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Stimulants 4-Fluoromethylphenidate (4F-MPH) Megathread

You mean if it's dangerous? Probably not. Well, atleast in the sense that they won't potentiate each other and give you serotonin syndrome.. you might just get overstimulated from taking a stim on top of a stim. 4F-MPH is supposed to be 2-3 times as potent as Ritalin and significantly longer lasting.
as far as I know, monoamine releasers (amphetamine) and monoamine reuptake inhibitors (methylphenidat) kind of work against each other instead of synergizing. this has something to do with the differences in pharmacology. but maybe somebody can correct me :)
 
Thank you for all that responded. I gave it a try. I really didn't notice to much stimulation. Maybe a little more motivation, which was great. Could of been placebo tho. I was prescribed ritalin when I was about 14, and was on it for about 5 years, then doc switched me to adderall. The Ritalin was awesome but when I was switched to adderall - it was completely different. There was massive euphoria, nothing like the ritalin at all. I felt like there wasn't a goal I couldn't accomplish. I miss those days. But I knew they couldn't last forever. I guess I am still taking adderall because everytime I decide to stop or take a break, I become lethargic, zombie like. Can't even hardly open my eyes - this last 3-5 days. After those days, I get insomnia, and can't sleep at all.. And what's worst, it doesn't seem even a 3 week holiday from the drug lowers tolerance. Or at least it doesn't bring back the euphoria.
At this point in my life I suppose I am not looking for that awesome euphoria anymore. More wanting just to feel a little motivation and enthusiasm about life.. But who doesn't want that
 
I am considering giving this a try. I have some weeks coming up where I have to write a paper relatively quick so I figured it might be nice to have a stimulant that could give my focus and concentration a little boost. I have seen a lot of people describing this as a relatively clean stimulant at low doses, that made me interested.
 
I have had an opportunity to try this chem for the past few days. From my experience so far 10 - 30 mg taken orally provides an hour or two of stimulating euphoria followed by a long lasting functional stimulation, perfect for work or when you need to be up for long times and don't want to have to redose something constantly.

When taken at larger doses, around 40 mg I noticed I was actually getting psychedelic visuals. Has anyone else experienced this?
 
Sorry for the delay in replying, I was having a bit of a break.

How many grams would you say you went through?

From October until the middle of December I got through about 20g of the stuff, the majority of it being intravenously. Although about 10g of that was over a week. Plus I can see orders for about 30g of 3FPM over a few weeks, new orders being placed every few days.

I was a mess. A complete and total mess. I was hallucinating, terribly moody, got into trouble with the police, I collapsed outside at least twice after standing up from sitting down (my fitbit showing my pulse drop to 30bpm when reviewed after the event.) I'd shake all the time, a tremor, I was scared of the dark.

I was smashed out of my tiny little mind. I thought people were staring at me (mind you, I was such a mess I wouldn't put that entirely down to paranoia!) I remember going into my room one night and without any real reason I shouted at someone in English to warn them off - there wasn't anyone there and I didn't see anyone, there was just so much adrenaline in my addled brain that it had me constantly in fight mode.

I saw faces on car seats in fact anything which my mind could misinterpret as a person, or part of a person, became a person. I knew they weren't people, I knew I was hallucinating, but there came a tipping point ('towards the end') where I'd start to go over the edge and then couldn't really work out what was real and any distorted pattern would become something.

Even though my mother knew I was on something, she couldn't bring herself to say it. I knew I had a problem, I hated what I'd done but didn't know how to stop. I sat there in front of her and burst into tears, she'd seen the countless bruises on my arms before, she'd seen me sitting in front of her just shaking and sweating for no reason but then she saw me in tears, I was ashamed, tears and snot everywhere I somehow managed to exhale, with her crying too and saying 'tell me and I can help you' and all I could say was "You'd be so disappointed in me" over and over and then rolled a cigarette while crying and went outside and carried on crying for ages.

Given that I was (apart from going out of my mind on 4F-MPH and other drugs) otherwise healthy, a long distance and marathon runner I just didn't know what to do with myself anymore. I was just completely ruined. Now completely scared of the dark (when the hallucinations were worst, probably because random shapes are difficult to make out) I got escorted out of my own home by the police and, the worst night of my life proceeded.

I live in the countryside, there are lots of unlit roads for miles around. I had to walk around, and around, and around for miles during the night. I had just £20 on me. I refused to contact my friends as I was ashamed and screwed up. I had to live at night, for a whole night, in the dark, in the rain with just a T-shirt and jeans in the cold of December in England, with only horror and hallucinations for company. I even struck up conversations with my hallucinations at bus stops in hope of making the hallucinations I was conjuring up 'nice ones' and not 'bad ones'.

Over the following few weeks and months, after spending Christmas in a coma in hospital (after purposely overdosing on diclazepam (200mg maybe?) and ketamine (heaven knows how much) and synthetic cannabinoids purely because that's all I had around) I woke up in an unfamiliar hospital and phoned home.

That was in January. I'm (apart from one relapse early in April) now off the 4F-MPH, all the other drugs, my arms (and hands, I ended up injecting into my hands as I'd run out of veins in my arms) are now almost back to normal. But I no longer have a job, I am (was?) a skilled qualified IT Pro but after not turning up for six months I need to find something else but I'm hopeful of getting one next week. I've only got enough cash to survive for about another month or two.

2015 was a bit of a year of discovery, 2016 seems to be a bit of a challenge. The problem with being a 'recovering' or ex-drug addict but not actually having any criminal convictions for drug posession or whatever it means I can't access any of the 'back to work' employment programs. Meh.
 
