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My delicious Ayahuasca Recipe!

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delsymfan

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So recently I ordered 25g's of B. Caapi and P. Viridis. Having the day to myself I opted to start cooking, and save the brew for a later night this week.

I cant say yet for sure if this brew method gives you a great trip, we havent consumed it yet.

But the one thing I can say is my brew is actually tasty. Most people claim their Aya tastes horrible. However I managed to create a pretty good one.

I put about 2/5 a gallon of Distilled H20 in "Pot A" with the plant material.

Then I added about 1/4 of a gallon of Grapefruit Juice. I then added a few oz's of Lemon Juice.

GFJ has a PH of 3 which helps lower the PH so you can get the goods out of the tea.

Brewed for about 45 minutes, simmering heat so that steam was coming off.

Poured the mix into "Pot B"

Kept the plants in Pot A, and did it again. This time using 1/4 a gallon of Water, and probably another 1/4 gallon of GFJ. Also some more Lemon Juice. I wanted to increase the acidity as I went.

While simmering down Pot A v2, I put Pot B on simmer also to concentrate it.

After another 45 minutes I put Pot A v2 into B.

Repeated this step one more time so that 3 brews were in Pot B.

Simmered it down to about a coffee cup's worth of aya.

I took a sample sip as I went and honestly it was pretty good. Bitter at first, but the juice comes through good and made it very palatable.

I'll be sure to update with how this goes. But I wanted to let you all know my method, in case you are finding it to taste like crap.
 

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thanks for sharing, interesting recipe. Be sure to let us know how your venture turns out(maybe even write a trip report)!
 

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Seconded! I've been thinking about making my own for a while now, so I would love to hear how it turns out for you, may just try it myself :]
 

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Did you use the full 25 grams? If you managed something that doesn't taste like you wish you had no tongue, that's pretty amazing. I'm waiting until I have my own full kitchen before attempting a brew of this nature.
 

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Hm could be interesting indeed although tbh I don't see what's that special about it - is it the amount of citrus juice that would mask the flavor?

I always just chug the aya, lick some salt and bite in a lemon slice.

OK I lied.
 

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Good news. It was tasty.

Bad news. It didnt work.

I believe I didnt use enough acid and too much water in the first brew. I had more water than GFJ and LJ and I believe my PH did not go low enough. I did use ALL of the material I had though.

I fasted for 24 hours prior to ingestion. I ate nothing but water and some organic fresh juice all day yesterday. Then I drank around 12:30. By 2 Am I felt nothing still.


I plan on retrying this, but instead with more P. Viridis and Syrian Rue. I want to swallow the S.Rue before drinking the DMTea.

I will say however that with GFJ having a PH of 3, you probably just need to make it the majority of the liquid. Even at 50/50 GFJ and Distilled water your PH only goes to 5. I should have realized this because they recommend you get closer to 4 for brewing. Next time we shall add more LJ and GFJ and lower the water.

It really did taste good. However the grit at the bottom does not sit well. If you spent more effort on filtering that out you would have no problem putting my blend down.
 

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coulda told you it wouldnt work...but i wasnt sure. it sounds like you boiled all the goodies out of the brew...
 

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Dont quite get what you are saying dude. Nothing was boiled. You have to simmer it down to concentrate it. I aint chuggin half a gallon of the stuff.

Everything I've read thusfar says you simmer it to get all the stuff down to a cup or so.

Enlighten me please.
 

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dmt vaporizes at 60-80 degrees C

water "simmers" at 100 degrees C

to "simmer" that much liquid to a single cup would take a while im guessing. enough time to vaporize anything that vaporizes under 100 degreese

and it not working would obviously prove that. unless of course some harmala alkaloids and a healthy dose of dmt is hiding somewhere in your digestive track.
 

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If you want to make ayahuasca, it's best to use whole pieces
of Banisteriopsis caapi vine, (cielo/yellow or red is best,
white caapi is harder to work with, and IMHO less suited for
beginners).

As a kind of standard start-off usually 30 g caapi and 30g chacruna (P.v.)
are advised. If you have enough plant material, I would make a brew
with 50 g caapi and 50 g chacruna, even if the extraction turns out a bit
ineffective or the plants are not so strong, you should get a reasonable brew,
and you don't have to drink it all if it turns out to be strong, but save
some for a next time.

