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Sick mentally thinking of ways of extorting gypsies blacked out on spice, obviously I won't do it but I can't believe I can think of shit like this
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I'm literally feeding homeless gipsy kids weekly with some change and now here I'm thinking of fucked up things like that, in the last 2 weeks psychologically I'm really at my lowest ever
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Feeding homeless gypsy kids would be the good karma washing away the bad for extortion the gypsies blacked out on spice.
Feeding homeless gypsy kids would be the good karma washing away the bad for extortion the gypsies blacked out on spice.
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Found this great article from the New York Times published 30 years ago in 1989 on New York's open air drug markets.
Drug trafficking has become so open and pervasive in parts of New York City that, in some neighborhoods, it seems that everyone knows exactly where it is going on and who is taking part in it. But getting rid of it is another matter.
In interviews with prosecutors, local politicians and community organizers, a dozen drug-dealing locations were identified as some of the worst in the city. They range from fortress-like apartments in Washington Heights to shadowy doorways in a Staten Island housing project.
As summer approaches, these areas turn into little more than drug bazaars. Groups of customers move through a network of spotters, steerers and bodyguards posted outside and inside buildings known throughout the neighborhoods as drug outlets. Police See Complications
Many of the drug dealers ply their trade brazenly, with little fear of arrest. This is so despite the Police Department's announced crackdown on street-level sales and vast sums being spent on the police saturation technique featuring the Tactical Narcotics Team, or T.N.T.
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The police say that knowing about a drug site is very different from being able to close it down. They cite many problems, ranging from the profitability of the trade, which makes for an endless stream of new recruits, to strict guidelines in making arrests so that they will stand up in court.
And particularly frustrating, some officers say, is the ease with which many drug defendants are able to delay their cases or plead guilty to a reduced charge and return to their business in a matter of months.
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The specter of widespread police corruption has also been raised by some residents of drug-infested areas. But the police dismiss the charge, saying that there is no evidence that the boldness of street drug transactions is a result of officers being paid to look the other way.
In any case, narcotics seem a part of city life as never before. Spotting a drug transaction in midtown Manhattan is not uncommon. In some areas crack has so glutted the market that the price of a vial has dropped to $3 from $5. In others, a single draw on a pipe is sold for pocket change.
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''Drugs - it's all over the place,'' said Edward McCarthy, a spokesman for District Attorney Robert T. Johnson of the Bronx. ''It's incredible; they are selling the stuff right around the courthouse.'' A Scourge In All Boroughs
The 12 locations - two in Manhattan, one on Staten Island and three each in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx - were chosen because of the high visibility, persistence and volume of drug sales, law-enforcement officials said.
In each of them, the traffic is blatant, deeply entrenched and well organized. At one location in the Bronx on a recent day, for example, seven men and women took their places on the street, on fire escapes, windows and on a folding metal chair near the curb, earning $75 to $100 a day as lookouts, the authorities said.
''As soon as you walk on the block, they're looking,'' said Joseph Espanol, a city probation officer who has worked with the special police units. ''They got people in the windows, walking on rooftops.''
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One of the 12 locations is 42d Street in Manhattan between Eighth and 11th Avenues, an area that includes the Port Authority bus terminal. That area has perhaps the city's most blatant and aggressive drug trade, the police and other experts say. On a warm night last week knots of men openly hawked drugs near the corner of 42d Street and Eighth Avenue.
Standing near the carnival glow of the colored lights of an adult bookstore, a street-worn man whispered his drug call of ''smoke, coke, crack'' to passers-by despite the presence of uniformed police officers less than 20 yards away.
''It's an epidemic,'' Mr. Espanol said. ''We drive through there in an unmarked car and we've been approached. It's so blatant.''
In addition to the 42d Street area, these are the drug sites singled out: MANHATTAN
Washington Heights: On narrow side streets from 160th to 168th Streets between Amsterdam Avenue and Broadway, where salsa music and police sirens are often heard, grim-faced young men stand guard on apartment stoops. Many are spotters and steerers who at the slightest suspicion that the police - uniformed or in plainclothes - may be in the area shout coded warnings of ''five-O, five-O,'' derived from the old television series ''Hawaii Five-0.''
