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Brokendo11

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Hi. Long time chronic pain sufferer. I've recently been on perc 7.5 3x's a day (but I took a lot more than that to even be able to function) cold turkied myself because I was hopeful I was ready to be opiate free. I was wrong AF. My pain doc isn't doing jack for me. (unless you count fucking robaxin "something") I don't want to be on opiates, but my pain isn't managable right now. Gonna go get a second opinion from a different pain doc (mine is more of an anesthesia specialist) I don't want to do perc again because the WD were nasty. Tabs just make me pissy. I've got bulged discs that are the root of my pain. Would I be stretching to ask for an opiate type patch? Would new doc think I was DS? Idk what to do. This shit is pushing me into a dark place, and I really don't want to fall into that pit. Any advice is appreciated. TIA.
 
This may sound dumb, but have you tried the non-drug related options? PT, injection therapy, epidurals, facet joint injections, etc? there are a lot of people who function with spinal issues who get relief from this method.
 
Hi. Long time chronic pain sufferer. I've recently been on perc 7.5 3x's a day (but I took a lot more than that to even be able to function) cold turkied myself because I was hopeful I was ready to be opiate free. I was wrong AF. My pain doc isn't doing jack for me. (unless you count fucking robaxin "something") I don't want to be on opiates, but my pain isn't managable right now. Gonna go get a second opinion from a different pain doc (mine is more of an anesthesia specialist) I don't want to do perc again because the WD were nasty. Tabs just make me pissy. I've got bulged discs that are the root of my pain. Would I be stretching to ask for an opiate type patch? Would new doc think I was DS? Idk what to do. This shit is pushing me into a dark place, and I really don't want to fall into that pit. Any advice is appreciated. TIA.

Most widely prescribed patch is the Fentanyl patch. Prescribed for severe nonstop pain in which cases of prescribing other opiates has failed. Normally prescribed to people on much higher doses of oxy than you. Take it from me, you dont want the patch.

Less euphoria, more dangerous (gel could leak out. Way more sedating) and the withdrawal is also horrible. There are tons of meds between 7.5mg percocet and fentanyl that can be discussed with your doctor.
 
This may sound dumb, but have you tried the non-drug related options? PT, injection therapy, epidurals, facet joint injections, etc? there are a lot of people who function with spinal issues who get relief from this method.
Yes I've tried All of these. As well as decompression therapy, and acupuncture.
 
Most widely prescribed patch is the Fentanyl patch. Prescribed for severe nonstop pain in which cases of prescribing other opiates has failed. Normally prescribed to people on much higher doses of oxy than you. Take it from me, you dont want the patch.

Less euphoria, more dangerous (gel could leak out. Way more sedating) and the withdrawal is also horrible. There are tons of meds between 7.5mg percocet and fentanyl that can be discussed with your doctor.
What are others then, aside from what I've been on?
 
"Decompression therapy" is quackery. No legit MD would prescribe it (but chiropractors and osteopathic physicians, which aren't real medical doctors, might).

If you want a non-opioid for pain relief I would look into maybe kratom or a strong NSAID like diclofenac. Muscle relaxants like cyclobenzaprine and soma (I forget its chemical name) are also good bets for non-opioid pain relief.

I too have a fully ruptured L5 disc, but my doctor is an unsympathetic 'fraidy cat too so I have to go to the black market for pain relief.

The DEA has done a thorough job of making doctors hesitant to prescribe opioids and it really messes things up for ppl like us.

If you're looking for an opioid that's a step below Percocet then hydrocodone or codeine are probably your best bet.
 
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There are bupenorphine patch's for pain management in micro doses formulas. It could really help with your pain.
 
Hate to hear of your troubles. I was diagnosed with a severely ruptured disc at C5-6 about 10 years ago. Didn't want to take the chance and get fused so I just waited it out. Fortunately, today, I have most of my range of movement and the pain is only really bad on occasion. That said -I echo the sentiments of others here who say you won't find a whole lot of sympathy from the healthcare community as they are not in the business of long-term narcs for conditions they suggest either surgery or physical therapy for. I know the severe pain well, and what it's like feeling you can't escape it. That sort of nerve pain requires high dose narcs to quell, IMO. I guess some have been lucky enough (or not, perhaps) in finding pain doctors willing to go down that path but they are the exception. Hope things get better for you.
 
