RCs Novel Empathogen : para-Fluorophenylpiperazine , pFPP , 4FPP

[LaGaFàNi]

So this has been around for some years and is still available. This thread is about piperazines in general.

Dosage: Mild-20mg, Common-40/70mg, Strong-70/150mg

Erowid : https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=61761
https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=56641

Any TRs, especially mixed with other non-piperazine subs are welcome. (cathinones for an example)

 

[Wiserthanearlier]

Interesting. I am the only person i know who could tolerate and enjoy regular piperazines. Bzp and the infaamous bzp+tfmpp. I really enjoyed there during the 2000s.

I wonder what bodyload etc is present with these newer chems considering most found these way too much with classic piperazines

 

[LaGaFàNi]

From what I've read, this compound on its own isn't very stimulating, much more like 5-MAPB, almost sedating, with some CEVs at doses higher than 60mg. I did not read up on anything regarding a "body-load", unlike the NBOMEs and such.
I wonder how it would work out with a stim. When reading about Pentylone, 4-MPD or the rest of today's available stims, they all seem to lack this serotonergic activity MDMA has (but 4-CEC), and combining them with pFPP, which has some unique activity at HT receptors, would (I think) make for a great association. A bit like combining 4-HO/Acetyl-xxTryptamines with a stimulant.