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Bluetester

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Test batch clean all the way aroun. It’s white rock mdma test good but not euphoric and keeps you up all night any ideas tried several doses first timers as well no sleep not any euphoric feelings like most mdma and tested clean first time see all white rock crystal
 
Hi...

Welcome to what we have been trying to figure out for years.

You are not the only person who has noticed this.

There is MDMA out there that tests as MDMA but does not produce MDMA effects in new or experienced users.

We have several theories over in Thread 1 and Thread 2.

Here is what we know for certain based on published research:

#1. Different synthesis methods are used now than were used in the past.

#2. Different synthesis methods produce different synthesis byproducts.

#3. Some synthesis byproducts are capable of altering monoamine transporter activity.

#4. Interference in monoamine transporter activity can dampen the MDMA experience.

These facts (among others) lead us to several theories for what may be occurring.

#1. Changes in synthesis methods have resulted in new impurity profiles that result in a diminished MDMA experience.

#2. Changes in synthesis methods have resulted in new impurity profiles that result in a diminished MDMA experience for SOME users due to genetic profiles or other individual variation.

#3. GCMS is unable to identify the difference between MDMA and MDMA isobaric derivatives, resulting in misidentification of compounds that are similar to MDMA.

#4. What many consider to be a typical MDMA experience was actually due to active impurities that enhanced the effects of MDMA.

Would you please be so kind as to share a detailed account of your experience in Thread 2?

Also, for clarification would you please answer these questions:

Did you test with a lab or just with a reagent testing kit?
How long have you used MDMA and what is your usage pattern?
What do you consider to be a "typical" MDMA experience?
How was this experience different?
How could you tell that first timers were not experiencing typical MDMA effects?
 
1. Regent lest
20 years off and on use
typical experience is the euphoric feeling love, happiness togetherness
no roll no rush just awake
they where not aw or feel euphoric
 
Bluetester said:
1. Regent lest
20 years off and on use
typical experience is the euphoric feeling love, happiness togetherness
no roll no rush just awake
they where not aw or feel euphoric
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Are you able to send a sample to a lab? If you are in the USA, the easiest option is Drugs Data. International Energy Control is a lab that accepts international submissions, and there are other options in Europe as well (some are even free). If the lab shows MDMA, then your experience would be a valuable addition to our growing databank of experiences like this.

How many new users tried the product? How many people all together?

A reagent test can still be easily fooled. The best way to fully understand your particular situation would be to send a sample off to a lab. I am personally very curious about this. I have had similar experiences where there is no euphoria for anyone (experienced and new users alike). It is bizarre.

Did anyone experience jaw tension/grinding, eye wiggles, or notice eye dilation?
 
No jaw tension or any of the above. It’s been 3 people same first timers any same effect just awake all night. I will look into sending sample
 
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