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The police and prosecutors say Washington Heights is probably the most drug-saturated area in the city. BROOKLYN
Bushwick: On Knickerbocker Avenue between Melrose and Starr Streets, an impoverished neighborhood of storefronts is little less than an open market for crack and cocaine. At noon on a recent weekday, dealers pressed packets and vials of drugs into the paying hands of street customers with almost as much regularity as a midtown food vendor selling hot dogs at lunchtime. With drug transactions going on around them, two Hispanic street preachers delivered sermons in English and Spanish pleading with the dealers and their customers to turn to Jesus Christ instead of narcotics.
''It is something I see and live with, and I am really tired and frustrated,'' said Nadine Whitted, district manager for Community Board 4, whose area is Bushwick. ''They are out in the streets utilizing vacant properties, lots. Children sometimes get involved.''
Kensington: Ditmas and Flatbush Avenues and Foster Avenue for a few blocks form the sides of a triangle within which cocaine and crack are big business. While much of the neighborhood is residential, Flatbush Avenue is part of a lively commercial strip of mostly West Indian restaurants, corner delicatessens and clothing stores.
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For much of the day and night, young men haunt the storefront businesses while doing their own business of narcotics. Sometimes they turn violent.
One merchant said he can hardly keep matches and inexpensive cigarette lighters stocked in his store because of the heavy demands of the crack users.
Brownsville: At the intersection of Belmont and Stone Avenues, now known as Mother Gaston Boulevard, crack and cocaine are being sold by desperate-looking men against a backdrop of bombed-out devastation. As in Washington Heights, there is little left of the area beyond the dark and crumbling apartment buildings. QUEENS
Far Rockaway: The stretch of Seagirt Avenue between 20th and 26th Streets provides a striking contrast between orderly single-family bungalows and blocks of desolation.
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The single-story bungalows, built as vacation homes, have been converted into permanent residences, most of them occupied by working-class blacks. Vacant lots and badly worn streets that stop at the Atlantic Ocean are cluttered with debris. At night and early morning, bands of young men often roam the dead-end side streets off Seagirt Avenue, gathering at late-night grocery stores and plying a vibrant crack trade.
While some residents say the drug problem here is not as bad as in other parts of the borough, the police have included it in the current T.N.T. zones.
South Jamaica: The South Jamaica Houses, a public housing project centered along 160th Street and 109th Avenue, is officially home to more than 1,000 families of mostly working-class black people. But officials estimate that as many as 1,000 other people also live in the apartments.
At almost any hour of the day, drug dealers abound in and around the 27-acre complex. The project last spring was part of a T.N.T. area in which the police made 630 drug arrests in a two-month sweep. But these days, residents say, the police pay little attention to the projects and the rundown neighborhood that surrounds it and the drug business is flourishing.
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Elmhurst: From 100th to 104th Street on the six-lane Northern Boulevard just south of La Guardia Airport, dealers in crack and cocaine were working even in a persistent rainfall on a recent night. Beneath an outsized umbrella a young man dressed in a white quilted jacket, black pants and white sneakers stood in front of the Christ Universal Temple Baptist Church near the corner of 102d Street and Northern Boulevard selling crack to a stream of what appeared to be regular customers. STATEN ISLAND
New Brighton: On Jersey Street where it intersects with Richmond Terrace is a steeply sloping hill of overgrown grass and weeds. At the foot of the hill are the broad retangular buildings of Richmond Terrace Housing, a public housing complex.
With the afternoon sun out, teen-agers - boys and girls -escaped into the cool, dark shadows of the doorways of the project where crack is sold and smoked. Some of the teen-age dealers drive expensive cars. THE BRONX
Mott Haven: The area from 135th to 139th Streets between St. Ann's Avenue and Brown Place is a bustling commercial neighborhood of shops and restaurants with apartments stacked four and five stories above. There are rubble-strewn lots and a broken-down playground, too. But mostly there is fear.
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A 30-year-old mailman who has had a route in this neighborhood for the last 18 months says that everyday he sees dealers on the streets selling heroin, cocaine and vials of crack.
Declining to be identified, the mailman said, ''I open a mailbox, and in the mailbox I find bags full of crack vials.''
He says he carries a knife.
