be safe to take with your regular dose of opiate (opium in my case)? I read that it potentiates the effects of opiates and one can get the desired effects from opiates with a lower dose if taken in combination with phenprobamate. By the way, it is a centrally acting skeletal muscle relaxant, with additional sedative and anticonvulsant effects.
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What is the current phenprobamate route if administration? How about the opium? i would start with 35 per cent of the current opium dose and work up . . . you can always take more . . . taking less requires such things as intensive care, naloxone, and so forth. The carbamate sedatives sub-family into which phenprobamate, carisoprodol, meprobamate,, tybamate, methocarbamol ,and so on has a reputation as being a bit difficult to dialyse too, so being conservative on the sedative dose, maybe starting at half the current sedative dose too is wise. These particular drugs were the post-WWII serious attempts at a barbiturate-like sedative/hypnotic which were not related to the barbiturate family; unexpected finds in the new families of antihistamines and later benzodiazepines were added to the growing number of sedatives in the 1950s
 

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Both oral route. I take around 100-150 mgs of opium. The phenprobamate comes in combination with an OTC pain killer. I bought the medicine for headache which always gives me tight neck and temple. The pharmacist advised me this when he heard about the muscle tightness. My intent isn't abusing it but I'm told to take 2 pills 3 times a day which is 1200 mgs of phenprobamate per day so I just wanted to be on the safer side; it's also good if I could lower the opium intake.
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Is there a third and maybe additional active ingredients in the OTC pain killer, such as first-generation antihistamines or sedatives? Anything else that could impact the metabolism and maybe elimination of the opioid?
 

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Is this Isotonil, the paracetamol analogue of the old time Equagesic . . . of Bruce Lee fame?
. . . back at the beginning, this formulation had a third active ingredient, the at-the-time uncontrolled synthetic narcotic ethoheptazine, of the phenazepane family of 4-phenylpiperidines with the strongest connexion structure-wise with the open-chain alkaloids . . . the strongest of this series was proheptazine, which is around the potency of morphine give or take 50 per cent and now . . . the meprobamate was the source of the US CSA 1970 Schedule IV, but phenprobamate was not mentioned at all so I am wondering if it even comes under the Analogues Act, how close they could ome -- that kind of ambiguity probably the reason that a lot of this rules breaking is very troubling for all involved . . . my eyes are getting blurry now but I swear that it looks like dimenoxadol, pethidine, and dextromoramide had a three-way . . .
 

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I don't think so. There are only two active ingredients in this medicine named "Kuiflex 200mg/ 200mg". And you don't need to get a prescription from the doctor, It's OTC.
 

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I don't think so. There are only two active ingredients in this medicine named "Kuiflex 200mg/ 200mg". And you don't need to get a prescription from the doctor, It's OTC.
So 200 mg of paracetamol and 200 mg of phenabromate and it looks like that is the only strength and they come out to being the equivalence of about 100 mg of meprobamate, about 25 per cent of the lowest-dose Miltown and Equanil tablets. , the moderator or correction of a presenter on a news programme from the audience or power-pray typical events and powers and Kuiflex is the trade name for phenabromate .
 
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So 200 mg of paracetamol and 200 mg of phenabromate and it looks like that is the only strength and they come out to being the equivalence of about 100 mg of meprobamate, about 25 per cent of the lowest-dose Miltown and Equanil tablets. , the moderator or correction of a presenter on a news programme from the audience or power-pray typical events and powers and Kuiflex is the trade name for
phenabromate
when they used by is used a tornado and tower events special. Where is the ;and of OTC drugs like Kuiflex in some studio specialists and was this the case that it was moderating tornado coverage.
Care to elaborate on everything that comes after "The moderator.." lmao
 

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Care to elaborate on everything that comes after "The moderator.." lmao
I wonder how that jumped from one post to another? So there actually wasn't anything after that . . . I reckon this is the wages of shooting hyoscine with my Dilaudid . . . call it the Hyoscine Verses .. .
 

