DickMcWickland
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Hey all,
Recently posted a thread about the counterproductive fear and hesitance to tackle opiate withdrawals early on. I know early on in my opiate days, I began maintaining every day use for the sole purpose of avoiding withdrawal symptoms from a month-long binge. I likely wouldn't have developed a serious physical dependency for months, had I just gone on blissfully unaware of the wealth of online threads building up withdrawals from short-term, low dose use as "hell". So I ran from a "disease" I hadn't yet contracted because what had always been good preparation (online research) became a total mind-fuck. Once I figured out the symptoms of cessation were completely bearable, if not quite unpleasant, I'd already strung together 8 months or so of daily IV use, and something in my brain had just changed. I began pawning and scheming, as rationalizing my next fix became an all too powerful compulsion, rooted too deep in my brain to ignore. So again, any short-term users reading this must understand: get out while you can, and I promise, you can. You will know hell if you keep going. Don't fixate on the physical symptoms and embrace them for three or four days with the knowledge it'll be the last time.
With 3.5 mg bupe as my only withdrawal aid, I am now on hour 96 since my last heroin use (1 g high quality ECP IV/day for ~2 years) and as you can imagine, I don't feel good. I felt the best strategy given my laughable quantity of bupe as compared to my relatively large habit would be to wait as long as humanly possible before IVing as little bupe as possible to not feel horrible. I managed to hold out 42 hours before IVing my first 1 mg of sub. I didn't feel as good as I thought I might, especially given how long I waited and how much room for improvement had already appreciated as I reached the peak of the withdrawal. I felt the dose really wearing off quickly and realized why IV was in fact possibly less effective overall than SL. Despite the increased BV, the meds were holding me about half as long. Still, I made it to hour 72 with only 2mg total IV bupe. From hour 72 until hour 96 now, I have used another 1 mg in two separate shots. I plan to use my final .5 mg in 2 .25 mg shots to carry me through hour 120, at which point I will be out of bupe, but five days away from dope, two of them completely CT and the rest with only 3.5 mg bupe. My question is, should I anticipate serious crash and, if so, how should I best handle it to ensure I remain functional.
I'm currently taking omega-3, 5-htp, turmeric, vitamin C, multivitamins, NAC, test booster, chlorophyll, and protein shakes, and also eating a lot of admittedly unhealthy whole foods as well because of the weed. I have a prescription for Wellbutrin/Bupropion 100 mg twice daily -- should I start taking that tomorrow after all the bupe is gone? As you can tell, I'm no amateur here but I've also never gone this long clean before without a much larger dose of bupe. Even then, it was a vacation and I was on dope within an hour of landing back home. So yeah, I've never made it through to the other side so to speak. That said, please, someone, anyone who has come out on the other side of this thing, what do the next few days hold in store for me? Should I maybe use my final .5 mg SL with alcohol instead of two or three IV doses and hope the long half life carries me through to day six or so? I have to assume that dropping off the bupe at such a low dose after five or six full days away from dope will leave me relatively unscathed (physically speaking; not counting the fact that my world has been devastated by dope and I'm already on the verge of having nothing and no one left). Any other tips/tricks for transitioning back to normal society and being able to get out of bed in the morning and do things like a normal person? It's just been so long, and I wan't to make the most of the opportunity I've finally afforded myself these last few days.
To sum it up -- four days clean of dope, two days cold turkey and the last two with a total of 3mg IV bupe. I've felt maybe 80% better than full WD this whole time since taking the bupe, but still been pretty cold, achy, and anxious. I have .5 mg left and I'm hoping to feel better every day out from here, not worse. Is that viable? If not, what is a logical scenario and how best can I acclimate to that scenario with the supplements listed above?
Recently posted a thread about the counterproductive fear and hesitance to tackle opiate withdrawals early on. I know early on in my opiate days, I began maintaining every day use for the sole purpose of avoiding withdrawal symptoms from a month-long binge. I likely wouldn't have developed a serious physical dependency for months, had I just gone on blissfully unaware of the wealth of online threads building up withdrawals from short-term, low dose use as "hell". So I ran from a "disease" I hadn't yet contracted because what had always been good preparation (online research) became a total mind-fuck. Once I figured out the symptoms of cessation were completely bearable, if not quite unpleasant, I'd already strung together 8 months or so of daily IV use, and something in my brain had just changed. I began pawning and scheming, as rationalizing my next fix became an all too powerful compulsion, rooted too deep in my brain to ignore. So again, any short-term users reading this must understand: get out while you can, and I promise, you can. You will know hell if you keep going. Don't fixate on the physical symptoms and embrace them for three or four days with the knowledge it'll be the last time.
With 3.5 mg bupe as my only withdrawal aid, I am now on hour 96 since my last heroin use (1 g high quality ECP IV/day for ~2 years) and as you can imagine, I don't feel good. I felt the best strategy given my laughable quantity of bupe as compared to my relatively large habit would be to wait as long as humanly possible before IVing as little bupe as possible to not feel horrible. I managed to hold out 42 hours before IVing my first 1 mg of sub. I didn't feel as good as I thought I might, especially given how long I waited and how much room for improvement had already appreciated as I reached the peak of the withdrawal. I felt the dose really wearing off quickly and realized why IV was in fact possibly less effective overall than SL. Despite the increased BV, the meds were holding me about half as long. Still, I made it to hour 72 with only 2mg total IV bupe. From hour 72 until hour 96 now, I have used another 1 mg in two separate shots. I plan to use my final .5 mg in 2 .25 mg shots to carry me through hour 120, at which point I will be out of bupe, but five days away from dope, two of them completely CT and the rest with only 3.5 mg bupe. My question is, should I anticipate serious crash and, if so, how should I best handle it to ensure I remain functional.
I'm currently taking omega-3, 5-htp, turmeric, vitamin C, multivitamins, NAC, test booster, chlorophyll, and protein shakes, and also eating a lot of admittedly unhealthy whole foods as well because of the weed. I have a prescription for Wellbutrin/Bupropion 100 mg twice daily -- should I start taking that tomorrow after all the bupe is gone? As you can tell, I'm no amateur here but I've also never gone this long clean before without a much larger dose of bupe. Even then, it was a vacation and I was on dope within an hour of landing back home. So yeah, I've never made it through to the other side so to speak. That said, please, someone, anyone who has come out on the other side of this thing, what do the next few days hold in store for me? Should I maybe use my final .5 mg SL with alcohol instead of two or three IV doses and hope the long half life carries me through to day six or so? I have to assume that dropping off the bupe at such a low dose after five or six full days away from dope will leave me relatively unscathed (physically speaking; not counting the fact that my world has been devastated by dope and I'm already on the verge of having nothing and no one left). Any other tips/tricks for transitioning back to normal society and being able to get out of bed in the morning and do things like a normal person? It's just been so long, and I wan't to make the most of the opportunity I've finally afforded myself these last few days.
To sum it up -- four days clean of dope, two days cold turkey and the last two with a total of 3mg IV bupe. I've felt maybe 80% better than full WD this whole time since taking the bupe, but still been pretty cold, achy, and anxious. I have .5 mg left and I'm hoping to feel better every day out from here, not worse. Is that viable? If not, what is a logical scenario and how best can I acclimate to that scenario with the supplements listed above?