Hunts Point: The corner of Faile and Aldus Streets is busy, dark and dangerous. Nearby are a cluster of retail stores and the clutter of garbage, discarded mattresses and bottles. Cocaine deals seem to be going on all the time. In a five-minute interval during a recent early evening, passers-by stopped to talk briefly with two men while exchanging money for drugs on the street.
At one point a police van drove along Faile Street, passing within 50 yards of the dealers. No one reacted, and the van drove away.
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Morris Heights: The section between 181st and 183d Streets and between Creston and Anthony Avenues and, nearby, at 140 Phelan Place, are part of a tumbledown neighborhood where the residents have become imprisoned by their fears. Cocaine and crack are sold, sometimes by teen-agers as young as 14, in the streets, building doorways and stairwells.
''The drug trafficking goes on day and night,'' one woman said. ''Nothing gets done about it.'' The Police And the Public
A recent Federal report on New York's illegal drug industry found that the police had been able to reduce some of the most blatant street trafficking. But the efforts have also forced many drug dealers to change the way they operate, making it even more difficult to get at them.
The report by the Federal Drug Enforcement Administration found that more dealers had moved their operations into heavily fortified apartments or abandoned buildings and were now making drug transactions - exchanging money for narcotics - through small slots in a door. Some dealers were using lobbies and stairwells of buildings to conceal drug activities from police patrols. In some places the dealers are not only selling drugs but also providing a room in which narcotics can be consumed.
ADVERTISEMENT
Police Commissioner Benjamin Ward often notes that the city's drug problem is a complicated one, rooted in poverty and joblessness. He says solving the drug problem is a task greater than any municipal police department should be expected to handle.
Nonetheless, Mr. Ward says New York has committed ''more resources to the war on drugs than any other municipality in the country.''
Some law-enforcement officials worry that residents of drug-dealing neighborhoods are rapidly losing their confidence in the police. When they see flagrant trafficking going on and little being done about it, they frequently assume that the police are either indifferent to the trafficking or are turning their backs because they are paid to.
In reply, the police point out that suspicion that a drug sale has occurred is not enough to make an effective arrest, even if the activity happens in view of a police officer. Generally, the officer needs to obtain the narcotic that was sold as evidence, something most easily done by using undercover agents.
ADVERTISEMENT
Simply hearing someone on a street advertising a product by saying ''smoke and blow'' is not ground for arrest, pointed out a spokesman for the Police Department, Lieut. Robert Cividanes.
In addition, to evade arrest, most dealers do not actually carry drugs but instead stash them nearby or rely on someone else, frequently a juvenile, to handle ''the product.''
Sterling Johnson Jr., special narcotics prosecutor for New York City, noted that most police officers will employ a higher standard in making a drug arrest than in making most other arrests. Many drug investigators, for example, insist on making more than one undercover buy from a narcotics dealer; multiple buys are a hedge against a suspect's charge that he was entrapped by the police.
Fears of corruption among police officers on drug cases is fed by public knowledge of the enormous profits streaming through drug-infested neighborhoods. In dozen of interviews, however, police and criminal justice officials said that while they saw a potential for corruption, they did not believe that corruption played a major role in the city's drug market.
ADVERTISEMENT
''We fully realize that there is the potential for a breach of integrity on the part of police offficers,'' Lieutenant Cividanes said. ''But the supervision is very close, especially in the narcotics division.''
A police spokesman said that no on-duty police officer had been charged in a drug-related corruption case over the last 18 months, but 16 off-duty officers have been charged in drug-related corruption during that time.
In 1986 a major police scandal erupted in the 77th Precinct in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn in which 13 officers were charged with a variety of crimes, including selling cocaine and accepting bribes from undercover officers posing as drug dealers. One officer committed suicide. Six officers have been convicted, two acquitted at criminal trials, and the charges against two have been dismissed. Millions to Fight Billion-Dollar Industry
Many residents believe that the problem is intractable and that rounding up drug dealers is futile since the jammed criminal-justice system will only turn them loose. Or, if dealers are held, others will quickly move in to replace them, they say.
ADVERTISEMENT
''That's all they do, sell crack and drugs,'' said Frank Pavonti, a 79-year-old retired bartender who lives in the Hunts Point section of the Bronx. ''There are girls with babies in their arms who sell crack. The police know about it, but they can't do anything about it.''