Do your brewing with respect and attention,
create a harmonious environment while you are working
with the plants, if you feel comfortable with it, you can
sing or whistle to the (spirits of) the plants you're working
with, in this way, you tune yourself to the medicine,
and tune the medicine to yourself and your purposes/intentions.

Tips for brewing with caapi: if you can always get whole
pieces of caapi vine, pre-shredded or powdered seems to
decrease in power faster, and when it's finely powdered
you'll get a lot of sediment in your brew that is difficult
to filter out, it makes filtering material clog, and
can cause more than necessary nausea. Let caapi pieces
soak in water for 24-48 hours, after that they are
easy to break up and tear to thin strips. You can use
the soaking water in the brew, if you'll check it with
black light, you'd see it has become highly fluorescent
just from soaking pieces of vine in it.

Caapi also hardly needs any acidifying of the water,
one or 2 ml of lemon or lime juice on 100 ml water
is plenty actually, you don't want a brew that, after
concentration tastes sour. A really good caapi brew
can actually taste quite sweet next to the bitterness,
but to brew ayahuasca in such a way that it tastes
sweet (honey quality ayahuasca) takes a couple of
years of ayahuasca apprenticeship and plenty brewing
experience, and it probably also has to do with the
icaros one sings and an element of prayer (Some will
discard the last two as magical thinking and/or
superstition).

Traditionally, the usual procedure is to boil everything together,
or start with a vessel with caapi and water, and add
the chacruna for the last hour or so, before the plant material is removed and
the brew is concentrated by evaporating off much of the water.
I find that the concentration and taste of the brew is good if 1 cc of
resulting brew contains the extract of 1 g of ayahuasca vine.

My working recipe is slightly different every time,
but basically 30-60 g Banisteriopsis caapi per person,
Diplopterys cabrerana (chagropanga/chaliponga) 15-18 g p/p,
or Psychoyria Viridis (chacruna) 25-40 g p/p, or a combination
of these two leaf admixtures.

Usually I also add some plants that are not specifically psycho-
active, like pao d'arco/lapacho, una de gato/cat's claw and
chuchuashi, sometimes one or two locally growing herbs like
for instance some fresh chamomille flowers.

Sometimes some huayuasa leaves and/or some mate de coca,
and usually a small strip of ceremonial mapacho tobacco
leaf, ca 1-2 square cm p/p (I estimate 50-100 mg of plant material
per person. Be very very carefull, nicotine is a deadly poison
and tobacco, when used at all, should be used with great respect
and care). Blowing smoke from a good cigar, or from a pipe with
ceremonial tobacco over the surface of the brew for protection
and to connect it with the spirit of the tobacco, which is
thought to 'awaken' and 'feed' the spirits of the other plants,
and to help in opening and closing of rituals, is very traditional,
and an idea to consider when you are going to work with these
traditional plants.

Besides the plants you need clean water (no chlorine etc., if tap
water is chlorinated get bottled spring water or distilled water),
and a lemon or lime (or some lemon or lime juice in a bottle),
some pans, a sieve, some cheesecloth or other fabric (T-shirt).
Best is not to use aluminum pans, stainless steel or enamelled pans
are recommended.

The brewing directions I describe are based on traditional slow
extraction methods. Put the caapi liana stem sections in a pan
and add enough water to soak them in. Leave this overnight.
The stems soak up water and become more like fresh stems again.
They get soft, so you can twist and tear the stems into thin strips.
Put these strips of vine in the pan with the water you soaked it
in, and add water untill it's level with the caapi strips.
Add a few drops of lemon or lime juice, a few ml is enough to
slightly acidify the water for improved extraction of the alkaloids.
Bring to a boil in closed pan, adjust temperature/fire so that you
can keep it slightly below the boiling point for 4-8 hours.
If needed add some water. Let it steep and cool overnight.
Strain the next morning and put the resulting liquid on low heat
to evaporate off water. Crumble the Psychotria viridis leaves
and put them in a pan with ca 500 ml water and a few milliliter
of lemon and/or lime juice and bring to boil. Lower heat and leave
steeping below boiling point for one hour. Strain and add
resulting tea to the evaporating caapi brew. Put the plant
materials (B. caapi and Psychotria v.) together in a pan with
circa 1 l water and a few ml of lemon/lime juice, bring to boil
and steep for another 1 or 2 hours, add after straining to
evaporating brew. Allow to evaporate back to 100-200 ml of
ayahuasca drink. Go through the whole process with attention and
a meditative, prayerful attitude, like you are cooking a meal for
a loved one.