Oh, and my resting heart rate (as per fitbit) gradually rose from 52-55 in August to 95bpm in December.
 
It has no odor but when it burns it smells like semen

I know it's been two months since your post, but it's very likely you got some pyrrolidinophenone instead as smell of semen suggests pyrrolidine (strong sperm-like smell).

Or perhaps it was some phenidate, piperidine has a similar smell after all...8) Though I'm not sure if burned methylphenidate would release it.
 
Took a very small oral dose (1-2 MG) with a very small oral dose of 2C-C (2 mg 2C-C) after being 3 weeks off stimulants. With a few shots of Jaigermeister. And had a great evening. All my negative believes and thoughts became relative and I felt a bit one with the rest of the people on the party. After the party I watched some videoclips and enjoyed them very much. Even though the dose was very low I could still feel the positive effects and small euphoria. Which I created myself as well because of the revelations I did. Heartbeat was good as wel around 68. And the positive effects lasted around 6-7 hours.

I think less is more with this stuff.
 
Sorry for the delay in replying, I was having a bit of a break.



From October until the middle of December I got through about 20g of the stuff, the majority of it being intravenously. Although about 10g of that was over a week. Plus I can see orders for about 30g of 3FPM over a few weeks, new orders being placed every few days.

I was a mess. A complete and total mess. I was hallucinating, terribly moody, got into trouble with the police, I collapsed outside at least twice after standing up from sitting down (my fitbit showing my pulse drop to 30bpm when reviewed after the event.) I'd shake all the time, a tremor, I was scared of the dark.

I was smashed out of my tiny little mind. I thought people were staring at me (mind you, I was such a mess I wouldn't put that entirely down to paranoia!) I remember going into my room one night and without any real reason I shouted at someone in English to warn them off - there wasn't anyone there and I didn't see anyone, there was just so much adrenaline in my addled brain that it had me constantly in fight mode.

I saw faces on car seats in fact anything which my mind could misinterpret as a person, or part of a person, became a person. I knew they weren't people, I knew I was hallucinating, but there came a tipping point ('towards the end') where I'd start to go over the edge and then couldn't really work out what was real and any distorted pattern would become something.

Even though my mother knew I was on something, she couldn't bring herself to say it. I knew I had a problem, I hated what I'd done but didn't know how to stop. I sat there in front of her and burst into tears, she'd seen the countless bruises on my arms before, she'd seen me sitting in front of her just shaking and sweating for no reason but then she saw me in tears, I was ashamed, tears and snot everywhere I somehow managed to exhale, with her crying too and saying 'tell me and I can help you' and all I could say was "You'd be so disappointed in me" over and over and then rolled a cigarette while crying and went outside and carried on crying for ages.

Given that I was (apart from going out of my mind on 4F-MPH and other drugs) otherwise healthy, a long distance and marathon runner I just didn't know what to do with myself anymore. I was just completely ruined. Now completely scared of the dark (when the hallucinations were worst, probably because random shapes are difficult to make out) I got escorted out of my own home by the police and, the worst night of my life proceeded.

I live in the countryside, there are lots of unlit roads for miles around. I had to walk around, and around, and around for miles during the night. I had just £20 on me. I refused to contact my friends as I was ashamed and screwed up. I had to live at night, for a whole night, in the dark, in the rain with just a T-shirt and jeans in the cold of December in England, with only horror and hallucinations for company. I even struck up conversations with my hallucinations at bus stops in hope of making the hallucinations I was conjuring up 'nice ones' and not 'bad ones'.

Over the following few weeks and months, after spending Christmas in a coma in hospital (after purposely overdosing on diclazepam (200mg maybe?) and ketamine (heaven knows how much) and synthetic cannabinoids purely because that's all I had around) I woke up in an unfamiliar hospital and phoned home.

That was in January. I'm (apart from one relapse early in April) now off the 4F-MPH, all the other drugs, my arms (and hands, I ended up injecting into my hands as I'd run out of veins in my arms) are now almost back to normal. But I no longer have a job, I am (was?) a skilled qualified IT Pro but after not turning up for six months I need to find something else but I'm hopeful of getting one next week. I've only got enough cash to survive for about another month or two.

2015 was a bit of a year of discovery, 2016 seems to be a bit of a challenge. The problem with being a 'recovering' or ex-drug addict but not actually having any criminal convictions for drug posession or whatever it means I can't access any of the 'back to work' employment programs. Meh.

Can u apply for social welfare assistance until u find a new job?
 
Judging from SAR, a couple mg is probably all that should be consumed per dose... 5mg is probably even edging on too much. Of course SAR seems to go out the window as soon as people go nuts on a binge...

Certainly it's not the same as ethylphenidate...
 
Ehhh rats != humans, 20mg (no or little tolerance) is a good recreational dose for 4F-MPH. About 2-3x more potent than MPH.
 
i tend to disagree. I found anything above 10mg brought no improvement of the positive effects, but did increase sideeffects and most notably the spunout / eyes everywhere/ jittery look... Just saying that people should start low and not aim for the sky from the very start. Especially considering the rather long duration
 
Well yeah, recreational doses are usually a tad higher than subtle doses :p
 
The perfect recreational dose for this one is 0 micrograms. In fact that dose works with any pheniate IMHO.
 
Oh, I like the OD-forum. Most of the users even have a sense of humor. What about you roi ?
 
Sorry to hijack the thread anyways :D. If you like monoamine releasers, don't try this compund, just my 2 cents. I'm pretty damaged, when it comes to DRI, though (MDPV was the most efficient I tried, but don't try THAT !).
 
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