Standing across the street from a crack house in the Bronx, a former crack dealer said: ''The police can arrest a lot of people. They could arrest me. But as soon as they take me away there are two or three people who come in and take my place. There's too much money involved for it to be any other way.''
To give a sense of the money that is made in a mid-level drug distribution operation, District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau of Manhattan said that a month's proceeds taken from one house in Queens came to nearly $20 million. The police also found $70,000 in $1 bills stashed under floor boards, he said. For the drug dealers, those bills were too insignificant to bother to count.
In response to the drug problem, the city has committed more than $116 million over two years to special anti-drug offensives. Prosecutors and police officials, however, say that that is not enough. They will need more money as the multibillion-dollar industry continues to expand and grow more sophisticated. Lack of Influence And Desperate Feeling
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Before the T.N.T. units were formed last year, felony drug arrests were already overwhelming the city's criminal justice system. In Brooklyn alone, felony drug arrests quadrupled between 1983 and 1987, swelling to more than 4,000 cases and constituting more than 40 percent of the District Attorney's caseload.
Last year, the police made more than 90,000 narcotics arrests in New York City. This year, the police estimate that the number of such arrests will be far higher.
Drugs arrests constituted almost a third of the 279,000 arrests that the city police made in the first 11 months of last year. In 1987, 27.1 percent of the arrests were for drug offenses.
But arrest statistics and the number of complaints to the police about neighborhood drug traffic are not the only index of how desperate the problem has become, some suggest.
ADVERTISEMENT
Steve Marston, manager of the South Jamaica Houses, said the city did not seem to care whether drugs were sold there. He said most of the 2,500 legal tenants are unorganized and almost totally without influence.
''They're not listened to,'' said Mr. Marston as he looked through letters from tenants complaining to him about drug dealers in their buildings. ''They have no power bases.''
Mr. Marston said the tenants lived in fear of powerful drug dealers who seem to operate with impunity. He said the dealers threaten, beat and sometimes murder tenants while vandalizing buildings. ''They deserve more than this,'' he said.
A version of this article appears in print on June 1, 1989, Section A, Page 1 of the National edition with the headline: New York's Worst Drug Sites: Persistent Markets of Death. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
I was thinking seeing as the article was 30 years old the locations and drug prices mentioned in the article are no longer revelant or accurate but if a mod wants to modify the text I understand
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Drug trafficking has become so open and pervasive in parts of New York City that, in some neighborhoods, it seems that everyone knows exactly where it is going on and who is taking part in it. But getting rid of it is another matter.
In interviews with prosecutors, local politicians and community organizers, a dozen drug-dealing locations were identified as some of the worst in the city. They range from fortress-like apartments in Washington Heights to shadowy doorways in a Staten Island housing project.
As summer approaches, these areas turn into little more than drug bazaars. Groups of customers move through a network of spotters, steerers and bodyguards posted outside and inside buildings known throughout the neighborhoods as drug outlets. Police See Complications
Many of the drug dealers ply their trade brazenly, with little fear of arrest. This is so despite the Police Department's announced crackdown on street-level sales and vast sums being spent on the police saturation technique featuring the Tactical Narcotics Team, or T.N.T.
ADVERTISEMENT
The police say that knowing about a drug site is very different from being able to close it down. They cite many problems, ranging from the profitability of the trade, which makes for an endless stream of new recruits, to strict guidelines in making arrests so that they will stand up in court.
And particularly frustrating, some officers say, is the ease with which many drug defendants are able to delay their cases or plead guilty to a reduced charge and return to their business in a matter of months.
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The specter of widespread police corruption has also been raised by some residents of drug-infested areas. But the police dismiss the charge, saying that there is no evidence that the boldness of street drug transactions is a result of officers being paid to look the other way.
In any case, narcotics seem a part of city life as never before. Spotting a drug transaction in midtown Manhattan is not uncommon. In some areas crack has so glutted the market that the price of a vial has dropped to $3 from $5. In others, a single draw on a pipe is sold for pocket change.