Most widely prescribed patch is the Fentanyl patch. Prescribed for severe nonstop pain in which cases of prescribing other opiates has failed. Normally prescribed to people on much higher doses of oxy than you. Take it from me, you dont want the patch.

Less euphoria, more dangerous (gel could leak out. Way more sedating) and the withdrawal is also horrible. There are tons of meds between 7.5mg percocet and fentanyl that can be discussed with your doctor.



most patches dont contain gel anymore unfortunatly but dude 100% on everything especially the wds make me decide to take a step back. not to mention countless near ods 1 almost killing me from oxygen deprivation from too much heat and benzos. Op please try EVERY OTHER OPIATE before fentanyl you do not want a habit even if your not in it for the euphoria (some get it some dont, i did) the withdrawals from my sometimes 9-10MG a day habit made my previous 200mg + a day oxy habit look like a common cold. its a mind rape. id up the oxys
 
Most widely prescribed patch is the Fentanyl patch. Prescribed for severe nonstop pain in which cases of prescribing other opiates has failed. Normally prescribed to people on much higher doses of oxy than you. Take it from me, you dont want the patch.

Less euphoria, more dangerous (gel could leak out. Way more sedating) and the withdrawal is also horrible. There are tons of meds between 7.5mg percocet and fentanyl that can be discussed with your doctor.

Fentanyl is a very effective and strong opiate. It will get you addicted severely if you don't follow medical instructions precisely. But they are excellent for analgesia. You'll be glad the pain is over.

I've used it for a long time after going through a tough surgery and as I said above, if you let your doctor take care of the doses you'll be fine. I wasn't though..but not because of Fentanyl.
 
Tramadol is an option for pain relief, and if used as needed, in lower doses, can provide decent relief without as severe of withdrawal (there is still withdrawal, and some say it's worse, but at low doses it is much less harmful and can provide a little anti-depressant boost). I however would look into trials or treatments offering mesenchymal stem cells, bone marrow concentrate, or similar regenerative methods. They are more robust than ESIs (epidural steroid injections, or facet injections of the same product) and use physiological mechanisms to decrease swelling and heal tissue. They are still relatively new, but you could enroll in the MESOBLAST phase III trial for free (I am a researcher, currently studying biology, biochemistry and clinical translation of stem cell therapies, specifically with emphasis on spine conditions, especially bulging, ruptured and degenerative discs). Surgical options may offer relief, but are expensive and require long recovery periods, and typically implants or fusion devices with a shelf-life - meaning they eventually need to be replaced in another surgery. Conservative measures like structured exercise therapy are also very useful.

The main thing needed to know about the recommendation for treatment is whether the pain is mainly in your back, or radiculopathy symptoms in your legs and feet. Surgery is very effective for radiculopathies, but much less so for axial back pain (pain centered near the spine throughout the axial plane in your back). Axial back pain responds very well to certain regenerative injections (Mesenchymal stem cells, bone marrow concentrate). The worst case scenario with these new treatments is you don't respond very well. There are few documented serious adverse events with these treatments (trust me, I search daily through EMBASE, The Cochrane Library, PUBMED etc. and I have also Co-authored a number of papers on the subject)
 
Can't take NSAIDs I have stomach ulcers. I've had no luck with muscle relaxers. Hydrocodone makes me BSC. Maybe I just need to up the dose of the percs. I am warry because I know the addiction factor is a giant possibility. WD this go round were my fault because I just said, "fuck it" and flushed. I know it's a better idea to wean off, I'm just pissed that after 6 months, the only relief I was seeing was that very first pull in the am. Probably only worked bc it was .the only thing I'd had after all night tossing and turning.
 
I just looked it up and nucynta (tapentadol) doesn't seem like a bad choice. It's a mu-opioid agonist similar to but stronger than tramadol (which is jank IMO for pain relief or recreational value).

I'm not clear on whether you're looking for something stronger, weaker, or non-opioid (sorry if I missed it in your OP) but if you're going for a step down from percs, nucynta doesn't seem like a bad choice.
 
I am doing my best to stay away from the opioid family. Just started cymbalta. Idk how far it will get me pain relief Wise. Going to also try more physical therapy. And have an injection scheduled. But in the mean time, my pain is NOT manageable. I'm probably going to have and ask for another appointment to discuss options in the opioid family. It would probably have to be something stronger, bc the perc 7.5 I was on, was only effective first thing in the am.
 
New doc put me on cymbalta. Any experience with it? Sounds like just another fucking anti depressant that may make me not want to get down with my husband. Fuck.
 
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