Traditionally ayahuasca is almost always taken only at night,
after sunset. The amount one drinks is usually divided into
several (2,3 or 4) rounds, one drinks a cup/glass of ayahuasca
with 30-120 minutes in between. Each glass is slammed down
quickly, don't sip it or taste it too long in your mouth before
swallowing, the taste is very intense and to some people even
very awful. You'll taste the aftertaste strong enough, and it might
be a good idea to make something more neutral tasting as a chaser,
for instance tea with some ginger, mint and/or chamomille,
which will also help keeping nausea to a minimum.

Also take a look at <http://www.the-awakening.net/>
and <http://www.ayahuasca.com/>, especially the forums.

Trust the medicine, follow the medicine through you body
after you swallowed it, you may ask the medicine to give
you visions, but it is up to the medicine in combination with
your own neurochemistry at that time, what you will experience.
One thing that seems pretty constant is, that when the medicine
starts to work, that the feeling of hunger from the longer
or shorter fast before the ceremony vanishes, and that all
senses seem to become more acute and sensitive.
By singing and playing rhythms with simple instruments like
drum, rattle or mouth harp/mouth bow, you can learn to
direct your experience to some extent. According to the
traditional ayahuasceros one can 'channel' melodies, rhythms
and songs (icaros) that are in some way an expression of
the spirit/character of the medicine plants, and transmit
their healing, protective and vision-giving qualities
in an audible form, sung, whistled or 'blow-whistled',
mixed with the vital energy of the breath.

The psychedelic aspect of ayahuasca is merely one aspect
of the diamond of ayahuasca, which is truly a holistic medicine.
 

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Impressive.

I just really want to know exactly which part I erred at.

To the poster that mentioned temperature, how the hell do you plan on explaining how these guys have them over flaming pots and such? That just doesnt seem quite right. And how prytell would one work the brew down to a reasonable amount then?

And PH, well this longer post seems to imply acidity DOESNT matter as much. In which case mine should have had plenty.
 

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yeah, i always heard dmt was heat stable, which it would haveto be if it worked all the times i had it simmering for several hours. never done it with p. viridis, always mimosa hostilis, but let me tell you that stuff tastes terrible. like probably the worst thing i have ever drank. now when i cook it up just the smell makes me feel sick, probably my body remembering the upcoming purge :)

also, to the the poster saying to cook up the dmt and maoi containing plants together, this may be the traditional way but i dont think its the best way. you have to wait till the maois are inaction for the dmt to be able to be digested in the stomach, which may explain why traditionally they take a series of doses, the first mainly to activate the maois. dunno, just a theory.
 

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I've always understood that simmering is fine. Looking this up on the internet I'm not so sure now...

The failure might also be a result of shit ingredients. I've had a caapi-viridis brew fail, whereas a rue-viridis brew using the same viridis worked i.e. probably the caapi sucked.
 

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dmt vaporizes at 60-80 degrees C

water "simmers" at 100 degrees C

to "simmer" that much liquid to a single cup would take a while im guessing. enough time to vaporize anything that vaporizes under 100 degreese

and it not working would obviously prove that. unless of course some harmala alkaloids and a healthy dose of dmt is hiding somewhere in your digestive track.
DMT freebase vaporizes at that temperature, not DMT salts. DMT in an acidic solution ain't going anywhere when you reduce the volume of the solution like that. In fact, this step is pretty universal when it comes to ayahuasca preparation and acid/base extractions.
 

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Cool glad to put the official word down on that...

Yeah I just chalk it up to lack of experience. I mean most reports show people need several tries to get it right. I'd just as soon go to flippin peru and ask a real dude to do it. I'd love to do that actually.
 

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can ayahuasca return my soul to me?
i have lost my soul to indulgence in dangerous substances like lsd, cannabis, mushrooms, and alcohol
i just don't know what to do anymore
i try a small amount of ayahuasca vine but it just set me on fire because i burned a really bad incense before it (palo santo)
and now i feel like i've become a minion of the devil when i was born one of the chosen ones of shiva
what do i do?
 

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Allow yourself time to heal from the substance abuse. Your body and mind will return to normalcy. And try not to truly believe that your soul is gone and you're a minion of the devil. This is not true and the mind is a powerful thing... if you believe something strongly enough it becomes true to you.
 
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