ADVERTISEMENT
''Drugs - it's all over the place,'' said Edward McCarthy, a spokesman for District Attorney Robert T. Johnson of the Bronx. ''It's incredible; they are selling the stuff right around the courthouse.'' A Scourge In All Boroughs
The 12 locations - two in Manhattan, one on Staten Island and three each in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx - were chosen because of the high visibility, persistence and volume of drug sales, law-enforcement officials said.
In each of them, the traffic is blatant, deeply entrenched and well organized. At one location in the Bronx on a recent day, for example, seven men and women took their places on the street, on fire escapes, windows and on a folding metal chair near the curb, earning $75 to $100 a day as lookouts, the authorities said.
''As soon as you walk on the block, they're looking,'' said Joseph Espanol, a city probation officer who has worked with the special police units. ''They got people in the windows, walking on rooftops.''
ADVERTISEMENT
One of the 12 locations is 42d Street in Manhattan between Eighth and 11th Avenues, an area that includes the Port Authority bus terminal. That area has perhaps the city's most blatant and aggressive drug trade, the police and other experts say. On a warm night last week knots of men openly hawked drugs near the corner of 42d Street and Eighth Avenue.
Standing near the carnival glow of the colored lights of an adult bookstore, a street-worn man whispered his drug call of ''smoke, coke, crack'' to passers-by despite the presence of uniformed police officers less than 20 yards away.
''It's an epidemic,'' Mr. Espanol said. ''We drive through there in an unmarked car and we've been approached. It's so blatant.''
In addition to the 42d Street area, these are the drug sites singled out: MANHATTAN
Washington Heights: On narrow side streets from 160th to 168th Streets between Amsterdam Avenue and Broadway, where salsa music and police sirens are often heard, grim-faced young men stand guard on apartment stoops. Many are spotters and steerers who at the slightest suspicion that the police - uniformed or in plainclothes - may be in the area shout coded warnings of ''five-O, five-O,'' derived from the old television series ''Hawaii Five-0.''
ADVERTISEMENT
The police and prosecutors say Washington Heights is probably the most drug-saturated area in the city. BROOKLYN
Bushwick: On Knickerbocker Avenue between Melrose and Starr Streets, an impoverished neighborhood of storefronts is little less than an open market for crack and cocaine. At noon on a recent weekday, dealers pressed packets and vials of drugs into the paying hands of street customers with almost as much regularity as a midtown food vendor selling hot dogs at lunchtime. With drug transactions going on around them, two Hispanic street preachers delivered sermons in English and Spanish pleading with the dealers and their customers to turn to Jesus Christ instead of narcotics.
''It is something I see and live with, and I am really tired and frustrated,'' said Nadine Whitted, district manager for Community Board 4, whose area is Bushwick. ''They are out in the streets utilizing vacant properties, lots. Children sometimes get involved.''
Kensington: Ditmas and Flatbush Avenues and Foster Avenue for a few blocks form the sides of a triangle within which cocaine and crack are big business. While much of the neighborhood is residential, Flatbush Avenue is part of a lively commercial strip of mostly West Indian restaurants, corner delicatessens and clothing stores.
ADVERTISEMENT
For much of the day and night, young men haunt the storefront businesses while doing their own business of narcotics. Sometimes they turn violent.
One merchant said he can hardly keep matches and inexpensive cigarette lighters stocked in his store because of the heavy demands of the crack users.
Brownsville: At the intersection of Belmont and Stone Avenues, now known as Mother Gaston Boulevard, crack and cocaine are being sold by desperate-looking men against a backdrop of bombed-out devastation. As in Washington Heights, there is little left of the area beyond the dark and crumbling apartment buildings. QUEENS
Far Rockaway: The stretch of Seagirt Avenue between 20th and 26th Streets provides a striking contrast between orderly single-family bungalows and blocks of desolation.
ADVERTISEMENT
The single-story bungalows, built as vacation homes, have been converted into permanent residences, most of them occupied by working-class blacks. Vacant lots and badly worn streets that stop at the Atlantic Ocean are cluttered with debris. At night and early morning, bands of young men often roam the dead-end side streets off Seagirt Avenue, gathering at late-night grocery stores and plying a vibrant crack trade.
While some residents say the drug problem here is not as bad as in other parts of the borough, the police have included it in the current T.N.T. zones.