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I just wanted to give an update regarding the effects of combined used Opium with Phenabromate. I took half of the Opium dose (took around 75 mgs) that I usually take in the morning together with 400 mgs of Phenabromate. I usually start feeling the Opium effects in an hour and they peak after 2 hours. I had a coffee and a cigarette while preparing some breakfast. About 30 mins later, there was a feeling of relaxation and relaxation both mentally and physicall which was the Phenabromate.
After having a slice of bread, I started watching the news and within T+ 1 hour, I started feeling the Opium quite strongly, even if it was half the dose I take. After another hour, the effects from this combo really surprised me because I didn't expect such a good synergy and potentiation of both substances. I came to work, where I don't have a boss to bitch about anything or ruin my high, and I can say that after 3 hours the effects feel like I had taken 1,5 times my regular dose. The high is very relaxing and if I sit and read news or watch tv, I start nodding. Since I don't want to nod around the workers, I decided to shoot some meth and the overall combo is perfect.
Finally, I think that the Opium, Phenabromate cocktail is pretty efficient and the potentiation effects of the Phenabromate is very good.
 
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i'm just jealous you have actual opium ! but like nico said, i'd go for half a dose of the phenprobamate and half the opium for a first, i know wasting is a sin and we try not to get smited by the almighty, but that's the best way to learn, and after you know whats what, you can always go from there! :) getting high is never a goal when using new things that you aren't used to together, it should be to learn how they work together if theyre fine, work your way up to what floats your boat :)
 

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I wasn't being reckless Zonxx. I took half the opium with the recommended dose of Phenprobamate written in the medication packaging. Well, I learned how they react now.
Yeah, the opium is hard to come by in Istanbul too. Not many people demand it I guess. The person that sells it is mainly a heroin dealer but I know not to touch that stuff; suffered enough because of my addiction to it. He says that there are just a few people who wants opium unlike heroin, crack or meth. I only get it from this guy and try not to branch out so I can't make a comparison with the rest of the market qualitywise but I think that it's pretty decent quality. Heroin is really cheap here and opium is alittle more expensive but it's worth it. I love the duration and the combined high from the many alkoloids in it. It definitely has a character. After all it's the original opiate. I'm sure that you would love it.
 

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I wasn't being reckless Zonxx. I took half the opium with the recommended dose of Phenprobamate written in the medication packaging. Well, I learned how they react now.
Yeah, the opium is hard to come by in Istanbul too. Not many people demand it I guess. The person that sells it is mainly a heroin dealer but I know not to touch that stuff; suffered enough because of my addiction to it. He says that there are just a few people who wants opium unlike heroin, crack or meth. I only get it from this guy and try not to branch out so I can't make a comparison with the rest of the market qualitywise but I think that it's pretty decent quality. Heroin is really cheap here and opium is alittle more expensive but it's worth it. I love the duration and the combined high from the many alkoloids in it. It definitely has a character. After all it's the original opiate. I'm sure that you would love it.
just alittle off topic here about the heroin for my own curiousity if you don't mind, How is the heroin in istanbul, rather safe for consumtion as in none of these lethal cuts?

also yeah, i've been trying to get ahold of opium for years. YEARS. i can't find any in eastern canada :/
 

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No lethal cuts yet and it's usually very good quality if you don't buy it on a street corner from somebody that you don't know. It's usually #3, sometimes #4 but very seldom. People are really into chasing and snorting the stuff here. Some even roll it with tobacco and smoke it. It's quite safe though, not like the US at all.
 

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No lethal cuts yet and it's usually very good quality if you don't buy it on a street corner from somebody that you don't know. It's usually #3, sometimes #4 but very seldom. People are really into chasing and snorting the stuff here. Some even roll it with tobacco and smoke it. It's quite safe though, not like the US at all.
Thats verys awesome i assumdd it was clean and safe being so close to the production ( afghanistan etc)
 
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