South Jamaica: The South Jamaica Houses, a public housing project centered along 160th Street and 109th Avenue, is officially home to more than 1,000 families of mostly working-class black people. But officials estimate that as many as 1,000 other people also live in the apartments.
At almost any hour of the day, drug dealers abound in and around the 27-acre complex. The project last spring was part of a T.N.T. area in which the police made 630 drug arrests in a two-month sweep. But these days, residents say, the police pay little attention to the projects and the rundown neighborhood that surrounds it and the drug business is flourishing.
ADVERTISEMENT
Elmhurst: From 100th to 104th Street on the six-lane Northern Boulevard just south of La Guardia Airport, dealers in crack and cocaine were working even in a persistent rainfall on a recent night. Beneath an outsized umbrella a young man dressed in a white quilted jacket, black pants and white sneakers stood in front of the Christ Universal Temple Baptist Church near the corner of 102d Street and Northern Boulevard selling crack to a stream of what appeared to be regular customers. STATEN ISLAND
New Brighton: On Jersey Street where it intersects with Richmond Terrace is a steeply sloping hill of overgrown grass and weeds. At the foot of the hill are the broad retangular buildings of Richmond Terrace Housing, a public housing complex.
With the afternoon sun out, teen-agers - boys and girls -escaped into the cool, dark shadows of the doorways of the project where crack is sold and smoked. Some of the teen-age dealers drive expensive cars. THE BRONX
Mott Haven: The area from 135th to 139th Streets between St. Ann's Avenue and Brown Place is a bustling commercial neighborhood of shops and restaurants with apartments stacked four and five stories above. There are rubble-strewn lots and a broken-down playground, too. But mostly there is fear.
ADVERTISEMENT
A 30-year-old mailman who has had a route in this neighborhood for the last 18 months says that everyday he sees dealers on the streets selling heroin, cocaine and vials of crack.
Declining to be identified, the mailman said, ''I open a mailbox, and in the mailbox I find bags full of crack vials.''
He says he carries a knife.
Hunts Point: The corner of Faile and Aldus Streets is busy, dark and dangerous. Nearby are a cluster of retail stores and the clutter of garbage, discarded mattresses and bottles. Cocaine deals seem to be going on all the time. In a five-minute interval during a recent early evening, passers-by stopped to talk briefly with two men while exchanging money for drugs on the street.
At one point a police van drove along Faile Street, passing within 50 yards of the dealers. No one reacted, and the van drove away.
ADVERTISEMENT
Morris Heights: The section between 181st and 183d Streets and between Creston and Anthony Avenues and, nearby, at 140 Phelan Place, are part of a tumbledown neighborhood where the residents have become imprisoned by their fears. Cocaine and crack are sold, sometimes by teen-agers as young as 14, in the streets, building doorways and stairwells.
''The drug trafficking goes on day and night,'' one woman said. ''Nothing gets done about it.'' The Police And the Public
A recent Federal report on New York's illegal drug industry found that the police had been able to reduce some of the most blatant street trafficking. But the efforts have also forced many drug dealers to change the way they operate, making it even more difficult to get at them.
The report by the Federal Drug Enforcement Administration found that more dealers had moved their operations into heavily fortified apartments or abandoned buildings and were now making drug transactions - exchanging money for narcotics - through small slots in a door. Some dealers were using lobbies and stairwells of buildings to conceal drug activities from police patrols. In some places the dealers are not only selling drugs but also providing a room in which narcotics can be consumed.
ADVERTISEMENT
Police Commissioner Benjamin Ward often notes that the city's drug problem is a complicated one, rooted in poverty and joblessness. He says solving the drug problem is a task greater than any municipal police department should be expected to handle.
Nonetheless, Mr. Ward says New York has committed ''more resources to the war on drugs than any other municipality in the country.''
Some law-enforcement officials worry that residents of drug-dealing neighborhoods are rapidly losing their confidence in the police. When they see flagrant trafficking going on and little being done about it, they frequently assume that the police are either indifferent to the trafficking or are turning their backs because they are paid to.
In reply, the police point out that suspicion that a drug sale has occurred is not enough to make an effective arrest, even if the activity happens in view of a police officer. Generally, the officer needs to obtain the narcotic that was sold as evidence, something most easily done by using undercover agents.
ADVERTISEMENT
Simply hearing someone on a street advertising a product by saying ''smoke and blow'' is not ground for arrest, pointed out a spokesman for the Police Department, Lieut. Robert Cividanes.
In addition, to evade arrest, most dealers do not actually carry drugs but instead stash them nearby or rely on someone else, frequently a juvenile, to handle ''the product.''
Sterling Johnson Jr., special narcotics prosecutor for New York City, noted that most police officers will employ a higher standard in making a drug arrest than in making most other arrests. Many drug investigators, for example, insist on making more than one undercover buy from a narcotics dealer; multiple buys are a hedge against a suspect's charge that he was entrapped by the police.
Fears of corruption among police officers on drug cases is fed by public knowledge of the enormous profits streaming through drug-infested neighborhoods. In dozen of interviews, however, police and criminal justice officials said that while they saw a potential for corruption, they did not believe that corruption played a major role in the city's drug market.
ADVERTISEMENT
''We fully realize that there is the potential for a breach of integrity on the part of police offficers,'' Lieutenant Cividanes said. ''But the supervision is very close, especially in the narcotics division.''
A police spokesman said that no on-duty police officer had been charged in a drug-related corruption case over the last 18 months, but 16 off-duty officers have been charged in drug-related corruption during that time.
In 1986 a major police scandal erupted in the 77th Precinct in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn in which 13 officers were charged with a variety of crimes, including selling cocaine and accepting bribes from undercover officers posing as drug dealers. One officer committed suicide. Six officers have been convicted, two acquitted at criminal trials, and the charges against two have been dismissed. Millions to Fight Billion-Dollar Industry
Many residents believe that the problem is intractable and that rounding up drug dealers is futile since the jammed criminal-justice system will only turn them loose. Or, if dealers are held, others will quickly move in to replace them, they say.
ADVERTISEMENT
''That's all they do, sell crack and drugs,'' said Frank Pavonti, a 79-year-old retired bartender who lives in the Hunts Point section of the Bronx. ''There are girls with babies in their arms who sell crack. The police know about it, but they can't do anything about it.''
Standing across the street from a crack house in the Bronx, a former crack dealer said: ''The police can arrest a lot of people. They could arrest me. But as soon as they take me away there are two or three people who come in and take my place. There's too much money involved for it to be any other way.''
To give a sense of the money that is made in a mid-level drug distribution operation, District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau of Manhattan said that a month's proceeds taken from one house in Queens came to nearly $20 million. The police also found $70,000 in $1 bills stashed under floor boards, he said. For the drug dealers, those bills were too insignificant to bother to count.
In response to the drug problem, the city has committed more than $116 million over two years to special anti-drug offensives. Prosecutors and police officials, however, say that that is not enough. They will need more money as the multibillion-dollar industry continues to expand and grow more sophisticated. Lack of Influence And Desperate Feeling
ADVERTISEMENT
Before the T.N.T. units were formed last year, felony drug arrests were already overwhelming the city's criminal justice system. In Brooklyn alone, felony drug arrests quadrupled between 1983 and 1987, swelling to more than 4,000 cases and constituting more than 40 percent of the District Attorney's caseload.
Last year, the police made more than 90,000 narcotics arrests in New York City. This year, the police estimate that the number of such arrests will be far higher.
Drugs arrests constituted almost a third of the 279,000 arrests that the city police made in the first 11 months of last year. In 1987, 27.1 percent of the arrests were for drug offenses.
But arrest statistics and the number of complaints to the police about neighborhood drug traffic are not the only index of how desperate the problem has become, some suggest.
ADVERTISEMENT
Steve Marston, manager of the South Jamaica Houses, said the city did not seem to care whether drugs were sold there. He said most of the 2,500 legal tenants are unorganized and almost totally without influence.
''They're not listened to,'' said Mr. Marston as he looked through letters from tenants complaining to him about drug dealers in their buildings. ''They have no power bases.''
Mr. Marston said the tenants lived in fear of powerful drug dealers who seem to operate with impunity. He said the dealers threaten, beat and sometimes murder tenants while vandalizing buildings. ''They deserve more than this,'' he said.
A version of this article appears in print on June 1, 1989, Section A, Page 1 of the National edition with the headline: New York's Worst Drug Sites: Persistent Markets of Death. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
I was thinking seeing as the article was 30 years old the locations and drug prices mentioned in the article are no longer revelant or accurate but if a mod wants to modify the text I understand
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"Bushwick: On Knickerbocker Avenue between Melrose and Starr Streets, an impoverished neighborhood of storefronts is little less than an open market for crack and cocaine. At noon on a recent weekday, dealers pressed packets and vials of drugs into the paying hands of street customers with almost as much regularity as a midtown food vendor selling hot dogs at lunchtime. With drug transactions going on around them, two Hispanic street preachers delivered sermons in English and Spanish pleading with the dealers and their customers to turn to Jesus Christ instead of narcotics. "
Back in the days before the hipsters took over you could literally could drive up with the window down and have 4-6 different dealers run up for the sale. All legit H and never an issue unless TNT decided to park and wait. Don't get me wrong, the area is a lot nicer now and all the condemned building especially by Eldert and knickerbocker Ave are now office space or rebuilt brownstones. Even the Ho spots over on star are no longer in service.
Back in the days before the hipsters took over you could literally could drive up with the window down and have 4-6 different dealers run up for the sale. All legit H and never an issue unless TNT decided to park and wait. Don't get me wrong, the area is a lot nicer now and all the condemned building especially by Eldert and knickerbocker Ave are now office space or rebuilt brownstones. Even the Ho spots over on star are no longer in service.
NewJerseyChill
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Anyone from toms river
AlongCameJones
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Anybody home?
cosmic charlie
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Welcome to Bluelight, wanted to remind you @Whammason as well as other people posting here in the future that sourcing is against the guidelines here. Using this platform for Buying/Selling drugs will can get you banned depending on the situation. This is just a warning for all to be mindful.
Thank you and carry on fellow Blers from the North East. I'd liked in New Jersey my whole live until in moved to NYC about 5 years ago now. Hope things can work out and you find a plug with drugs not cut with Fent and you can get high with safety.
Thank you and carry on fellow Blers from the North East. I'd liked in New Jersey my whole live until in moved to NYC about 5 years ago now. Hope things can work out and you find a plug with drugs not cut with Fent and you can get high with safety.
6Farrakhans6Dream6
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Camden has got a lot better from what it was only 10 years ago when the police were just there to clean up the bodies. Still not great, nut incredible improvement. North Camden used to look like the Night of the living Dead when i was running around up by 7th and York.
Boostafedh
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Jersey too
etherealserial
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Buffalo shout-out!
Anybody else having a terrible time with the covid 19 bullshit? All three of my plugs either have straight garbage or just not serving. You'd think living in Brooklyn it would be easy, but I keep the circle of friends small, and really want to avoid going to the projects be or Craigslist and getting scammed. Sucks even more cuz I just got paid.
sweetjaaaane
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yeah anyone else having trouble during this covid shit?
6Farrakhans6Dream6
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I was speaking with some coke guys and they were talking about how the price was supposed to go up because of the scrutiny of imported goods coming into the country. How quality might fall. I've also heard this to be true with Fentanyl and dope. I watched some program,about how COVID Was effecting the cartels as far as them not being able to obtain Fentanyl and also precursor ingredients to make methamphetamine. Because they get it all from China. Most of the fent comes from China and obviously imported goods from China have slowed because of the virus. My plugs stuff went downhill, I went out and tried some other stuff. 3 other usually reliable places/people, and it all was generally about the same. Not great, not trash, but not great either and it's all usually fire so....best of lick guys. I was on a 14 day quarantine. I'm a veteran living at this VA "sober program" we just got off lockdown yesterday. We all got tested twice in the building no positive results but they did quarantine us regardless. We couldn't leave the building at all. Only to smoke right outside in a lil area then back inside. So as soon as the quarantine was lifted yesterday 3 people got kicked out within 12 hours all for dope. One dropped a bundle out of his pocket in the hallway in front of the director of the program. Another guy overdosed and when they came to revive him they found 40 bags (nicks) and his buddy was high and had a jug of vodka in the room too. Idiots...6 am I was out the door I don't shit where I sleep. Hope everyone is doing alright!